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Jazzepi July 27th, 2007 09:31 AM

Re: astral boosters
 
Quote:

Lingchih said:
Exchange between Atlantis and R'yleh:

-Had enough?

-Your arm's off!

-Tis but a scratch. Have at you.

-Silly bugger.

Atlantis is in serious need of some Astral boosters. I'll pay top dollar for starshine skullcaps, etc. I'll even buy from R'yleh, if he is selling.

I'll sell you one for 5,000 gold and 100 gems of assorted type.

Jazzepi

FAJ July 27th, 2007 04:38 PM

Re: astral boosters
 
Quote:

Sandman said:
Has Pangaea given up?

He staled last turn, right?

He may be trying a different "scorched earth" approach to get back at me. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Sensori July 27th, 2007 04:51 PM

FROM BEYOND THE GRAVE, HE SPEAKS
 
Sounds like the "scorched game" approach. ;p

Jazzepi July 27th, 2007 05:42 PM

Re: FROM BEYOND THE GRAVE, HE SPEAKS
 
If we could set him to AI that'd be great.

Jazzepi

BigDisAwesome July 27th, 2007 07:06 PM

Re: FROM BEYOND THE GRAVE, HE SPEAKS
 
Give him this turn. Something could have come up. Now I'm all for no more than 2 turns staled in a row, but I always considered the standard to be at least 2 before you're set to AI.

BigDisAwesome July 28th, 2007 04:45 PM

Re: FROM BEYOND THE GRAVE, HE SPEAKS
 
I gotta show you guys this. First time I've ever seen something like it.
Also I MSpainted over the province name.

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/3...ubatmanyt5.jpg

BigDisAwesome July 28th, 2007 05:58 PM

Re: FROM BEYOND THE GRAVE, HE SPEAKS
 
And I forgot to say, but we should really look for a Pangaea replacement now. 3 turns+ is too much.

Sensori July 29th, 2007 02:26 AM

Re: FROM BEYOND THE GRAVE, HE SPEAKS
 
Hay guys, I'm back! In the form of Pangaea! Time to fight to the death with Helheim... AGAINNNN!

RRRETSU GOOOO! GEKIGANGAAA!

Jazzepi July 29th, 2007 02:32 AM

Re: FROM BEYOND THE GRAVE, HE SPEAKS
 
Ry'leh is still in the market for nature gems. We no longer have fire gems to offer, but we still have E/A/W/S

We would also like to purchase a dwarven hammer. We are willing to pay 20 earth gems for a single hammer.

Jazzepi

Lingchih July 29th, 2007 03:06 AM

Re: FROM BEYOND THE GRAVE, HE SPEAKS
 
Quote:

Jazzepi said:
Ry'leh is still in the market for nature gems. We no longer have fire gems to offer, but we still have E/A/W/S

We would also like to purchase a dwarven hammer. We are willing to pay 20 earth gems for a single hammer.

Jazzepi

Hmm. I have a whole rack full of dwarven hammers. I'll sell you one for, let's see, 120 water gems?

Jazzepi July 29th, 2007 12:03 PM

Re: FROM BEYOND THE GRAVE, HE SPEAKS
 
Nobody wants to see your rack http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Jazzepi

Lingchih July 29th, 2007 11:10 PM

Re: FROM BEYOND THE GRAVE, HE SPEAKS
 
Would anyone care to supply the poor Atlanteans with a bag of wine or cauldron of broth. I seem to have built up some rather massive armies that need food. I have many things to trade, and enough nature gems to build any of the above. Alas, we have no one skilled in nature magic.

EarthRaver August 1st, 2007 12:54 PM

Re: FROM BEYOND THE GRAVE, HE SPEAKS
 
Damned im undersiege by baalz's evil lizards, might be hard to get out of this.

EarthRaver August 1st, 2007 01:08 PM

Re: It\'s from Akvavitix!
 
Quote:

Baalz said:
Concede.

Considering you attacked the holy empire whilst the legion was otherwise occupied I have precious little patience for your sniveling that now the earth shakes as they march on you. Still, I am not a heartless emperor, surrender your lands and none of your people need be crucified, nor your lands salted. Roll to show me your belly and I shall allow you to be my lap dog. Otherwise I fear you shall learn firsthand how the legion's violent reputation was forged.

