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Phoenix-D May 27th, 2003 11:49 PM

Re: SE4 in higher resolutions + OT: floppy disks
 
Hmm... I use lan, or i-red. or cdrw or usb.

bootloader try grub... very nice...

and what is this small pc mounted button you speak of. Don't think I know that one

I'd just use the Windows disc for a boot disc- except for some reason the thing doesn't include the format comand. Very screwy.

The button is the one sticking out of the front of the floppy drive. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

lan, i-whatever, cd-rw and usb all have various issues floppies don't. Mainly, usb and lan only works if you can connect the computers, and CD-RW is again too slow and expensive to bother with for small files.

Fyron May 28th, 2003 12:57 AM

Re: SE4 in higher resolutions + OT: floppy disks
 
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No Fyron, it is a pain to anybody like me who may find themselves in similiar circumstances. But of course, you would never think of asking what those circumstances are. So, you are wrong when you say it is "Only to you." And yes, of course it is impossible to miss...after fumbling about. But if I had a choice 1) wasting time by fumbling about for it and 2) not wasting time at all, I prefer not wasting time.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">This whole rant is completely meaningless. You can not accuse me of ignoring something that you did not bring up. Accusing me of "never think of asking what those circumstances are" is akin to accusing me of never thinking of asking what the price of tea was in Beijing in 1602. As in, it is something of a complete tangential nature to the current discussion that would only ever enter into it if you mentioned it specifically. You never once mentioned anything about special circumstances until this post in which you accuse me of being insensitive, which I have not been in any manner.

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Yes, I have heard of DOS. But maybe you haven't heard that DOS is on the way out. So tell me, what percentage of PC Users do you think are consistently (as opposed to "occasionally") using a DOS floppy to boot their newer computer?
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">You entirely missed my point. Windows evolved from DOS, and up until NT/2000/XP (which are all technically lines of the same OS http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif ), DOS was a heavy part of Windows. This is why floppy disks function as they do in Windows. Also, I specifically alluded to DOS being on the way out in my post, which you seem to have missed.

tbontob May 28th, 2003 01:08 AM

Re: SE4 in higher resolutions + OT: floppy disks
 
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Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">No Fyron, it is a pain to anybody like me who may find themselves in similiar circumstances. But of course, you would never think of asking what those circumstances are. So, you are wrong when you say it is "Only to you." And yes, of course it is impossible to miss...after fumbling about. But if I had a choice 1) wasting time by fumbling about for it and 2) not wasting time at all, I prefer not wasting time.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">This whole rant is completely meaningless. You can not accuse me of ignoring something that you did not bring up. Accusing me of "never think of asking what those circumstances are" is akin to accusing me of never thinking of asking what the price of tea was in Beijing in 1602. As in, it is something of a complete tangential nature to the current discussion that would only ever enter into it if you mentioned it specifically. You never once mentioned anything about special circumstances until this post in which you accuse me of being insensitive, which I have not been in any manner.

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Yes, I have heard of DOS. But maybe you haven't heard that DOS is on the way out. So tell me, what percentage of PC Users do you think are consistently (as opposed to "occasionally") using a DOS floppy to boot their newer computer?
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">You entirely missed my point. Windows evolved from DOS, and up until NT/2000/XP (which are all technically lines of the same OS http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif ), DOS was a heavy part of Windows. This is why floppy disks function as they do in Windows. Also, I specifically alluded to DOS being on the way out in my post, which you seem to have missed.
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I think it is patently obvious that you are the one doing the ranting.

It is also obvious that one wouldn't fumble unless there were special circumstances. But of course, you missed that.

And maybe you can tell me what the price of tea in Beijing in 1602 has to do with this discussion? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

And finally you did not answer my question, "What percentage of PC Users do you think are consistently (as opposed to "occasionally") using a DOS floppy to boot their newer computer?"

tesco samoa May 28th, 2003 01:29 AM

Re: SE4 in higher resolutions + OT: floppy disks
 
The high cost of the tea (over $100 per pound)

Man.

