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Originally posted by jimbob:
I think that the complaints are best kept private, and dealt with outside of the general forum. Please, I've seen a lot of forums die in the past - going back to the old BBS days in the late 80s especially - when private disputes are aired in the general forum. I just hope the SEIV community doesn't go down that road is all.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">In general I agree, but if the disputes are brought up as reason not to release soemthing ... the person bringing them up should be prepared to define and describe them.

Or, as I suggested, the issue should hever have been raised to begin with.

Okay, okay, enough of that stupid bickering. Let's just wait untill Hadrian is allowed to bring out the mod. I really can't wait.

Ummmm, nobody is bickering. And the whole conversation is about whether or not hadrian is going to bring out the mod or not....

Someone start a petition or a bake sale! I want to play that mod! the first mod was great!

[ May 24, 2003, 23:31: Message edited by: General Talashar ]

I revered to Pax talking about "If Hadrian should talk about his complaints or should shut up about them."
I got a bit tireds of that. Hadrian should dicide for himself wether or not he wants to talk about them or not. I didn't mean to attack someone.

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Originally posted by Timstone:
I revered to Pax talking about "If Hadrian should talk about his complaints or should shut up about them."
I got a bit tireds of that. Hadrian should dicide for himself wether or not he wants to talk about them or not. I didn't mean to attack someone.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Just to clarify -- my position is, if a person (in this case Hadrian) is unwilling to describe 'complaints' and so on, then, those 'complaints' should never be brought up in the first place. That's all. 8) It's not an attampt to cast aspersions on Hadrian (I've no reason to), just observing that it's ... shall we say, "bad form" ... to bring up "I have X problem with the community, and it's part of why I'm not doing Y" ... and then refuse to give details on what "x problem with the community" is.

FWIW, if the "sales model" of $5 or $10 to get a full copy of UM2 is needed to keep SE.org running, I personally can't blame Hadrian for at least considering it. From the sizes he's quoted, UM2 is godawfully frikkin' HUGE. That means a LOT of work went into it; it might just be WORTH $5 or $10. Consider it an XPac, not a mod, if that helps you with the idea of buying it ...

Maybe he doesn't want to divide the community or make mountains out of molehills? I mean, why dig into the man's affairs.

[ May 24, 2003, 23:30: Message edited by: General Talashar ]

Pax: Okay, I understand now about the complaints stuff you brought up. I see your position in it. I don't agree, but I see what you mean.
And about the possible price tag, I'm willing to pay for it. I also stated that some time ago.