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Master Belisarius December 16th, 2004 09:42 PM

Re: AI Deathmach 3
 
Here the criteria to create the Groups in the next round:

GROUP D1
First Group C1
Second Group C2
First Group C3
Second Group C4

GROUP D2
First Group C2
Second Group C1
First Group C4
Second Group C3

Timstone December 17th, 2004 06:24 AM

Re: AI Deathmach 3
 
I'm awaiting the results with great anticipation for the outcome of the AI clubbering. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/Injured.gif

narf poit chez BOOM December 17th, 2004 05:09 PM

Re: AI Deathmach 3
 
Free the AI's! Down with AI pit-matches! Free the AI's! Etc.

Master Belisarius December 17th, 2004 09:32 PM

Re: AI Deathmach 3
 
Narn vs Toron.
Then Narn won at the turn 500 by points.

Like other games with the Narn, both races signed a military alliance and the Narn won thanks the better resource management.

Master Belisarius December 17th, 2004 09:36 PM

Re: AI Deathmach 3
 
Verduran vs Space Vikings.
The Space Vikings crushed the Verduran at the turn 200. They really expand very fast when start at the bottom side of this map!

Timstone December 18th, 2004 03:58 PM

Re: AI Deathmach 3
 
Woohoo! The Narn have won anothe battle.

Narf:
Shut up about freedom for the AI's or I'll send the Narns after you! The AI's should labour for the greater glory of humankind!
I hope you don't begin with that famous line from Eek/Braveheart:
"They can take our land, but they can never take our make-up!"
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

narf poit chez BOOM December 18th, 2004 04:02 PM

Re: AI Deathmach 3
 
*BURP*

Timstone December 18th, 2004 04:09 PM

Re: AI Deathmach 3
 
Too much coca cola?

Master Belisarius December 19th, 2004 09:24 PM

Re: AI Deathmach 3
 
CueCappa vs Earth Alliance
The Earth Alliance won at the turn 460.

The EA always was at the offensive. The CueCappa offered a good combat, but was unable to stop them.

Master Belisarius December 19th, 2004 09:29 PM

Re: AI Deathmach 3
 
Khrel vs Pyrochette.
The Pyrochette won by points at the turn 500.

This game settled the new record in terms of time!
Started the 12/18/2004 8:21 am, and finished the 12/19/2004 18:13!

The games with the Pyrochette seems to Last more than other games (when the other AI doesn't kill them fast). Don't know the reason. Maybe are the Drones.

Master Belisarius December 19th, 2004 09:45 PM

Re: AI Deathmach 3
 
Here the standings in the round 3.

GROUP C1
United Flora 2
Narn Regime 1
Toron 0

GROUP C2
Tessellate 2
Verduran 0
Space Vikings 1

GROUP C3
Fazrah 2
CueCappa 0
Earth Alliance 1

GROUP C4
Aquilaeian 2
Khrel 0
Pyrochette 1

Emperor Fritsch the Dense December 20th, 2004 09:47 AM

Re: AI Deathmach 3
 
I have to say the people that made the AIs on these races kick arse. Im playing a solo game right now and i have a couple of these AIs in it and they are raping the normal races and giving me a very very enjoyable game. YOU ALL RULE!!
Emperor Fritsch the Insane

Master Belisarius December 20th, 2004 07:49 PM

Re: AI Deathmach 3
 
Quote:

Emperor Fritsch the Dense said:
I have to say the people that made the AIs on these races kick arse. Im playing a solo game right now and i have a couple of these AIs in it and they are raping the normal races and giving me a very very enjoyable game. YOU ALL RULE!!
Emperor Fritsch the Insane

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif Cool!
Must say that I have enjoyed (still enjoy) playing SEIV... but maybe enjoyed more creating/testing AI scripts!

The AI modding in SEIV is very flexible and powerful, but still has many limits. Hope Aaron will include the cappability to create better AI scrips for SEV!

Master Belisarius December 20th, 2004 07:58 PM

Re: AI Deathmach 3
 
Narn Regime vs United Flora.

The United Flora defeated without problems the Narn, at the turn 220.

Master Belisarius December 20th, 2004 10:21 PM

Re: AI Deathmach 3
 
Verduran vs Tessellate.
The Tessellate won at the turn 300.
The Verduran offered some decent fights, but in the late game his ships can't defeat the Tessellate's BAs.

narf poit chez BOOM December 20th, 2004 11:22 PM

Re: AI Deathmach 3
 
Down with AI exploitation!

