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se5a December 4th, 2003 06:44 AM

Re: PBW server is back up.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by geoschmo:
Ok, time for an update.

I called the ISP yesterday within 30 minutes of it going down. Got the usual answers on the phone. Got a call back a few hours later saying they couldn't find the problem remotly and would be sending a tech out on Friday.

I was not ammused.

I fully expect that the problem will be with the telco and not the ISP, but I have to play that game and cannot call the telco directly. For the purposes of my DSL the telco doesn't work for me, they work for the ISP.

We've been down this road before and the ISP tech coming out Friday means the telco doesn't get involved till middle of next week at best. So I wrote a stern email to the ISP support detailing the disatisfaction I have had over the Last several months with the service. I told them that if their objective was to drive me away as a customer towards their many competitors in teh highspeed market, they were doing an excellent job. (in those words exactly.) I also told them that I would not be happy unless they got a tech out to my home by today. (wrote this yesterday remember)

Well, lo and behold, it worked. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif The tech just left my house and is heading to the central office as I write this. Assuming she doesn't find a problem there she will get the phone company involved at that point. Not sure how much of a fire I can light under them, but at least we saved 3 days of the process. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Geoschmo

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">YEA!!! wooohooo!! BBQ time!!
**dons flamethrower**
BIRNGTHEMON!!!
and as the firebat in SC says so well "LETS BURN!"


and as for the pay/donate thing:
I am quite willing to pay $1 a month, however I am unable to. being in New Zealand I can have a paypal acc, but I have no way of putting anything in it unless I have a credit card, (which I dont have, and dont know if I can even get, considering that I havent held a full time job for more than a year.
ermm not as bad as that could sound...)

Fyron December 4th, 2003 06:58 AM

Re: PBW server is back up.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Phoenix-D:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
farstryder:
That just means that you only run one server, not a server farm. It is just a difference of scale.

Comparing any game to a MMORPG is a mistake because they are built around an entirely different marketing base. MMORPG, pay as you play. Other games, buy it once (or thrice in the case of certain disreputable companies *cough* civ3 *cough*). It is better to compare to the large majority of games/companies that provide MP servers without charging for them.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Except that most of these companies -don't- provide servers, they provide matchmaking services. IIRC even Blizzard's Battle.net is like this except for the Realms games for Diablo 2. This reduces the strain quite a lot..

And the comparison is relevent because someone else was refering to the pay by the month scheme..
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Ok. Fix up the TCP/IP mode and provide a match-makign service. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif In addition to the PBW-like functionality. I am sure that Shrapnel would be able to afford it for SE5... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

mottlee December 4th, 2003 01:50 PM

Re: PBW server is back up.
 
Some where someone cut the fiber!!!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif I'll bet

Unknown_Enemy December 4th, 2003 01:57 PM

Re: PBW server is back up.
 
Geo's provider has gained my special award of worst ISP I've run into. I understand the reasons that make Geo stay with that ISP, but I also understand how they can make good commercial offer if they are so cheap on service quality.
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

mottlee December 4th, 2003 05:19 PM

Re: PBW server is back up.
 
So who IS the ISP? AOhelL?

narf poit chez BOOM December 4th, 2003 05:37 PM

Re: PBW server is back up.
 
Quote:

Some where someone cut the fiber!!!! I'll bet
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">no, i cannot hear your call. i cannot hear your call at all. a mouse has cut the wire. goodbye.

1FSTCAT December 4th, 2003 10:00 PM

Re: PBW server is back up.
 
So what's the latest update, Geo? Is this going to be another 30 day hiatus, or what?

--Ed

geoschmo December 4th, 2003 10:02 PM

Re: PBW server is back up.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by 1FSTCAT:
So what's the latest update, Geo? Is this going to be another 30 day hiatus, or what?

--Ed

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">One day at a time...

farstryder December 4th, 2003 10:03 PM

Re: PBW server is back up.
 
The Gamer's Woe
by Johan Baumeister (aka farstryder)
(to be read in the style of Seuss)

Once upon a gloomy time,
A saddened gamer made a rhyme.
It was a story of his woes,
And this is how that sad rhyme goes:

When he awoke, his very first thought,
Was not of food, nor tea, piping hot.
It was of his most dear pastime,
That game of games, SE4 so sublime.

But alas! Woe was he,
PBW down? How could it be?!?
Crushed and gloomy, he turned to his rack,
Tried to have fun, but the gloom wouldn't crack.

So he sat down and cried,
And cried, 'cause he'd tried,
To have fun, but could not.
When who should appear, but Xintis, the bot!

The gloomy gamer barely perked up,
But Xintis told him, "Stop crying, sit up!
I've got a solution, one you must hear:
Call all your friends, both far and near!"

"We'll drum up a crowd of fans large and small,
Too many to know how to deal with them all.
Then start up a game via TCP."
"My router is broken, it won't work, you'll see!"

