Re: Slow game
 

yeah it´s from the flying ship. I don´t know why it shows mapmove of 1, as it´s actually flying mapmove 3.

Re: Slow game
 

Server is hopefully only down (last 12 hours) and not dead?

Re: Slow game
 

new turn. Sorry that you all had to wait for me.

Re: Slow game
 

New turn. Hey, everyone gang up on Turin, for making me wait a week to get destroyed! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Re: Wolf
 

Damn, forgot to remove the wolves from my Werewolf scout. That wasn't a stealth army, he was only in the area because I had been trying to harass Vanheim a little bit and I figured I try and get some use out of him as a scout.

Re: Wolf
 

heh heh heh. New turn, and at least I inflicted some pain - one feebleminded oak tree sitting around harmlessly now. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif Shame I never had enough death income to make more of those bows....

Incidentally folks - TC is about to take possesssion of a province with a nice forge bonus site. Ah well - at least he had to make all his artifacts without it.

Re: Wolf
 

heh heh heh, you will be surprised next turn cainehill http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif .

Re: Wolf
 

Heh. I'll be surprised if I have a next turn, Turin. You're butcherin' me. (Technically, I'll be surprised if I have a 3rd turn - think I have 2 more.)

server down?
 

I can't connect to the server. Can anyone else get in?

Re: server down?
 

Nope, still down. I sent Chris a message.

server is up
 

The server is up.

Who is scooping up all the cool artifacts (Sword of Aurgelmere, Hammer of the Forge Lord, Mage Bane, Barrier, etc.)? I guess whomever has the Hammer of the Forge Lord.

I also wasn't excited about no Tree Lords answering my call. All 3 are already gone. I thought they were supposed to go to the guys in green.

Re: server is up
 

new turn.

Re: server is up
 

Sorry about the server being down.

I'm still interested in the game.. I haven't checked anyone's turns or anything, but TienChi seems monstrously powerful. Is that true? Are there any other major players (besides Pangea?)?

Give me the scoop!

Re: server is up
 

Yeah, based on my observation (which is very limited and more than a bit hearsay - take it with a pinch or a buttload of salt) 'tis pretty much a done deal. I can't quite imagine a dedicated opposition forming against Turin soon enough given the situation, so this should be in the finishing stages shortly.

Re: server is up
 

why am I the major player suddenly?

I´m missing lots of the important artifacts, my bloodeconomy is laughable and I constantly have to deal with ermors dominion.
And marignon seems to have grabbed most of the blood uniques and has the UberJesters as good cheap troops.

Worst of all I have built exactly 1 clam, so no income from hoarding.

Re: server is up
 

I still think it's gonna be me and Jurri in the end... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Re: server is up
 

I guess my take jives with Jurri's. I put Turin at the top followed by Marignon, then Boron and I maybe tied for third followed by Ygorl and Jurri.

But based on past experience, this is where I start to suck (clam? what's that?), so what do I know.

Re: server is up
 

A new and exciting turn is up!

Re: server is up
 

Blame it all on Tien Chichichi - he's got the artifacts, and he's got at least 2 of the trees. But one's retarded now. (Edit : Oh, and Thuella is now a very dimwitted Queen of Thunder! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

I'm dead this turn, but at least I did a little damage. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

Re: server is up
 

A new turn!

Caine: I'm afraid it's more than likely that Turin has both the Chalice and the healer hero at his disposal - if not, he's sure to have summoned a fairy queen (having enough nature magic for treelords and all). Thus, feebleminding his critters is a very minor setback!

Re: server is up
 

And he just put up the Fire Gem global (80 fire to cast). So now he has the Fire Gem, the Nature Gem and the Death Gem globals.

Not good guys http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

And good game, Cainehill. Maybe it will take a while for Turin to heal his dimwits http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Re: server is up
 

Server down?

Re: server down?
 

Server seems to be down indeed.

About the discussion:
I am a bit surprised that i am with you guys - still during the approaching endgame phase. (Which of i do not know anything, anything at all.)

Rumors concerning me having blood uniques has been a bit hilarious as Marignon only has few major devils and no artifacts at all.

I wouldn't bet anything on the Marignon as Jurri has mauled my armies with he's army of thirteen vampire ****s who summon screenfull of undead in every encounter with puffing of naturesage who casts relief with help of items.

Jurri has been very efficient in querrilla tactics against me as well. It's been a valuable teaching lesson from him so far, and i doubt that he is to fall anytime soon, but then again i don't know how ermor and acro are going to hit him...