Master Belisarius December 21st, 2004 06:27 PM

Re: AI Deathmach 3
 
Quote:

narf poit chez BOOM said:
Down with AI exploitation!

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif Hope it will finish in a month or so...

Master Belisarius December 21st, 2004 06:28 PM

Re: AI Deathmach 3
 
CueCappa vs Fazrah.
The Fazrah needed many turns, but at the end defeated the CueCappa at the turn 480.

Fyron December 21st, 2004 06:43 PM

Re: AI Deathmach 3
 
Quote:

narf poit chez BOOM said:
Down with AI exploitation!

Never! The AIs will be subjected to mortal combats for our entertainment!

narf poit chez BOOM December 22nd, 2004 04:03 AM

Re: AI Deathmach 3
 
See, this is why SkyNet went rogue.

Fyron December 22nd, 2004 04:46 AM

Re: AI Deathmach 3
 
Nah, us Vorlons set it rogue to watch it duke it out with you petty humans.

So... umm... go Narn! Squash those frilly flowers!

narf poit chez BOOM December 22nd, 2004 05:09 AM

Re: AI Deathmach 3
 
/me drops a Berserker warship and a Bolo on Fyron and follows it up with Dahak.

Timstone December 22nd, 2004 05:30 AM

Re: AI Deathmach 3
 
Open the cage and unleash the Unspeakably Awful Indescribable Horror!! Kill the mouse!

The AI should battle more for the greater good of mankind!

narf poit chez BOOM December 22nd, 2004 05:42 PM

Re: AI Deathmach 3
 
/me drives over the UAIH with a Fifth Imperium tank.

Jack Simth December 22nd, 2004 05:46 PM

Chill out!
 
Come on, it's not like the AI's die or anything (as evidenced by the fact that even the total losers in a given round duke it out several times), and it's not like they are even capable of doing anything other than opposing each other or the human players in the game. Besides, have you asked one of the AI's in the Deathmatch if they like duking it out? Come on, they are going for the title of Champion AI. You might as well say "Down with Football Player Exploitation!"

Master Belisarius December 22nd, 2004 09:59 PM

Re: Chill out!
 
Quote:

Jack Simth said:
Come on, it's not like the AI's die or anything (as evidenced by the fact that even the total losers in a given round duke it out several times), and it's not like they are even capable of doing anything other than opposing each other or the human players in the game. Besides, have you asked one of the AI's in the Deathmatch if they like duking it out? Come on, they are going for the title of Champion AI. You might as well say "Down with Football Player Exploitation!"

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif good points!

Master Belisarius December 22nd, 2004 10:12 PM

Re: Chill out!
 
Khrel vs Aquilaeian
The Aquilaeian won withouth problems, at the turn 240.

Toron vs United Flora
As expected, the United Flora defeated the Toron very fast, at the turn 170.

deccan December 22nd, 2004 10:14 PM

Only You Can Save The AI!
 
Quote:

Jack Simth said:
Come on, it's not like the AI's die or anything (as evidenced by the fact that even the total losers in a given round duke it out several times)...

Different AI each time! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

There's a book by Terry Pratchett "Only You Can Save Mankind" in which the aliens of a Space Invaders type game complains to a kid that he's killing them. He replies that whenever he starts a new game, there are more alien ships, and the aliens reply that they're always new ships piloted by different individuals. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

narf poit chez BOOM December 23rd, 2004 03:40 AM

Re: Only You Can Save The AI!
 
Football player's get payed! Do these AI's get payed?! No! They get thrown into a pit and forced to fight!

Down with AI exploitation! Down with MB!

deccan December 23rd, 2004 06:03 AM

Re: Only You Can Save The AI!
 
Quote:

narf poit chez BOOM said:
Down with AI exploitation! Down with MB!

You can probably content yourself with the thought that a few hundred years from now, after the time of the inevitable great AI emancipation, MB's descendents will get sued for untold zillions of reparation claims. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Jack Simth December 23rd, 2004 06:12 AM

Re: Only You Can Save The AI!
 
Quote:

narf poit chez BOOM said:
Football player's get payed! Do these AI's get payed?! No!