Said the boy to the bot, sad as could be.
The bot pondered that, said, "Watch some TV!"
With much distress and indignation,
With feelings of dread, and suffocation,

The gamer went over where the gleaming bot stood.
Dressed only in PJ's, a shirt with a hood,
The gamer-boy grumpily sat himself down.
While Xintis whistled happily, much like a clown.

He turned on the TV, changed the channel,
From Home Improvement, with Al and his flannel,
To Video 1, with its screen full of snow.
And shortly said, "Get ready for the show."

The boy had forgotten he owned Star Wars,
And Lord of the Rings, with elves and dwarves.
These magical, fantasy stories kept his mind free,
While valiant Geoschmo battled the evil ISP.

THE END

rextorres December 4th, 2003 10:28 PM

Re: PBW server is back up.
 
Pretty cool! I think you get an extra 10% for that though.

geoschmo December 5th, 2003 04:54 AM

Re: PBW server is back up.
 
The ISP tech ran the problem back to the central office and has passed it off to the telco, as expected. The telco has commited to getting out and checking their hardware by tommorow afternoon, which was a little unexpected. I guess my little email the other day is still having a motivating effect. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Knock on wood, maybe we'll be back up tommorow night. No promises though, of course.

Geoschmo

Roanon December 5th, 2003 07:25 AM

Re: PBW server is back up.
 
Tomorrow they will find out that someone needs to flip a switch. So they will have to send out someone who knows how to flip switches. Unfortunately, the telco's only expert for that is skying somewhere, and expected to be back after Xmas. The usual bad luck added, he will have broken his leg while skying prolonging his absence till end of january. Of course, the temporary employment of a six year old who knows how to flip switches will be vividly discussed, but rejected because the telco cannot afford the additional costs estimating about 4 bubblegums.

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

Atrocities December 5th, 2003 07:43 AM

Re: PBW server is back up.
 
Daja'vu (sp)

I think this has happened before..........

Jake Monroe December 5th, 2003 12:49 PM

Re: PBW server is back up.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Roanon:
blip
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Man, that was hilarious.
I'm only in one game, but I keep forgetting to check my email. Hopefully when this gets fixed, I'll be able to keep track a bit better so as to not miss a turn.

1FSTCAT December 5th, 2003 03:08 PM

Re: PBW server is back up.
 
How can you be so calm, Geo??

I've had DSL for two years, and Road Runner for two years, and I've never had an outage (on either service) for longer than 2 days.

I can't imagine what I would do, if my high speed internet was down for longer than that..

--Ed

Unknown_Enemy December 5th, 2003 03:14 PM

Re: PBW server is back up.
 
He is calm because he doesn't really have a choice due to the specs needed to run PBW.

1FSTCAT December 5th, 2003 08:43 PM

Re: PBW server is back up.
 
It's UP!!

OMG, IT'S UP!!

1FSTCAT December 5th, 2003 08:44 PM

Re: PBW server is back up.
 
For God's sake! Change the title of this post!! It's UP!!!!

Alneyan December 5th, 2003 08:47 PM

Re: PBW server is back up.
 
Still down here, I cannot go any further than the welcome page. I run into a "error 500" nice page after that. *Frowns*

se5a December 5th, 2003 09:01 PM

Re: PBW server is back up.
 
Im getting
"Internal Server Error
The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.
Please contact the server administrator, admin@pbw.cc and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error.

More information about this error may be available in the server error log.
"

1FSTCAT December 5th, 2003 09:02 PM

Re: PBW server is back up.
 
It's down, it's down!!

LOL

I guess what I should have said was:

Geo's DSL is FINALLY back Online. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Unknown_Enemy December 5th, 2003 09:02 PM

Re: PBW server is back up.
 
UP !!!!!!
I get an error now, but it is irrelevant. Geo's got his DSL line back, and that is the most important point.


YEAA

Asmala December 5th, 2003 09:09 PM

Re: PBW server is back up.
 
Yep it's most important that the DSL is back. I bet (knock on wood) Geoschmo can fix that error in no time http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

geoschmo December 5th, 2003 09:16 PM

Re: PBW server is back up.
 
Yes, the DSL appears to be back Online, although I don't think they are quite done yet cause now our phone doesn't work. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Also, I have to go home after work and get the server running before you will be able to get past the initial welcome screen.

But looks like chances are good that things will be back up within a few more hours.

Asmala December 5th, 2003 09:22 PM

Re: PBW server is back up.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by geoschmo:
Yes, the DSL appears to be back Online, although I don't think they are quite done yet cause now our phone doesn't work. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">LOL, looks like you have very professional techs there http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

geoschmo December 5th, 2003 11:58 PM

Re: PBW server is back up.
 
Up.

Unknown_Enemy December 6th, 2003 01:37 AM

Re: PBW server is back up.
 
Do you have DSL and phone working simultaneously ?
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

geoschmo December 6th, 2003 02:03 AM

Re: PBW server is back up.
 
Yes, the phone is working too now. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

se5a December 6th, 2003 02:05 AM

Re: PBW server is back up.
 
PHEW!! so they are not likely to cut the dsl trying to fix the phone...

geoschmo December 6th, 2003 02:06 AM

Re: PBW server is back up.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Atrocities:
Daja'vu (sp)

I think this has happened before..........