We will never surrender to you and your lizardry minions, even if our nation shall fall,our spirit will always exist to haunt you of your old enemies . We will make this last stand historic and show you our nation's might. For this will end on our hallowed lands.We will fight for honor to avenge our ally the great Kailasa and stop this hungry gobbling menace from extending his reach to the whole northeast of the world!

[Everything above is 100% dramatization. None of it is intended to offend anybody related. Thank You.]

Jazzepi August 1st, 2007 01:37 PM

Re: FROM BEYOND THE GRAVE, HE SPEAKS
 
Quote:

Lingchih said:
Would anyone care to supply the poor Atlanteans with a bag of wine or cauldron of broth. I seem to have built up some rather massive armies that need food. I have many things to trade, and enough nature gems to build any of the above. Alas, we have no one skilled in nature magic.

Hahahahaha.

Feel our pain.

Jazzepi

Jazzepi August 1st, 2007 01:43 PM

Re: FROM BEYOND THE GRAVE, HE SPEAKS
 
The people of Ry'leh are also interested in either your nature gems, cauldrons of broth, or bags of wine. Contact us if you wish to trade for gems or something else.

Jazzepi

Baalz August 1st, 2007 01:43 PM

Re: It\'s from Akvavitix!
 
'tis not the Lizard Auxiliaries you should fear, but rather the men they are there to support. Lizards are not known for raping when sacking a city, the legionaries however are known to be.... enthusiastic in their entertainment. Those same auxiliaries you fear for their cold eyes once defied the holy emporer, but had the good sense to bend to the prevailing winds rather than condemn their people to slaughter. Pity you don't share their good sense, your people might have found honor fighting with the legion, now instead history will record this as the year the last of the tuatha fell. Such is the legacy of worshiping an overgrown snake and befriending monkeys.

Sensori August 2nd, 2007 04:47 AM

Re: It\'s from Akvavitix!
 
This last standing business is fun. So much fun it is that I'm doing it again on a pretty much dead nation. Only difference between the earlier war and this one is that I've actually fought Helheim' troops and defeated them (although at a horrible cost to naked women) more often than he has defeated the armies of Pangaea. Considering that Valkyries and Helhirdings are cap only, and I've beaten like 3-4 groups of from 15 (one group) to ~45 (most groups) of them, he shouldn't have a whole massive crapload of them lying around anymore.

Anyone wanna fight Helheim? I'd say now'd be the time!

EarthRaver August 2nd, 2007 07:11 AM

Re: It\'s from Akvavitix!
 
Another month closer to the extinction of my nation, so cool so cool!

Baalz August 2nd, 2007 10:25 AM

Re: It\'s from Akvavitix!
 
A well used deployment of air elementals, they certainly saved your bacon! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif To be honest I did not think you would outlast the first wave, but now that you have spent yourself repulsing our Auxiliaries you have earned the honor of seeing the pride of Ermor in action. We salute you as a worthy warriors, our captains will raise mugs of ale in your honor...once they have liberated them from your personal stores.

FAJ August 2nd, 2007 07:47 PM

Re: It\'s from Akvavitix!
 
Alas, Helhiem has taken large casualties, and we face an opponent that outnumbers us 20 to 1.

We will do our best not to under-estimate you again http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif.

In other news, I have a ton of gems but no way to use them (My gem income actually exceeds my RP) so if anyone out there has the opposite problem, I am eager to trade. What I really want is someone to forge me astral items in bulk. PM me if you are interested.

EDIT- After seeing the most recent turn, we may not get another chance to underestimate you http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/shock.gif Anyone wanna lend Helhiem a hand? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Salamander8 August 2nd, 2007 08:47 PM

Re: It\'s from Akvavitix!
 
Well that was a sobering experience. Over 200 troops including casters backed up by some PD face about 40 giants and didn't even inflict a single casualty while taking grievous losses. My inexperience as Arco and MP games shined through on that one. I've never had that much problem with the giants before. A combination of their owner's skill and I usually don't play the more 'standard' nations mixed with my research choices. Dang SP games have me too complacent. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/redface.gif

I have to say that even with that, the pegasus riders have performed miserably. Even vs the indies earlier and especially in this battle, they just have not done well at all.

Lingchih August 2nd, 2007 10:45 PM

The Scourge of R\'lyeh
 
Jeez, man! I can't fight that. How do you feed all those bastards? Oh, and for future reference, Antimagic ain't worth a hill of beans against a true horde of Aboleths and their spawn.
Azathoth is now looking for a large cave, preferably a very deep and well hidden cave, to hide in.