I thank Jurri for all teaching until now and i doubt that i haven't seen just yet all he shall dish out:)

Re: server down?
 

And don't worry about occasional stalls with the server CUnknown, it's really great that you keep up feeding us with the fantastic turns of this game http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Re: server is up
 

Server is up.

Re: server is up
 

Hey guys, good game. And even if he has the chalice or the healing hero - I feebleminded 2 Tree Lords and 1 Air Queen on my way out. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Re: server is up
 

Cheers Caine!

... There seems to be something wrong with the server. Or i have completely misunderstood. My Gods eye program tells that the server is waiting for hosting and when i log in game it says Vanheim has not played its turn, even thou there is a message that says that Vanheim is permanently vanquished.

Should Vanheim try to log in?

Re: server is up
 

Just did, and the turn ran. Sometimes Dom2 gets flaky the turn someone is vanquished.

Re: server is up
 

gah now that jeffr has attacked me without giving the warning, of course I get a lab burning event in my capital, making it rather difficult to prepare a decent counter to his huge invasion army.

Re: server is up
 

Warning? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif We didn't have a Non Aggression Pact or I would have not attacked without a proper declaration of war.

But you attacked my wolf province in the same turn and took my Global to boot with no warning, which is, of course ok (except for the global, damn) http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

You have the Djinni too, eh? And four out of five globals and Air Queens and Tree Lords and who knows what else.

But, we'll see what my army of maenads and nature lovers can do for the just cause. The others seem a bit occupied, so I figured I better do something before it was too late. It is probably too late already, but what the hell.

If anyone feels like dispelling some of his globals or otherwise contributing, be my guest. He is massively powerful http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Re: server is up
 

You're quite welcome, Whollaborg! I fear I haven't been all that I could be against you, but I hope you realize the crucial difference between fighting a human and a machine...

You really should give that Ice Devil something else than that Wraith Sword: It always stings my heart when I see that bastard coming with his boots of strength and weapon that doesn't benefit from strength at all. Well, his tail can use the exercise!

If Ermor and Marignon join Pan, you could stand a chance, I think. Better yet, salvage what's left of Arcos and make him a forge-***** to grab those artefacts away from Turin once he loses 'em. With the same going for the elemental royalty, of course.

Re: server is up
 

oh sorry I was mistaken Jeffr. I thought we had an agreement, but actually we hadn´t. Well after my patrollers caught 20 white centaurs(and got a sound beating from them) I figured you´d be up to no good http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif .

Those treelords are really quite fun.

Especially since you can easily give them flying strategic mapmovement 3 with flying carpets.
I wonder if that´s also the case in the base game, or a result of the #clearspec command used in the mod.

Re: server is up
 

You know, I never thought of sticking a Tree on a carpet. What a great idea!

I wonder if that works for all immobiles?

Just my 2 cents, but my thought is that flying is too powerful as it is and should be restricted to a few units. Or, ideally, you should be able to fly between provinces you own, but not "paratroop" into an enemy province. Maybe only some special units should have the "paratroop" ability. I think I remember something like this being on the Dom III wishlist so maybe the flying rules will be changed a bit.

I think there is more strategy in maintaining lines of defense and only being able to breach those lines (via paradrops, amphibeous assaults, teleporting, etc.) with a limited set of special ability units. But hey, I'm a bit old school http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Re: server is up
 

Yeah - if nothing else, immobiles shouldn't be able to fly, imo, certainly not from a non-unique item. (All other means of movement for immobiles are unique items or spells like teleport, astral travel, fairy trod.)

Re: server is up
 

Having just done a test with the unmodded game, it definately appears that the #clearspec needs to be removed from the treelords - they're not supposed to be able to fly around, not even with the flying ship.

Re: server is up
 

Imagine a monstrously gigantic flowerpot on a flying carpet/ship, with a treelord planted in it. It could work.
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Re: server is up
 

Like I say - maybe on the flying ship. But a flying carpet? We're talking a huge old Oak Tree, maybe 50 feet tall and a trunk as wide as a carpet. More, from the play balance side, Illwinter made immobiles, well, immobile for a reason. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Re: server is up
 

They're skroderiders!

Re: server is up
 

A new turn. Featuring a very close battle between pangeaea and me. I really shouldn´t have invested in those water demons.

