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It says, that in April 1943 there was "introduced BR-354P round into ammo load" (3,05 kg, 950 m/s, penetration 100 mm at 500 m). However, Russian Wikipedia https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/76-%D0...%D0%98%D0%A1-3) claims, that there was a cartridge UBR-354P (53-УБР-354П), while its round designation was BR-350P (53-БР-350П). Other sources however name the round BR-354P http://www.russianarms.ru/forum/index.php?topic=12611.0 . There is also an information in Wikipedia, that it was "commissioned" in April 1943. Unfortunately, I don't know when they got to front. Possibly the round was accepted in April 1943, and then started limited deliveries... On this forum somebody claims, that BR-350P wasn't produced (it was developed for all 76 mm guns including short ones) and was replaced with more spacialized BR-354P http://www.vif2ne.org/nvk/forum/arhprint/112545 There is a discussion if BR-354P were available at Kursk, basing on information, that it was introduced to T-34 in 10/43, but there are no conclusions. https://trizna.ru/forum/topic/25722-...4%D0%B8%D0%B9/ |
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I'm afraid there is no clear evidence, that they were available at Kursk... Surely they weren't significant then.
Here somebody claims, that they got to T-34 crews and AT artillery by May, initially in numbers no more than 3. https://reibert.info/threads/broniro...arjady.256855/ |
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I'm going to go with October '43. No matter what date I pick there will be disputes but for absolute certain, they were not in use 1942 and yes maybe some trickled to the front in time for Kursk but adding units in just to give them a couple of rounds is a waste of time and I would suggest even *if* they were available then the most likely units to be issued something that scarce and specialized would be AT guns or Tank destroyers.
Thanks for digging around for info. I am well aware of how difficult some of this is to sift through This http://ww2data.blogspot.com/2015/07/...e-76mm_27.html gives just about every detail including packaging but no dates but it would seem that for sure by the fall of 1943 there were enough to go around. I have also adjusted slightly their pen and sabot range to better represent their capability. What we had made them a wee bit too powerful at short range and not enough at their max range and their max was a bit on the short side but checking back that sabot range goes back to the very beginning. As Andy pointed out to me having sabot rounds changes nothing in dealing with more common the Pz III and PzIV |
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Two great articles about Winter camouflage in Soviet Red Army with original soviet schematics how apply witer camo on various equipment
Tanks and vehicles https://warspot.net/349-red-army-s-white-tanks Guns winter and summer camo (soviet guns wasn't in grey metal colour) https://warspot.net/351-hide-your-guns |
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I "added" a new green for next release. It replaces one rarely used that has mininmal impact on pre-existing games / scenarios etc that is good for simulating worn Winter camo as shown in that example
Shown here as 3 https://forum.shrapnelgames.com/atta...1&d=1645196016 1 and 2 already exist in the game and it is a Series of 10 shades of grey-green https://forum.shrapnelgames.com/atta...1&d=1645196154 https://forum.shrapnelgames.com/atta...1&d=1645196253 |
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Great idea with this worn-out green number 3
ISU-152 looks like model vehicle in article :) |
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The lightest version of the new green when washed over a whitewashed vehicle will replace the darker greys with light green but when viewed in the game shows up as a white vehicle with a hint of green and because it is created from a grey green it blends better with shades of grey than the other two greens in the game
It has other uses as well https://forum.shrapnelgames.com/atta...1&d=1645216164 The three greens together with their variations. The new green looks grey compared to the other greens but not when compared to an actual greyscale grey as shown in this revision https://forum.shrapnelgames.com/atta...1&d=1645302813 |
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An upside or downside depending on your POV is that the new greens do not affect winter or desert maps at all and are not noticeable on a "full bright" map
https://forum.shrapnelgames.com/atta...1&d=1645276755 they do show up on "northern" grass slopes in a "dark" map https://forum.shrapnelgames.com/atta...1&d=1645276793 At first I was on the fence about it but it looks perfectly normal to me now and does define the slope better than before https://forum.shrapnelgames.com/atta...1&d=1645277156 and some of the trees look more like they are in full moonlight now on a dark map..... no change when the map is bright https://forum.shrapnelgames.com/atta...1&d=1645303019 |
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