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Not really. Well of course we have been down before, but the Last time it was over a week before the telco tech made it out to check his end of the problem. This time we got to that point in four days. I think the improvement is notable, and promising.

You guys are so negative. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

Loser December 6th, 2003 02:25 AM

Re: PBW server is back up.
 
Meh. It could be worse. He could be working with US West.

Maerlyn December 6th, 2003 05:00 AM

Re: PBW server is back up.
 
geo, thanx a lot (my addiction was trying to kill me again) but your technicans over there are stunning me over and over again. I especially enjoy your telephon troubles http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

Phoenix-D December 6th, 2003 05:13 AM

Re: PBW server is back up.
 
Having issues again? The center frame isn't loading for me.

EDIT: annnnnnnnd..now it is.

[ December 06, 2003, 03:13: Message edited by: Phoenix-D ]

Loser December 6th, 2003 06:06 AM

Re: PBW server is back up.
 
Thanks for bringing it back Geo. It's so nice to have PBW again.

tesco samoa December 6th, 2003 01:33 PM

Re: PBW server is back up.
 
cool i should e able to do all my turns in about 9 hous

se5a December 10th, 2003 08:22 AM

Re: PBW server is back up.
 
have you swiched auto turns back on yet geo?

Roanon December 11th, 2003 10:22 PM

Re: PBW server is back up.
 
bump?

geoschmo December 11th, 2003 10:38 PM

Re: PBW server is back up.
 
No, I have not turned auto turns back on. Frankly I am afraid to at this point.

Unfortunatly the location where I have moved to is pushing the distance limits of standard DSL technology by a few thousand feet. The ISP has me hooked up, but the connection is not very good quality. At times it slows to a crawl, and at other times stops alltogether for a few minutes. Other then the 3 day outage Last week I think it's been mostly up, but I am afraid to turn auto turns on because I cannot be in a position 24/7 where I can quickly turn off auto turns if the server loses connection.

I am workign with the ISP to see if anything can be done, and also looking at some other possible options. PBW will not be going away, but it might not be staying at my house. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif I don't want to get into it other than that for right now, but I will let you know something in the next couple weeks. Just be patient with me, and have your game owner run the turns. It's still a lot easier then running the game PBEM. And if everyone plays, he doesn't have to do anything really.

If anyone has a game owner that is gone over the rainbow, let me know and we'll get ownership switched to someone active in the game.

Geoschmo

se5a December 12th, 2003 01:21 PM

Re: PBW server is back up.
 
how easy would it be to get it to ping your isp, if it dosent get a reply it will automaticly turn the auto turns off...
also if you had some kind of indicator on the homepage to let us know if its on or off would be cool to...
off course all this means work, blaeh...

hey, I could probibly host a game if you need me to.

[ December 12, 2003, 11:32: Message edited by: se5a ]

Nodachi December 12th, 2003 03:11 PM

Re: PBW server is back up.
 
It's back!

geoschmo December 13th, 2003 02:34 AM

Re: PBW server is back up.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by se5a:
how easy would it be to get it to ping your isp, if it dosent get a reply it will automaticly turn the auto turns off...
also if you had some kind of indicator on the homepage to let us know if its on or off would be cool to...
off course all this means work, blaeh...

hey, I could probibly host a game if you need me to.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I'm not sure how hard that would be. It would take some programing, and i have zero skills in that area. Georgig suggested it a while ago as well, but I never heard anything else about it, so maybe it ended up being harder then he thought it would be.

Geoschmo

Nodachi December 13th, 2003 02:41 AM

Re: PBW server is back up.
 
Is PBW having issues this morning? I can't get the web page to load and my RTC just sits there trying to connect.

1FSTCAT December 13th, 2003 02:51 AM

Re: PBW server is back up.
 
Not working for me, either.

--Ed

geoschmo December 13th, 2003 02:52 AM

Re: PBW server is back up.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Nodachi:
Is PBW having issues this morning? I can't get the web page to load and my RTC just sits there trying to connect.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Must be. It was working when I left the hosue this morning, but I can't get to it right now either. If it follows recent pattern it will be back up this morning sometime. Just keep checking back every once in a while.

Geoschmo

Slynky December 13th, 2003 04:24 AM

Re: PBW server is back up.
 
It's gone again?

CNCRaymond December 13th, 2003 04:28 AM

Re: PBW server is back up.
 
Confirmed, it be gone again. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

geoschmo December 13th, 2003 04:31 AM

Re: PBW server is back up.
 
should be back now

Slynky December 13th, 2003 04:44 AM

Re: PBW server is back up.
 
Yeppers! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Slynky December 13th, 2003 05:53 AM

Re: PBW server is back up.
 
Does the word "yo-yo" come to mind? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

[edit] or maybe "Slowpoke"? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[ December 13, 2003, 03:53: Message edited by: Slynky ]

Roanon December 20th, 2003 05:28 PM

Re: PBW server is back up.
 
Down again or just my ISP?


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