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Slynky, did you get my email to add KOTH Grandpakim vs Parabolize? I don't see it listed...
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For some reason, when you go to this site, you need to refresh the page to pick up changes. Try that. |
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Yup! That did the trick.
You'd mentioned that problem before but since I had never had any troubles, it didn't occur to me to try it. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/blush.gif |
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Welcome to the SE4 Ratings system, Excimer-500.
That makes 30 players. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif |
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Last item on the "Rules" page reads:
"(6) If you fail to finish a game for any reason, it will be considered a forfeit/loss unless the victor agrees to the reason for the failure to complete the game." First, we need to decide if Cybersol's drop should be counted as a forfeit. From what I'm guessing, it is believed that real life caused the drop and not a losing position. The other players being rated in this game should state if they feel the drop should be allowed without it counting as a loss for Cybersol. That's the first item to be dealt with. Second, whether to allow Alneyan to count the game as a rated game for himself. My personal feeling is that (after 27 turns) Cybersol played enough of the game that it's a bit difficult to give all the credit of any potential win to Alneyan. Or say that Alneyan deserved the loss if it happened. So, my thought is that the game should continue without Alneyan's position being rated. BUT, I think it's fair to hear some other thoughts on this problem as well. Sooo...? |
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So it is a complicated matter. Erh... I see, it wasn't exactly the sort of input you expected. If you do want to complicate matters even more, you could consider Cybersol was not the only one responsible for the current situation (and for the outcome of the game, whatever it is), but Primitive as well played a major part. For the sake of simplicity, this shouldn't be taken into account though. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif
So. I can see your concerns, I do have an asset by taking over a developed position with a strong ally. So it would not be exactly fair for me to earn all points from a potential win. I think I shouldn't be rated in this game then, which will only leave the problem of Cybersol withdrawal for the other rated players to solve. My two mineral cents worth. |
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Thanks for bowing out of the rating request. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif It makes matters more simple now. Hope you aren't upset...but if you are, you have the golden opportunity to get even now... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif . |
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I think we should just wipe off Cybersol from Pair's rated players list. Only a few people have met other people yet so it would be too easy points.
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Yes you are right, but I believe it is even more important in this game, as coordination in the team is much more needed than in other games. But I digress, as we agree on what to do with my suggestion so. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif
Why would I be upset? It was merely a suggestion rather than a request, in case it would have helped you. Of course, either it would solve the problem, or it would make matters that more complicated. And given your argument, it makes sense that I am not allowed to "take over" his rating. So I am perfectly fine with your decision, but I will still trying to convert this opportunity into a win. Wishful thinking on my part. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif |
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Cybersol had to prioritize RL over SEIV and has dropped out of the Pairs game.
The game is still early (turn 27) and he was well placed (we was partners). Getting victorypoints for his dropout will be the cheapest points ever awarded http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif So what does the rules say ? |
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If Slynky allows such a change, I could be rated instead of Cybersol, as I took over his Empire. I would not mind, this game being still in its early stages.
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I was actually going to suggest just dropping Cybersol from the rating. I'd like to take victory points over Cybersol, but we never actually meet, so doesn't sound fair.
I'd be happy for Alneyan to count this as a rating game, since it is still early, he is taking over a rated empire and I can't see the game ending this year anyway, but this is just my 2 cents. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif |
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1 player removed due to drop 2 games completed * 2 games added Some statistics: 13 games in progress 22 rated players ** 20 players currently in rated game As always, please review your interests and make sure I haven't forgotten (or made a mistake) anything. * Although RexTorres and I never asked about our KOTH game being a rated game, I have decided the best way to represent scores would be to count our game for score. Hopefully, Rex won't be upset. ** Players having completed at least one rated game |
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I almost posted that you've made a mistake, my KOTH game isn't over yet http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif . But then I read KOTH thread and noticed Gecko has surrendered to me. I have to say it was a surprise.
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i noticed i was not on the rankings page... do you have to finish a game before you make it on the rankings page ????
