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Gecko has pulled out due to RL. What does this mean for our Bash? If it is over (as I would now assume) can I see his empire to judge how I was going?

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Looks like you and me, Joachim. Suggestions for our finale' ?

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Gecko's withdrawal also unfortunatly affects Baron Grazic as it leaves him without a final game opponent.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yes, makes it awkward. I suppose, without thinking about it too much...that he could receive a bye (with no rating adjustment) and be counted as a win. Though not strictly correct, it may "tie the package up" a bit. Kinda like counting the bye as a forfeit.

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that sounds fair. advance him with 0 score

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Not sure if your comment was meant to be sarcastic or not. Hard to tell here... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif . But, IF it was a negative comment, there is surely an opportunity to make an alternate suggestion.

In my opinion, one of the main reasons for playing was the "forced" matches with various opponents that one may never have played (otherwise). And for each completed game, there was/is a Ratings adjustment. Completing the tournement in a certain position is nice but having gained rating points is really the most important when all is done and said.

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Yeah, I'll leave it up to you Slynky as far as Ratings. For the tournament, Baron get's a bye and the 8th place finish. That doesnt' really count for anything but bragging rights. Currently I have Gecko listed as 14th, but I will probably end up dropping him and bumping everybody below him up a notch.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I'm up for anything. How about a strange new Tesco map?

[ February 23, 2004, 00:25: Message edited by: Joachim ]

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Well I suppose I can't complain. I consider myself an average player, which my rating and finishing 8th out of 16 seems to prove.
I would have prefered winning my 4th match however, but now that just means I'll have time for another game. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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hang off on those new koth maps they are none fav's right now

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I'm up for anything. How about a strange new Tesco map? </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Until the maps get a "lookover", how about one of Geo's maps from his Balance 1.1 Mod (I'd say one of his "balanced random" of the medium size with an adjustment in starting positions that puts a minimum of 5 systems between starting systems and a max of 10)?

Other settings (since you didn't make any suggestions)...how about:

1 or 3 GOOD homeworlds;
3,000 racial points;
No intel
No events
No AI
No Ancient ability

Your turn to comment http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I'm up for anything. How about a strange new Tesco map? </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Until the maps get a "lookover", how about one of Geo's maps from his Balance 1.1 Mod (I'd say one of his "balanced random" of the medium size with an adjustment in starting positions that puts a minimum of 5 systems between starting systems and a max of 10)?

Other settings (since you didn't make any suggestions)...how about:

1 or 3 GOOD homeworlds;
3,000 racial points;
No intel
No events
No AI
No Ancient ability

Your turn to comment http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">OK to everything, and 1 good homeworld.

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Joachim:

Uploading my file now. Hopefully, Geo won't mind spending a few extra minutes adjusting starting positions.

(Sure will be nice when the patch comes out...seems like I remember them tweaking the placement issue a bit)

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I will in about 4 hours when I get home.

Good Luck!

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Bash final - Rex Rex and his Rex Empire VS the Primitive Hordes – Turn 50

Spiral arm of approx 80 systems 3 normal planets, no stellar and no ancient (Tanx to Rex for allowing the restart when first map was not as expected).

- First mad colonization rush:
The Horde manages to grab a slightly larger piece of the map. Holding it is another matter http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

- Some early skirmishing:
The Primitive ones favourite toy; cloacked mine layers, turned out to be largely useless as Rex had his sensor satellites up at approx the same time the first mines was placed behind his lines. Losses (for him) were disappointingly small.

- First small attack:
A fleet of 29 of Rex famous destroyers crosses the border in the south. The Horde refuses battle and vacates a partially colonized system. Rex presses into the next and glasses a planet very close to the warppoint. Before he gets to the next (only 2 in the system) a small fleet of hastily upgraded LCs intercept and destroy the raiders. The Horde won the battle, but the border is moved one system closer to home.

- Lull (sort of):
Guess both of us was busy colonizing with our second tech and researching.