I found it.

http://www.geocities.com/lgol27/HistoryTeaPrint.htm

http://rebeccasreads.com/archives/a_...ts_033003.html

http://countrycoffee.com/tea_facts.htm

Perhaps Tea has played a great role in the development of OS and floppy or floopy
Alan Shugart was a Tea drinker.

[ May 28, 2003, 00:30: Message edited by: tesco samoa ]

tesco samoa May 28th, 2003 01:32 AM

Re: SE4 in higher resolutions + OT: floppy disks
 
wow who ever posted that Last post sure is a nerd!!!!!!

Suicide Junkie May 28th, 2003 01:45 AM

Re: SE4 in higher resolutions + OT: floppy disks
 
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Don't want to get rid of the Recycle Bin. Would just like to have it on the bottom right hand corner like we can with the Mac trashcan.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Have you ever tried dragging the icon down there?

If you've left the automatic spacing on icons, just right click -> arrange icons -> (uncheck) Auto arrange

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The 3/8 inch by 1/8 inch button is big? I would hate to know what your conception of huge is. Again, fumbling around to find that button is a pain.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">If I swipe a hand at the face of my computer case, it is the only thing that sticks out enough to get pressed.
Its a wide as a keyboard key, and your finger has plenty of vertical coverage. If your aim is really bad, just use your thumb. The disk should pop right out into your hand (since your hand is there pushing the button)

Having a physical button to override anything the computer wants to do helps too.
"Oopsie, did I just press 'delete all'?"
*Smack* *pop*
*grind grind grind*
*grind grind grind*
"Error: Can't delete files!"

[ May 27, 2003, 12:50: Message edited by: Suicide Junkie ]

narf poit chez BOOM May 28th, 2003 09:10 AM

Re: SE4 in higher resolutions + OT: floppy disks
 
your arguing about a floppy disk button!
think about it.

Fyron May 28th, 2003 09:33 AM

Re: SE4 in higher resolutions + OT: floppy disks
 
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Originally posted by tesco samoa:
wow who ever posted that Last post sure is a nerd!!!!!!
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I'd say! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

tbontob:
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I think it is patently obvious that you are the one doing the ranting.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Whatever. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif

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It is also obvious that one wouldn't fumble unless there were special circumstances. But of course, you missed that.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Please reread my Last post. That was covered in it in no uncertain terms.

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And maybe you can tell me what the price of tea in Beijing in 1602 has to do with this discussion?
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Please reread my Last post. It is explained in there.

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And finally you did not answer my question, "What percentage of PC Users do you think are consistently (as opposed to "occasionally") using a DOS floppy to boot their newer computer?"
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Your question is irrelevant, especially given the contents of my Last post. You are thinking I was arguing that floppies are widely used for normal booting procedures, which I most certainly was not. I was merely explaining why Windows does not eject floppies upon shutting down. I was clear in my Posts about this.

dogscoff May 28th, 2003 10:32 AM

Re: SE4 in higher resolutions + OT: floppy disks
 
These days I use a 64meg USB slug for all my small-medium file transfers. Floppies are handy for (very) small files when I come across a pc that can't handle USB (ie win95, most win98) and if LAN/internet is unavailable then I whip out the trusty old serial cable and fire up hyperterminal for files over 1.44 meg.

Floppy disks are still good as throwing stars though, and the rabbit enjoys nibbling on them.

Of course, imho all operating systems should be modelled on amigados and all floppy drives should go "GRR-RR-RRR... Gronk, gronk gronk" like my old A500 used to. Ah, those were the days, directories called "directories" and not "folders", and with a proper "/" in your directory paths too, not a stupid MS "\". playing Llamatron and Alien Breed until the wee hours, editting startup-sequences in Memacs, saving .iff files from deluxe paint and .mods from octamed. Small children playing football in the park, jumpers for goalPosts...

*dogscoff drifts off nostalgically, gronking quietly to himself...

[ May 28, 2003, 09:39: Message edited by: dogscoff ]

Fyron May 28th, 2003 10:35 AM

Re: SE4 in higher resolutions + OT: floppy disks
 
What is wrong with MS differentiating between local directories and non-local directories by using both slashes? Seems like a good innovation to me...


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