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I thought Frank quit dominions?

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I think Frank came back and posted a bit under VadalkenBear? Just guessing, they had very similar posting styles and demeanors and left in a similar fashion.

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I actually think that LA Mictlan is very well suited for this game. Which is why I picked them as my first choice even though I am not extremely proficient with blood magic. Since I lost the die roll to a player that is extremely proficient with blood magic, I am confident that they will do well.

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So it's agreed that we should start an anti-baalz coalition now - before it is too late?

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Wouldn't hurt.

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I had turned in a very long list of nations for this game(20 in fact), so was pleasantly surprised when I got my number 1 pick. No idea how well I'm going to do, between this being my 2nd ever MP game and I'm still playing my first 1 as EA Yomi right now, but it looks to be a good game regardless. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

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Heh, I have yet to win a single MP game, and this will be my first MP game with LA Mictlan so I wouldn't hold my breath on my domination. Hopefully my theory that they play the same as EA plus amphibious units will hold true.

So why don't y'all go pick on Helheim? Aren't they the usual target for a dogpile?

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No way, you better watch out for Cor with MA Ulm. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Velusion,I am Having trouble with your server (uploading pretender), help?

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In my last few emails with FT I got that he didnt quit dominions. He just quit this forum.

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Can you give us the server details for where we upload our pretender?

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Leave me alone!

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/rant.gif,
Jazzepi

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LA and EA Mictlan are quite similar. Blood is power, so fear any blood nation, that's my advice.

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I sent out an email with the info. I also posted the info here in a post ... flip back through my posts from last night.

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What error are you getting?

Edit: nevermind - I got your email.

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Blood is extremely powerful and that power scales with the size of the empire by a large ammount. Should any of the blood nations(probably EA or LA Mictlan) get a very large empire they will have a force to match. I personally am VERY happy there is no lanka due to their extremely powerful non-unique summonable SCs.

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Oh there is a lanka...

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Yes, Lanks is in play, and IT'S RIGHT NEXT TO YOU!
Ah ha ha ha ha!
Kidding (actually I haven't looked.)

My list of nations/players to watch:
MA Man -- ME!

Grab your ankles. All your bases are belong to us! Resistance is useless! EXTERMINATE! EXTERMINATE!

I had to nudge a couple of start locations over a few times, but I finally managed to fit 62 start locations with at least three provinces between each pair. The table of pairwise distances between starts is attached.

I sent in my pretender BEFORE I did this - should I post the final start assignments before other people are done uploading pretenders? I suppose there is a possibility people will change their pretender designs on the basis of who their neighbors are.

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I am an Idiot. Thanks for your help Velusion. this is my first server game.

Pretender uploaded.

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Yeah, it'd be better to wait until everyone is done uploading.

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I wouldn't post them at all. If people want to raid the .map file to figure out who their neighbors are they can - I probably won't.

edit: Do players even download the .map file anymore? If not even better - you can keep the starting locations a secret to your grave (or game end - whichever is sooner).

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Players will not need to download the .map file, the image is all they need.

However, unavoidably, *I* have seen it. I'll try not to remember the province numbers but there was some stuff I had to doublecheck by hand (as well as making sure that it worked.) I know where Lanka, Tir and Eiru start because I was doublechecking I had their nation numbers right.

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Where do we get the mod. Do we need it to enabled while making our god?

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Damn, didnt notice lanka as i only scanned the top of the list(where other EA nations were listed). I just hope they dont grow too large(although the darkness their best summons bring wont hurt me too much atleast).

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That will be revealed tonight. You do not need it to to create/upload your pretender.

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You probably aren't going to be a bless rush nation (man) so it doesn't concern me too much http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif.

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Coincidence that all 3 Atlantis players were in the last seed, with 20% increase?

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Yippee...got my first pick and I got a vote of confidence from Gandalf...double yippee.

Just picked Tir Na N'og for fun thou...arn't got a clue how to win with them! Also I always lose to the following players, who are the ones to watch out for, in no particular order:-

EA Oceania - Amazhair.
MA Oceania - Tyrant.
LA Ermor - Velusion.
LA Mictlan - Baalz.
LA Atlantis - Frank Trollmen.

So if you see any of them gang up on them and kill them, if you know whats good for you!http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif I also hope they start on the other side of the world from me as next door neighbours! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

But seriously...I have yet to meet a bad Dominions player. Dominions only seems to attract the best.

Good luck everyone and thanks to Velusion/Dr Praetorious for there hard work putting this game together.

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It just means that either no-one picked Atlantis (as I suspect is the case with EA Ulm, EA R'lyeh, MA Ulm and MA Agartha) or that those who did got picks in earlier rounds. Also, it was a telepathic plot by Frank, who wanted that maximum pop bonus.

Personally, I'm rooting for vfb, who picked Marverni. I hope he turns out to be some kind of killer genius.

The positions that I'm surprised made it into the last round:
EA Yomi - boring, but certainly not a weak position.
EA Atlantis - NOT THE FACE! I'm just glad I'm not coastal (yes, I peaked at my own start location.)
MA Caelum - Mammoths + 20% pop bonus in her capital? My advice to his neighbors: don't believe his lies, kill him.
LA Abyssia - On a map like this blood positions are very strong.
LA Midgard - Likewise. Also a strong sacred rusher, actually.
LA Atlantis - Have I mentioned that Frank is actually very good with this position? Like, better than he is with other positions?

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You guys are scaring the newbies (me). Personal goal, survive till turn 40.

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Shame Gandalf, Jurri and Quantum are not playing.

Or perhaps they are...