- New attack:
This time a fleet of 70 of Rex’s ships (50 % LC’s, 50 % Destroyers) enters the southern system. The Horde once again refuses battle and vacates the Last planet. This time Rex don’t (dare to http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif ) follow through into the next system but turns back. Only the Primitive one knows what would have been waiting at warppoint http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

- Turn 50, The Horde strikes back:
A raider fleet of some 25 LCs strikes into Rex territory in the far North and captures a planet. Rex has a small fleet of older ships there which should be easy meat if they engage. Only Rex knows if there are more ships hiding nearby. We will soon find out how much damage the raiders can manage to do.

- Status:
Don’t have a clue. The Horde still holds a slightly larger part of the map, but Rex has been in front on points for the entire game. If he is only a little bit in front then there is no problem, as he gets quite a bit of points from base shipyards and the (at this point in the game) useless destroyers. If he is far in front, then I’m in deep ****. The Tech he has shown so far is not too impressive, but who know what he has been hiding. A spyship hiding in a storm deep into Rex territory spotted some battleships at a disturbingly early date (turn 45 or something), but they need to have better weapons and speed than he has shown so far to be effective.

I’ll keep you posted. This is the most exciting/fun game I have been in for a long time. To those not voting for Rex in Slynky’s poll: WTF are you thinking, this guy is gooood http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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Nice update, Primitive. Thanks for letting us "little people" know how the "big guns" are doing.

[ February 25, 2004, 11:22: Message edited by: Slynky ]

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Thanks for the game start, Geo http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif .

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Any body have any updates on their Bash Tourney games? We've got a few still going on.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">You mean other than Joachim outproducing me (leaving me in 2nd place) even though he has much less than half of the galaxy map (Balance mod)? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

Nope...nothing else to report.

[ March 16, 2004, 21:04: Message edited by: Slynky ]

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">You mean other than Joachim outproducing me (leaving me in 2nd place) even though he has much less than half of the galaxy map (Balance mod)? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

Nope...nothing else to report. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yet everytime a new uber fleet engages a rat-tag motly collection of Slynky Junks I get wasted?? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Am I back in first? I gave up looking about ten turns ago as you'd been in first for a while.

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Good luck to you Slynky, you should do better than I did against Joachim. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif I remember a soundly eating against him, while I think I had a bit more colonies than he did. But then, I cannot say I played well in any of my Ratings Bash game.

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Okay dokay, Here is a bit of news.

Bash final - Rex Rex and his Rex Empire VS the Primitive Hordes

Turn 98, Rex surrenders

Turn 50 to 98,
- The Hordes Northern raiders clear out two nice but only partially developed systems in the far NorthWest (Actually only capturing 1 planet and Rex abandons the rest)
- Another raider fleet in the West goes south and captures a planet. Spots a Rex fleet of 60+ and flees back to mommy.
- Rex’s fleet of 60+ goes North. All available Horde ships line up on the warppoint leading into the Home system (eastward). Rex is smart and chooses to continue North instead. Over the next 10 or so turns Rex glasses (or the Horde abandons) 20 odd planets in 3 very good systems. WPs and suicide raids by small fleets manage to grind away on Rex’s fleet until it becomes of a manageable size and a hastily assembled force can take out the rest. This whole incident did not sit well with the members of the Horde with most planets dropping to angry and indifferent. Luck was on my side however as the 3rd colonizing tech was just coming in and some emergency colonization (and the resettling of 2 of the glassed systems) soon made the Horde jubilant again.
- Turn 70 something, another of Rex fleets of 60-70 ships goes Northwards, this time in the East, but is blown out of the sky by the Hordes main fleet. While numbering fewer ships, the Horde had the tech advantage (BS with PPB’s VS BC’s with DUC’s) it ended in a great turkey shoot. For the first time since turn 3 the Horde found itself in first position.
- Meanwhile, a steady stream of Horde raider fleets attacks in the deep south. The terrain there is full of empty systems and it’s therefore very hard to put up warppoint defence. The first 3-4 fleets pushes Rex out of a few system (Rex is good with the Abandon button http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif ) before they goes down to Minefields, WP’s or Rex’s fleets.
- Turn 90: Build-up is done and the steamroller starts rolling almost simultaneously on 5 fronts. The greater economy of the Horde (I got 50 % of the map secured, Rex 1/3rd and the rest is border/wasteland) has the fleets up to about 150 Battleships and 200 Dreads, most upgraded with Phased shields. Although Rex best ships now can match mine one-on-one, with the numbers on my side in almost all battles, it’s soon over.
- Turn 98, Rex surrenders.

