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PBW is one of the few sites that I actively send cash too. I will continue to do so for as long as I am able. Keep up the good work Guys. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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Hmm seems the gist of this thread has gone from 'payement will kill PBW' to 'let's put in a payment scheme'. So which is it? Hopefully PBW can survive on donations. If Geo could knock on every ones door and ask them for 5 bucks he'd probably get it. But asking them to type in a Visa number to a website or write a cheque some people will balk. Heck some players may not have Visa cards or a checking account. Now it there were some way to convince people to donate.....

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if people dont have a credit card or a checking acount, 1) they are living in some sort of whacked walden-pond-esque denial of the modern world, and 2) how are they connecting to the internet? whisteling into the phone? hell, you will have a serious project paying for a phone line, most places, without either a checkbook or pLastic.

i dont think that the gist of the thread has become pay for PBW. i think the general concensus is to go with the 'pay to not see ads on PBW' plan, and possibly run occasional fund-raisers.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I haven't heard of anyone who would want to pay a phone line with credit card or a check in Finland. We pay most of our bills with account transfers. IIRC I haven't even seen a checkbook in other place than tv. In most of the finnish web stores you can't pay with credit card. Credit cards are mostly used is real shops.

Re: PBW Needs you!
 

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Heh. Well, you see, Finland is a bit more advanced thant he rest of the world in this respect. The Finnish also have >1 cell phone/citizen. Including children. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

It's fiscally unfeasible for us to accept check via web (EFTs) because of the high processing costs. HOWEVER: Paypal *does* accept EFTs, not just credit card payments.

Problem solved. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Eric/LL

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Very good indeed. You almost had me voting for you save that I remembered that if you got elected, you would be going round kissing babies, judging at beauty queen pageants and opening breweries and I just dont feel like giving you that much fun! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

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I'm fairly new to PBW gaming, however, since I've been playing I really enjoy it. Where else can you play against other human players other then in Hot Seat. PBW is worth whatever it takes to keep it up and running.

The question becomes do we (the members) want to keep it or take the chance of it going down the tubes because of funding. That I believe is the bottom line. Everything today cost something, someone has to pay the bills, PBW is gracious to let us play for free, however, it still costs money to run. Therefore, I'm not against paying for use, the problem is for those who really can't afford it,(yes there are some), so this needs to be taken into consideration as well. It wouldn't be fair to lose players because they couldn't afford a payment. In addition, as PBW grows, cost goes up to maintain.

Just my 2 cents worth Mac

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DavidG, Puke is right on with his Last post, I just want to reiterate that PBW will remain free to play. We may however go with some ads to generate a little extra revenue and take the load off those that can't donate. If you are one that hates seeing banner ads on webpages you visit however you will be given an option to turn them off for you by making a small donation, like 5 bucks a year. This way those that can and wish to donate can still do so, either by paypal or by check. And those that can't contribute directly can still help PBW raise money by looking at a few banners while you navigate the website. Actually you don't have to look at them, you can ignore them like you probably do banners on every other website. But by viewing the page the banner is on in a small way you will be doing your part to help PBW pay it's expenses. (I should really run of some kind of political office. I make banners sound like a good thing. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif )

Geo

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Bump http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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...bump...

I think it needed it!

[ September 23, 2002, 05:52: Message edited by: Gandalph ]