-Atlantis

Sensori August 3rd, 2007 07:38 AM

Re: It\'s from Akvavitix!
 
Quote:

FAJ said:

EDIT- After seeing the most recent turn, we may not get another chance to underestimate you http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/shock.gif Anyone wanna lend Helhiem a hand? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

You forced my hand by throwing crap on Pangaea the province. So, thank yourself on being stupid enough do that! ;p

And as I said, NOW'S the time to attack Helheim if you ever wanted to! Leerooooyyyy Jenkinnnnnnnssssss

FAJ August 3rd, 2007 01:00 PM

Re: It\'s from Akvavitix!
 
Aw, cant call me stupid for doing that. If revenge wasnt enough, certaintly my close proximity and weakened state was enough to provoke attack.

Sensori August 3rd, 2007 03:37 PM

Re: It\'s from Akvavitix!
 
Uh, I was perfectly happy sitting in a defensive position, waiting for my death, but then you started Blighting my home and forced me to attack so I can gain some income. ;p So I'd call it stoopid! I'm not doing this for vengeance, I'm doing this to sub for someone who was dying under your pressure and to slow you down. And I surely didn't expect your armies to just die like that. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/eek.gif

Velusion August 3rd, 2007 03:47 PM

Re: It\'s from Akvavitix!
 
RPing is ok, but lets not get carried away with the name-calling eh?

Saint_Dude August 3rd, 2007 04:00 PM

Re: It\'s from Akvavitix!
 
Hey now, I lost a single battle to helheim (because my initial probe stumbled on about 60 hellherdlings) before I lost contact with the game. I in no way quite because of the outcome of that battle. I just ran into unexpected Internet issues during my move.

In actuality I went looking for a fight with helheim, fully expecting to grind them to dust. Not only did pangaea have vastly superior numbers, they had researched a number of potent area effect spells (to eliminate the glamour), and the pretender was well suited to either operate as an sc or cast support spells.

That pangaea is now in fact beating up on helheim is far from shocking (unless of course pan's pretender was scragged during the turns that I stalled). http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Sensori August 3rd, 2007 04:21 PM

Re: It\'s from Akvavitix!
 
Well, by the time I got control of Pangaea he was inside the little walled thingie and all that was left was like 6 provinces. ;p Numerical advantage has never meant instavictory, which is why things looked very bad to be. But right now, they look oddly good.

And Velusion, I'm just joking around when I wuz "calling him names." It's nuffin serious. ;p But still, the blighting was a mistake, I wouldn't have started attacking if he hadn't started it cuz I had no idea what he was packing.

FAJ August 3rd, 2007 07:14 PM

Re: It\'s from Akvavitix!
 
Well, its only fair for you to crush me. in this game, we are one for one; killing eachother and being killed http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif.

and I too was surprised by my troops just dying. I was watching the battle and all of a sudden everyone just ran and died. They seemed to be doing so well! I even saw my commanders escape, but they were reported dead. A shame http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif.

And I didn't take offense at the stupid comment. No worries. I don't consider any moves I have done in this game to be smart per se. I have no clue what I am doing with this nation and I am trying to conceptualize a plan to recover, but Helhiem is hollow. No infrastructure, no saftey nets! My god just showed up and I am wondering wth I was thinking when I made him!

Also, just curious, does blighting multiple times in one turn stack the effect, or is it at max, one blight effect? I cast it 3 times on the same place crossing my fingers http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif.

Saint_Dude August 3rd, 2007 10:20 PM

Re: It\'s from Akvavitix!
 
Quote:

FAJ said:
I was watching the battle and all of a sudden everyone just ran and died. They seemed to be doing so well! I even saw my commanders escape, but they were reported dead.

Sounds like the battle replay bug strikes again. When this happens the battle replays have little to do with the official final results.

Quote:

FAJ said:
I have no clue what I am doing with this nation and I am trying to conceptualize a plan to recover, but Helhiem is hollow. No infrastructure, no saftey nets!

I think Helheim is challenging to play. The helherdlings are awesome, but counterable. And once you lose significant numbers of helherdlings it seams to be all down hill from there. I think with Helheim it is very important to utilize their stealth and glamour capabilities so as to pick your fights and keep your opponent off guard.