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Did just a forum search, looking for any tidbits on playing my nation, and... can I get an extra starting gold piece for each post by DrP implying MA Agartha sucks? Consider it a motivational pat on the head for the soon to be extinct race. :p

At least I might get lucky and get ignored in the initial fray. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

...uh, should be reading for the investment theory exam that's due in 10 hours, but... Dominions series, some things were not meant to be experienced by mere men.

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You think its a pitty QM isnt playing? :p

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My biggest surprises:

EvilHomer got R'lyeh with no one contesting him.
MA Vanheim wasn't anyone's inital pick.
So many people went for Sauromtia (are they that good?)

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I must admit my absolute greed for gold early, mid, and late game. And the nation I got randomly picked for will play well into what I want to do.

Jazzepi

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On the one hand I'm sorry I didn't get my pick, on the other I'm happy the man-flaying amazons get some of the love they deserve but have been lacking in the forums.

Poison composite bows, decent cavalry, magic paths facilitating summoning troops you can use with hydras (unlike other hydra nations). Ability to handle death scale (ND young mages), misfortune (bad event avoiding units), not overly resource-intensive.

And they eat their opponents. Or flay them.

My 0.02€.

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He was snuffed in Manaburn. Isn't Abysia supposed to be weak?

Yes, yes, I know. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/smirk.gif

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My goal is to simply not be the first one knocked out.
*crosses fingers*

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Id have shot for ea pangaea, ma pangaea, ea ulm, basically any nation that has lots of stealth since this is a good game for using those tactics.

But I think people need to hold off on the notion of weak nation and power nation. Those concepts tend to be particular to the game setup such as small maps and few players. This game is new territory. Altho I was surprised that some people didnt jump in to prove some of their favorite claims about imbalances in the game.

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Wow, I got a nation I've never played before (randomly). This should be educational. Or not, who knows.

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That's basicly the ultimate compliment, when people brag about winning a game against you. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

I (and I'm guessing Jurri too) avoided this game both because it's bound to be a total micromangement nightmare for people who really like to optimize, and because the unit limit is likely to mess it up.

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QM, I meant it as a compliment. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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Uploaded my pretender just now. It was fairly straight forward, but if I did make a mistake scream at me and I'll fix it.

As a newbie myself, I fully expect to die, but have fun doing so.

I'm a big Yomi fan myself, it was my 2nd choice in fact, so this was surprising to me as well. Gotta love fire-breathing, poison-puking demons as standard troops!

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This will be a game of insanity....

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Updated the main post with all the current info/instructions/status.

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Sorry to bug you velusion, but i connected to the game and it said that I claimed my nation ... but i didnt see anywhere to upload a pretender. I even looked it up in the manual! lol If you get a chance, can you check this out? thx

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If you only have one pretender for your nation, it uploads it automagically without mentioning anything to you. It's only when you have a choice of pretenders that it bothers to ask you.

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vfb has the right of it. Provided you claimed the nation it must have uploaded the only one you needed. IF you want to be sure you can create another dummy pretender and attempt to connect - at that point it should ask you which you want.

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Understatement of the thread http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif


What will be the timeframe for this game? When will it start, how long for the turns, when will timelimit increase, any house rules, how long untill I am on my knees begging for mercy?

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Can't answer that last one... but all the rest are detailed on the first post in this thread.

Nations Picks
 

I greatly enjoyed the nation draft procedure, it was fertile ground for enjoyable speculation.I had so much trouble trying to predict which nations would be popular that i was pretty much gaurenteed to be surprised, and indeed i was.

With every rush power in play and slow research handicapping the caster nations I figured the early game was so scary that there were only three ways to go- uberbless, SC pretender, or hide under the sea. I went for the third and decided after much thought to take my first pick first, despite a suspicion that it wouldn't go in the first. Looks pretty clear that few others were thinking aquatic.

My list of surprises-

All three versions of Atlantis fourth, what the heck are y'all smokin'? This boggles me so much i can't even offer speculation.

MA Mictlan last round. A top rush power so late shocks me. I guess the Mictlan fans went for the blood eras and blood fans skipped this one. Uskglass scored IMO.

MA Caelum 4th round. On the one hand a slow research game is not the game to play this most mage dependent of all nations, but last round for what i consider one of the very most powerfull nations?.... yeesh (EA Caelum not first round also surprising)

EA Ryleh last round. Insufficiently amphibious and/or why play R'yleh without the gate i suppose, but I figured them for a sure thing first rounder.

Midgard last round, though I kinda thought they might not be round one.

Patala- I wouldn't touch these guys with a ten foot pole, but the formidable KissBlade claims they are the top late game power and i figured they would be popular with the overly confident. Guess not.

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I think we all just accepted that EvilHomer would be R'lyeh no matter what and decided not the waste the pick. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif Go ahead and admit now that you are Spawn of Hastor EH.

Sauromatia has a nice army for the early, decent PD and a big toolbox for the mid, and blood and astral for the end, so i can see why they were sought after- an end game potential with a good chance of making it that far.

Such a whacky game and so many players i don't know that I don't really have much opinion on who to watch out for. Many from my list of top players are not in this game, and most of the ones who are well known and not likely to sneak up on anyone. TDNP may be trying to look inconspicuous by playing Man, but i spotted the pointy hat.
Personally, anyone playing a blood nation's gunna get the pointy end of the trident if they come near me.

Here are my two oracular pronouncments-

1) Catquiet will be there at the end if he chooses to be. I say this with confidence based on observation-I've
been in many many games with him, and he has finished every single one with a stong position (though i'm working on ending this streak right now).

2) The end game will take place under the long term influence of Arcane Coruption.

Thanks to Velusian for setting this up and hosting! Good luck to all, this will be fun!