Re: server is up
 

Well, I just had a chance to briefly look at the turn. To sum it up, Adios Pangaea http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Turin destroyed all 3 of my armies and effectively has beaten me. I can fight a bit of a guerilla war from here on and try and stall him a bit, but I have no forces left. And what I had before the last turn was insufficient anyway, so it's only a matter of (a short) time, anyway. He'll get the 4 victory points that I have currently.

The gory details (from a brief look and from memory). Mabye this will help someone figure out a way to beat him http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Battle 1
Turin lifted the sieze of his castle by sending in 1 Air Queen and the Djinni against about 40 of my White Centaurs. The Air Queen had a Staff of Storms, cast Wrathful Skies and retreated. The Djinni stayed and trampled what was left of my forces (after the lightning) to death.

I actually thought he might try to Wrathful me and I had intended to get to him quickly (which I did) with my Weapons of Sharpness WCs. But I messed up somehow I think, and my WCs went in without Weapons of Sharpness and maybe even without being completely blessed and only managed to bring the Djinni down to about 45 hitpoints before they died.

Battle 2
I was going North with about 30 White Centaurs and inadvertenly ran into Anthrax and others leading what seemed like ~150 Vine Ogres. I think I killed maybe 10.

Battle 3
This is the close one Turin referred to above. Except I don't think it was close at all, but rather a clear victory for Turin.

I had about 40 White Centaurs, 100 Centaur Archers (flaming arrows), 50 maendads, 10 Trolls, 10 Banes and 17 commanders. He had a load of Vine Ogres, River Demons, lamias and Air Elementals plus an Air Queen, Tree Lord, Blue Dragon pretender and Celestial Masters.

I lost all my army including my Moloch and commanders(a bunch of Pans, a few Dryads, Lamia Queen, Bane Lord) except for a few that retreated, and he lost his entire army except for his Air Queen and Blue Dragon pretender. In other words, he lost, in my opinion, basically a lot of replaceable units while I lost irreplaceable units and items. He did lose, I think, his Tree Lord and the commander carrying the Luck Sword (what a great item! might have been the difference maker).

I cursed his Air Queen and Dragon (take that! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif). I intended my Pans and Lamia Queen to cast Petrify, Relief and Drain Life, but somehow I got a bunch of Tunes (of death, fear, etc.) and Panics after my script ran out. Nothing like casting Panic on the beserking Demons.

I wanted to send my Moloch with the Tartarian Chains and Aegis against his Air Queen, etc., but I sent him in to0 early maybe and he ended up attacking mindless Vine Ogres before getting paralyzed. I was really counting on Petrify to slow his SCs down, but ah well.

All in all a good game. I'm not out yet, and you never know what can happen, but at least one of the battles was fun to watch at the end, even though it didn't turn out well for the good guys http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Re: server is up
 

So, that was my update. A little too dreary, perhaps, but I was still smarting from getting reamed (especially by that damned Air Queen/Wrathful/Genie combo). I really need to learn how to manage SCs better. I have always sucked at this.

What's going on in the rest of the world? Is someone building some uber force to at least annoy Turin or are we just going to let him steamroll me? Not that I'm asking for help, of course http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Re: server is up
 

I´m really sorry, but I am out of town again, so Jeffr will have to wait until tuesday until he can see some more SC combos http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif .

Re: server is up
 

Finally a new turn. I show my incompetence by losing my tricked out 198 hp prophet wraithlord to a force of 12 white centaurs. Fortunately Jeffrs thug didn´t fare too well either.

Re: server is up
 

And people keep taking artifacts the same turn I try to build them. Frankly, this is not an economical use of my gems. I suggest that foreign artifact construction cease immediately, and artifacts manufactured in the last few turns be sent my way.
Thank you for your understanding.

server down?
 

is the server down? I am unable to connect.

Re: server down?
 

I am unable also

Re: server down?
 

server is up

Re: server down?
 

Ger and another army fall. This time in the defense of Port Hargal. I wish I could cast quickness and then paralyze. I cast Tunes instead http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Anthrax and the Djinni should be available if anyone wants to summon them. Please do, so Turin doesn't get them back. I'm sure he'll attempt that this turn.

Re: server down?
 

new turn.
quite a nice forestwalking trick Jeffr. Took me a while to figure out how the army got there.

Re: a walk in the forest
 

Oh, just some fun before I get smoked http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

So, this is where your construction bonus site is, eh? Or perhaps you have more scattered around. Are there walls around a Wizard's Tower? I don't think so, but I forget.