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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">All I want to know is if you just want to play Civ 3: Play the World in solo mode, is it worth the price to get the new tribes and the couple of new stuff they included? I heard it's not good for multi-play, which doesn't make sense, since it was advertised for multi-players. But since I don't do multi-play, I just need to know about the solo play mode.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Any luck?

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After my post got embarrasingly lost...

Big disappointments (No rankings, just titles as I recall them.)

1. Patriot - incomplete
2. Superpower - buggy
3. Civ III
4. Call to Power I
5. Hearts of Iron – buggy as hell, true greatness was fumbled
6. Creatures I, II & III – too cute, my kids drive me nuts with it
7. Battlcruiser 3000
8. Imperium (the only attempt at a 3D galaxy I’ve seen)
9. Age of Empires (don’t like RTS arcades; too fast; no pause for orders)
10. SM’s Alpha Centauri - aweful graphics, absurdly unintuitive tech tree. Graphics usually do not matter to me, but I found these offputting to the point of making the game unpleasant.

Games I liked right out of the box (Not in order)

1. Conquest of the New World Gold
2. Star Fleet Command
3. Stars! – #1:The best ever MP, outstanding interface
4. Civ 3 PTW add-on w/ patch
5. Civ 2 - Liked it a lot
6. Civ 1
7. The Operational Art of War (all editions)– outstanding, #2 favorite
8. SE IV
9. Dungeonkeeper II – a hilariously engrossing jaunt
10. Tanks!
11. Harpoon
12. Medieval Total War – fun, mixed implementation, good interface
13. Reach for the Stars! (Ancient original edition on Apple II)

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If I can get my new compouter soon, I'd like to know how these following games rate, since I've been wanting to play some of these for years, but couldn't due to hardware requirements:

America
Dungeon Seige
Neverwinter Nights
Microsoft Train Simulator
Trainz
Icewind Dale 2
Civ 3 expansion (can't remember the title)
Rollercoaster Tycoon 2
Any Sims title after the first one

If I do get a new computer, I might not be playing SE4 for awhile due to binging on these other games for awhile.

[ March 05, 2003, 17:51: Message edited by: gregebowman ]

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A lot of games have disappointed me - the marketing hype for most games is "deceiving" at best - so my list would be most of the games I've bought but it's generally safe to say any RTS.

Games that I played for more than 20-30 hrs:

SExx (III, IV, and Gold)
SMAC (& Alien CrossFire - Hey, I liked 'em)
AutoDuel (anyone remeber this??)
Pax Imperia (from my Mac days)

Someday I'll get around to getting some of the others mentioned, but I don't get a whole lot of time to game and it's almost exclusively SEIV...

[ March 05, 2003, 18:17: Message edited by: rdouglass ]

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Disapointments:
1. Metal Gear Solid 2: Seriously, the worst story line in game history, made absolutely no sense, and you didn't even play as Solid Snake, but instead as pansy Raiden!
2. Final Fantasy 8: Seven was a master piece with possibly the best villian in Videogame history. Eight had a crappy story, lame villians, and characters no one could care about.
3. MOO3: Waited like three years for this to come out, and yeah it didn't live up to the hype. Its fun as hell, but still...
4. Farscape: Knew it would suck, but not this much!

Best:
WWE Smackdown: Shut Your Mouth! Say what you will about wrasslin' but this is one of the funest games I have ever played
2. Fallout 1&2: Beat all Final Fantasys except 6 and 7. Make a 3 damnit!

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I would recommend very strongly against Dungeon Siege. This game plays like the developer was just trying to get something out the door *before* Neverwinter Nights. The graphics are amazing. But the gameplay isn't, IMHO. I never even finished this game.

I enjoyed Neverwinter Nights and finished it. My chief complaint with the single player play for NWN is that it just gets so easy about halfway through. Even with max difficulty settings the NPC's and monsters just don't hit you very much even though their damage *is* increased. I have experimented just a very small bit with their toolset for creating new modules and was impressed with it. I think the re-playability of this game *should* be pretty high since it is so easy to create new modules.

If you check out the review of RollerCoaster Tycoon II on Gamespot.com, I think that review is right on target. There are a few enhancements to this game that might make it more appealing to someone who has never played before. But if you played the original and are looking for a successor with loads of new features and better graphics, this isn't it.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">All I want to know is if you just want to play Civ 3: Play the World in solo mode, is it worth the price to get the new tribes and the couple of new stuff they included? I heard it's not good for multi-play, which doesn't make sense, since it was advertised for multi-players. But since I don't do multi-play, I just need to know about the solo play mode.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I wouldn't know. It won't even run on my frikkin' computer!!!

Who in the Nine Hells ever heard of an Xpac that WON'T run on all the O/S's of the BASE program ... ?!? Civ3 (base) will run on Win95 ... WTH won't the xpac ... ?!?

And, yes, I'd be getting it FOR the multiplay. That's where most games' longevity is ... playing against other human beings.

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I won't list the bad games, as their are too many to list, and I prefer not to be too negative, in general.. Here's the goods!

I see a lot people exclaiming their fondness over X-Com, but no-one said anything about JAGGED ALLIANCE 2, or it's prequel.

Fallout 1 and 2, definately.

Viper Racing -- INCREDIBLY good physics, and the only game I've ever played with a truly dynamic damage modelling technique!

Grand Prix Legends -- Hard as hell, but PERFECT physics, AWESOME sense of speed.

European Air Warrior -- Excellently well-rounded gameplay. No flight simulator since has been quite as well-rounded.

Let me throw in another vote for Autoduel. This was one of my all-time Favorites, and if someone doesn't make another game based on the Car Wars series, I will totally freak out. I have a TON of ideas about a game like this, and would LOVE to exercise them!

Combat Mission : Barbarrossa to Berlin -- I can't believe more SEIV players don't know about this game. It's so appealing in similar ways. I LOVE the armor penetration modelling, it makes me ERECT.

Total Annihilation : Similar in some respects to the complexities of SEIV, you could build your empire in HUNDREDS of different ways, and each unit countered another, appropriately. PLUS -- YOU COULD LOB SEVERAL NUKES AT A TIME AT YOUR OPPONENT! WOW!!

--Ed

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">All I want to know is if you just want to play Civ 3: Play the World in solo mode, is it worth the price to get the new tribes and the couple of new stuff they included? I heard it's not good for multi-play, which doesn't make sense, since it was advertised for multi-players. But since I don't do multi-play, I just need to know about the solo play mode.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I wouldn't know. It won't even run on my frikkin' computer!!!

Who in the Nine Hells ever heard of an Xpac that WON'T run on all the O/S's of the BASE program ... ?!? Civ3 (base) will run on Win95 ... WTH won't the xpac ... ?!?

And, yes, I'd be getting it FOR the multiplay. That's where most games' longevity is ... playing against other human beings.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I know. I was so disappointed when I saw the hardware requirements for that expansion. Heck, that's more than most new games coming out. If you're going to require all that, then make Civ 4. Not require all of that stuff for a "xpac". I've never heard of that either.