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Slynky answered in the KOTH thread you need to finish a game before making it to the Ratings system. (He explained why in this other thread)
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1 game completed; 1 new player added to the Ratings system: Fire Welcome to the fun and madness, Fire! Fire is a longtime friend of mine (well, if you can count us knowing each other nearly 3 years on the Internet a long time. We met in an SE4 game then later he joined me and others in the Mechwarrior Gaming Zone). He's been playing for a while, off and on, and wants to try his "luck" against some real mean people http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif . |
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Welcome to Fire then. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif Is he as mean and as tough as you Slynky? Or is he even better? *Smirks*
About the rating pages, you forgot to remove the DevNull Deccan vs Alneyan game. It ended a month ago or so. (You altered the rankings accordingly though) |
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does anyone want to have a one on one rating game so i can get up on the page ??? Or even a quick 4 player game.... All vs All just fight no treaties.... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
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and hit reply here down below what will post first
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hmmm hit reply in the reply thing
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New player added. Welcome to the Ratings system, Electrum! |
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2 games completed* 1 game added * Though it shows sorted differently, Geo, I computed Ratings points for you based on your game ending with Phoenix-D first then our game. PS: As always, please review your games and make sure I didn't miss any postings. Also, thanks to Phoenix-D for email notification of your game completion... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif |
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To keep the Ratings system as fair as possible while making sure it represents the abilities of the Ratings members, I'd like to propose there be a sort of committee to resolve any unforeseen "problems" with rated games. There was one in the past (where a member of the Ratings system took over for another rated member and asked if the rating would count for him). I had to resolve it the way that I thought was fair. But, I had to make that decision myself and I'd rather have other opinions for any future questions that may arise. So, I propose the following: That a committee be formed consisting of the following: 1. Myself (I started this idea... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif and I think I'm objective and fair) 2. Geoschmo (one of the most honest players I know and one who wanted to start the "Ladder" system but changed to this system) 3. Asmala (who runs the KOTH system now and who has demonstrated good leadership decisions in that area) 4. One other player (currently) below 1000 points in rating who members feel would be a good representation to add a bit of "equality" to the system. 5. And finally, a member recommended the most by other members. That would make 5 members...enough to avoid a tie and to get a good opinion. So, let's hear what you have to say about my proposal. PS: The Ratings site will be updated with the names and rules to reflect this change. |
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High-lighting the people above 1000 looks good.
How about also high-lighting the latest match results too? Slynky, After the Bash tounie finishes, unless we come head-to-head, I might have to challenge you, to see how quickly I can loose. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif |
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the graphic is cool
but you need to and a bash game... |
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I meant the 2 games that you just updated, should be a different colour, just so they stand out more, but then again - It's not important. Sorry, didn't even notice, but now that you mention it, that red is very blinding... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif |
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Ratings Bash - Gecko vs Steal Dragon
2404.5 Gecko defeats Steal Dragon. Thanks for a good game Steal Dragon. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif |
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I usually go straight to the statistics page but now you mentioned it I looked the index page. Cool picture. How have you made it? My greatest achievements in graphics is some 3d tutorial apples http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif
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Thanks. I'll check out that program.
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Slynky, have you considered starting a thread just for challenges? That way folks could just check the thread when they're looking for a game.
Also, I can't seem to find Fire around here (that word is a little to common for the board search) and he doesn't have his e-mail public at PBW. Would you mind forewarding my e-mail address to him, please? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif |
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I'm not in the habit of forwarding email addresses when I don't know if a person minds so I'll send a message and tell him you are stalking him... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif . |
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Cool, thank you!
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OK! Whew!
Site updated: 2 games completed; 2 games added; 3 new players added (note: you won't see your name in the stats till one completed game) Welcome to Yulroy, Ghrialton, and Nodachi! That brings the total members to 35. Not bad http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif . As usual, I request you look over any changes you expected to see on the site to make sure I didn't miss anything (it gets a bit confusing to get some game results by email...as requested...and have to search various threads to get others). |
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I posted a note below about getting together a committee to help out in the event of points of question or dispute.
The only reply I have gotten (or comments) have been from Gryphin, a none-member, who gracioiusly volunteered (like he has helped out in SE4 before) to be the "5th" member of the committee. He offers complete objectivity for any decisions that have to be made. I would accept him in an instant except for the fact he is a non-member. (of course he could join and never play a game... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif and qualify) So, I repeat my request for comments and suggest we accept Gryphin's offer. |
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