Thanks to Rex for a magnificent game. This one was really close and could have gone either way. Rex went for huge early fleets, while I went for tech and infrastructure. Only the size of the map saved me from crumbling under his early attack. A smaller map and Rex would have been the winner (Thanxs Geo http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif )

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Congrats to the Hordes!

That makes you the tourney winner, right, Primitive? And with a bit of point computation caught up, Ratings leader. Now all you need is the KOTH crown and you can break out some meade and swill for us http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif .

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In the days of old, I dared to hope to be able to stand the slightest chance against the Horde. But by know, two former Kings (Rex was King if I am not mistaken, but my memory seems faulty) have fallen to the Hordes, and a third one could very well need to fight for his crown. No wonder I was beaten by these Hordes. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

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Primitive's analysis of the game is spot on. I chose the quick knock out blow and Primitive was able to absorb it. My home systems were in the corner of the map and I realized that a long game would have been difficult for me to win.

[ March 17, 2004, 18:01: Message edited by: rextorres ]

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Hands Slynky and Alneyan a horn each of the good stuff.

It’s been a good week http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Skål.

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BBegemott surrenders to Asmala. He played in no-mistaky style and desreved this victory.

Congratulations with the 3rd place!

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Thanks for the game BBegemott. I think the key for my victory was the starting position. I started much nearer the center than you so I was able to grab a bigger part of the galaxy. The result was I had bigger resource income, but I made one mistake: I stopped building research centers too early, when I had about 200k research points (it was a high research cost game). Even though my ships weren't so advanced as BBgemott's, my numbers overwhelmed his fleets.

The map was Geo's Balanced map and it was nice. The only problem was the amount of planets: it was quite laborious to maintain over 500 planets and 1000 ships.

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Well, somehow I missed the fact that Lord Chane beat Gozguy while I was on vacation. That gives us two more matches, assuming that all four of you are still around. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif This tourney has been going on for a while now.

Alneyan vs Lord Chane

and

Steal Dragon vs Gozguy

Tourney is almost over. Top spots have already been decided. If Georgig and Tesco would finish their game then everybody would be on their Last round games. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

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I know that Lord Chane and Alneyan know they will be playing and, I assume, intend to see what comes of the match.

Hopefully, when it's all done, there will be a rankings list posted.

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Hey, I have a little problem. I remember that Steal Dragon goes by something else on PBW but can't remember what it is. Does anyone remember what his name there is?

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I've been updating the bracket as things progress at least as far as the tourney results go. Don' tknow about the actual Ratings points. That's more your area. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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Anyone who played him should be able to take a guess. But I'm at a loss, I think.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I've been updating the bracket as things progress at least as far as the tourney results go. Don' tknow about the actual Ratings points. That's more your area. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yeah, I know I do the rating points (and I've kept up with it...in fact, getting ready to update the site with the new games). I just meant the order that people finished in the tourney itself http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif .

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">http://seiv.pbw.cc/bracket.html

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">http://seiv.pbw.cc/bracket.html </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">KEWL! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif

Hadn't noticed it before.

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Do you have an user whose name is Randy (plus something else if memory serves)? If so, it might be Steal Dragon; I seem to recall his first name was part of his user name at PBW.

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PBW has three Users whose names start with Randy, plus several with rand or Randall.

capnq
PBW admin

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I think it's just Randy, with nothing else in the name. I have sent him an email. After doing some research he withdrew from his Last game without explanation so it may be that he's lost all interest in the game. That was several months ago though. If so I guess I'll just have to forget that Last game. I can give Gozguy a forfeit as far as the tournament goes, but it's probably not fair to give him points in teh SE4 Ratings because of it.

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Was the Last game in question the one I played with him? If so, he did withdraw either due to RL, or maybe because I dealt a tough lucky blow on the previous turn. But I gather RL is the more likely.

His mail is r[something]@hotmail.com; drop me a PM if you would like the full mail. And in said mail, his name was Randy alone, so it should be the good user. I cannot truly recall what was his username in our game though. *Grumbles*