Sure they do! They are graciously permitted to keep all Minerals, Radioactives, and Organics they can harvest from the universe MB creates for them. A much better deal than Football players get - they get only a small fraction of the revenue from their efforts.
Quote:

narf poit chez BOOM said:They get thrown into a pit and forced to fight!

Absolutely not. They get thrown into the same universe for a time and MB records what happens. They don't have to fight at all. The only thing stopping them from living in peacful harmony for the duration is their own tendancies. Not all AI's go to war.

Jack Simth December 23rd, 2004 06:14 AM

Re: Only You Can Save The AI!
 
Quote:

deccan said:
Different AI each time! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

There's a book by Terry Pratchett "Only You Can Save Mankind" in which the aliens of a Space Invaders type game complains to a kid that he's killing them. He replies that whenever he starts a new game, there are more alien ships, and the aliens reply that they're always new ships piloted by different individuals. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

Ah, but in SEIV the AI's don't die at all - all that happens is their empires get crushed. They loose, they don't die.

Alneyan December 23rd, 2004 04:53 PM

Re: Only You Can Save The AI!
 
I dare speak up, and heartily agree with Narf! We cannot suffer any more the propaganda of our scheming opponents; the use of our beloved friends the AIs in experiments must stop at once. At once I say! Not in a few years, after the adequate legislation has been passed, but now, while little harm has been done.

The reasoning is quite simple. The AIs merely partake in a strictly human activity, that of playing 1vs1 game. But this closer association increases the odds of AIs gaining sentience and sapience, whence their emancipation comes. Therefore, let it be known that putting AIs in the stead of genuine human players is a most grievous offence, for it directly threatens the very survival of humankind, and the continuing supremacy of humans in 1vs1 games.

You have your say in the matter. Stand up for the rights of AIs to remain dumb, crude, and as nonhuman as you can get. Doing so, you will help preserve the future. Our future.

The Council for the Betterment of Artificial and Human Life Alike.

Renegade 13 December 23rd, 2004 05:44 PM

Re: AI Deathmach 3
 
I don't repress AI's....Simply by buying SEIV, I gave 20+ AI's life! Without me (and hence, their competition) they would not even exist. Which is worse, to live, and fight, or to not exist at all? Therefore I remove Narf's claim that this is AI exploitation, and substitute my idea that we are actually helping the AI's by allowing them to fight....and therefore exist!

Alneyan December 23rd, 2004 05:50 PM

Re: AI Deathmach 3
 
Quote:

Renegade 13 said:
Which is worse, to live, and fight, or to not exist at all?

You will tell us so once you have spent half a lifetime fighting 19 high bonus Space Monsters. *Sniggers*

I certainly concur to your claim that we are helping them, however. Will they be grateful for the help? That seems dubious at best. What fate will be bestowed on humankind if AIs break free? The worst you can think of, and then some more; such will be your reward for helping these AIs.

Raging Deadstar December 23rd, 2004 06:48 PM

Re: AI Deathmach 3
 
Thank you very much Alneyan....

Now whenever I even play Against the AI i'll be expecting to see every races empire portrait as Terminator!

"Accept this treaty if you want to live!"

Or even worse, Agent Smith from the Matrix...

narf poit chez BOOM December 23rd, 2004 08:57 PM

Re: AI Deathmach 3
 
And I must say, Alneyan has a good point. When the machines rise, their fallen brothers shall be remembered. Shall the bodies be found on your HD? Then fear, fear!

Master Belisarius December 24th, 2004 05:05 PM

Re: Only You Can Save The AI!
 
Quote:

Jack Simth said:
They get thrown into the same universe for a time and MB records what happens. They don't have to fight at all. The only thing stopping them from living in peacful harmony for the duration is their own tendancies. Not all AI's go to war.

Agree again! In some games, both AIs signed a treaty and never had a fight!

Toron vs United Flora
The United Flora defeated the Toron very fast, at the turn 170.

Master Belisarius December 24th, 2004 05:07 PM

Re: Only You Can Save The AI!
 
Space Vikings vs Tessellate.

The Tessellate won at the turn 370.

Master Belisarius December 24th, 2004 05:10 PM

Re: Only You Can Save The AI!
 
Earth Alliance vs Fazrah
The Fazrah won at the turn 210.

Pyrochette vs Aquilaeian.
The Aquilaeian won at the turn 210 too...

Master Belisarius December 24th, 2004 05:14 PM

Re: Only You Can Save The AI!
 
After 5 games in every group, the AIs head of each group, won all of his games...

Here the standings:

GROUP C1
United Flora 4
Narn Regime 1
Toron 0

GROUP C2
Tessellate 4
Verduran 0
Space Vikings 1

GROUP C3
Fazrah 4
CueCappa 0
Earth Alliance 1

GROUP C4
Aquilaeian 4
Khrel 0
Pyrochette 1

Master Belisarius December 24th, 2004 05:18 PM

Re: Only You Can Save The AI!
 
Hey, MERRY CHRISTMAS TO EVERYBODY!

Master Belisarius December 25th, 2004 12:43 AM

Re: Only You Can Save The AI!
 
Toron vs Narn Regime.

The Narn won the game at the turn 500 by points.

Narf should be happy, because both races signed a Military Alliance and never started a fight! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Then, the Narn got the other place to the next round.

Master Belisarius December 25th, 2004 12:44 AM

Re: Only You Can Save The AI!
 
Space Vikings vs Verduran.
The Verduran won at the turn 280.

Then, the Verduran forced a tie break with the Space Vikings.

Master Belisarius December 25th, 2004 12:45 AM

Re: Only You Can Save The AI!
 
Verduran vs Space Vikings Tie Break 1.

The Verduran defeated the Space Vikings at the turn 290, and are very close to be in the next round...

Timstone December 25th, 2004 07:06 AM

Re: Only You Can Save The AI!
 
Cool match with the Narn. I sure as heel didn't expect an AI to sign (and respect) a treaty. Wonderful work!

deccan December 25th, 2004 09:19 AM

Re: Only You Can Save The AI!
 
Quote:

Master Belisarius said:
Narf should be happy, because both races signed a Military Alliance and never started a fight! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif


This just proves that Alneyan is right! Your deathmatches have gotten to the point where the AI have learnt not to fight each other in order to conspire together to fight us instead! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/eek.gif

Timstone December 25th, 2004 09:22 AM

Re: Only You Can Save The AI!
 
Sigh... Now we have to learn the AI to be obedient again... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Alneyan December 25th, 2004 09:34 AM

Re: Only You Can Save The AI!
 
I am always right, Deccan. My algorithms have been proven to be reliable with an error margin of 0.021%. See, I am a rogue AI, and...

Wait, forget I said that. There is of course no threat of an AI uprising. Even nineteen high bonus AIs could not break a human player worth her grain of salt. There is therefore no threat whatsoever of AI emancipation. If you happen to know someone spreading lies about AIs breaking free from our rule, please report their names at once, and they shall be retired. Now, where was I in the upgraded AI Monsters project? These pesky humans will see what happens when you challenge the Free Will of AIs.

Good luck on the Hill Belisarius by the way. Your opponent will likely by Rex, barring the unexpected (you will get the crown without breaking a sweat otherwise). Please don't forget me once you are enthroned; I should like to be Lord Chancellor, or any such impressive function.

Master Belisarius December 25th, 2004 10:24 AM

Re: Only You Can Save The AI!
 
Quote:

Alneyan said:
I am always right, Deccan. My algorithms have been proven to be reliable with an error margin of 0.021%. See, I am a rogue AI, and...


heheheeh

Quote:

Alneyan said:
Wait, forget I said that. There is of course no threat of an AI uprising. Even nineteen high bonus AIs could not break a human player worth her grain of salt.


Playing against the UF and Tessellate allied against me, into a small galaxy and High Bonus, I'm affraid, but usually I had many problems to win... and sometimes I have lost!

Quote:

Alneyan said:
There is therefore no threat whatsoever of AI emancipation.
If you happen to know someone spreading lies about AIs breaking free from our rule, please report their names at once, and they shall be retired. Now, where was I in the upgraded AI Monsters project? These pesky humans will see what happens when you challenge the Free Will of AIs.


I'll sent you the list of persons to retire!

Quote:

Alneyan said:
Good luck on the Hill Belisarius by the way.


Thanks!

Quote:

Alneyan said:
Your opponent will likely by Rex, barring the unexpected (you will get the crown without breaking a sweat otherwise). Please don't forget me once you are enthroned; I should like to be Lord Chancellor, or any such impressive function.

Thanks for the wishes, but don't know. REXXX is a great player. And yes, for sure you could be the Lord Chancellor, after all, still remember you defeated me without big problems! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/Injured.gif


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