Quote:

FAJ said:
Also, just curious, does blighting multiple times in one turn stack the effect, or is it at max, one blight effect? I cast it 3 times on the same place crossing my fingers http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif.

I believe the answer is yes, they stack.

Velusion August 3rd, 2007 10:52 PM

Re: Sophistry - Random Nations, Early Age (Sign-up
 
Nice. coobe's (Abysia) general mockery of the value of NAPs on the irc channel has materialized and put to practice.

I hope everyone realizes that coobe (Abysia) is dismissive of NAPs as "silly contrivances" and generally thinks they are silly.

I'll remember this betrayal in the future *winks*... and I hope everyone will as well (god knows I'm going to mention it every, single, chance, I, ever, can...)

Jazzepi August 3rd, 2007 11:08 PM

Re: Sophistry - Random Nations, Early Age (Sign-up
 
You posted in the wrong thread XD

Jazzepi

Sensori August 3rd, 2007 11:33 PM

Re: Sophistry - Random Nations, Early Age (Sign-up
 
He didn't, coobe took over Abysia after Micah figured he didn't wanna play after some subbing work by someone.

And I thought that he (coobe) just kept talking about how Jomon in the other game broke the NAP and so on and so on, but it turned out that it was just a random indie province skirmish. The one who I've seen talking about this issue and considers NAPs to be silly is Sombre (on IRC), who doesn't even do NAPs.

Jazzepi August 3rd, 2007 11:44 PM

Re: Sophistry - Random Nations, Early Age (Sign-up
 
I am Jomon in the other game, and I didn't break an NAP. I was throwing away some mercenaries into a territory he didn't control. You sure had a lot of fun jumping to conclusions. Hopefully I'll break Abysia's armies next turn and begin to retake my territory.

Jazzepi

Velusion August 3rd, 2007 11:50 PM

Re: Sophistry - Random Nations, Early Age (Sign-up
 
I updated the player list so it's clear who is who..

Sensori August 4th, 2007 05:05 AM

Re: Sophistry - Random Nations, Early Age (Sign-up
 
Quote:

Jazzepi said:
You sure had a lot of fun jumping to conclusions.

When someone says, "that nation attacked me!", it doesn't require a lot of jumping into conclusions. That's what he said. I didn't jump anywhere. I obviously worked on the assumption that he wasn't just overreacting, because people don't usually start calling it a blatant attack on them when that happens.

Velusion August 4th, 2007 02:06 PM

Re: Sophistry - Random Nations, Early Age (Sign-up
 
So, just to get the thread back on track, the general conclusion we are reaching here is that coobe (Abysia in this game) is untrustworthy and an early game backstabber (not just in this game but in all games)?

I just wanted to make sure we are all on the same page http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Jazzepi August 4th, 2007 02:09 PM

Re: Sophistry - Random Nations, Early Age (Sign-up
 
I thought the point was that Sensori is a doufus http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

Jazzepi

Velusion August 4th, 2007 02:11 PM

Re: Sophistry - Random Nations, Early Age (Sign-up
 
Quote:

Jazzepi said:
I thought the point was that Sensori is a doufus http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

Jazzepi

Stay on topic... Stay on topic..... *BLAM*

BigDisAwesome August 4th, 2007 02:17 PM

Re: Sophistry - Random Nations, Early Age (Sign-up
 
Quote:

Velusion said:
Quote:

Jazzepi said:
I thought the point was that Sensori is a doufus http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

Jazzepi

Stay on topic... Stay on topic..... *BLAM*

Stop spinning Velusion!

Velusion August 4th, 2007 02:19 PM

Re: Sophistry - Random Nations, Early Age (Sign-up
 
Quote:

BigDisAwesome said:
Quote:

Velusion said:
Quote:

Jazzepi said:
I thought the point was that Sensori is a doufus http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

Jazzepi

Stay on topic... Stay on topic..... *BLAM*

Stop spinning Velusion!

I can't stop spinning in disgust at Coobie (Abysia's) desicrations of NAPs.

I know... If I just talk it out, all the anger will eventually go away (say in a month or so). http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

FAJ August 5th, 2007 01:44 PM

Re: Sophistry - Random Nations, Early Age (Sign-up
 
I will be going on vacation in a week. Unless a sub wants to take over for 6-7 days, I will set myself AI on saturday.

Lingchih August 7th, 2007 12:09 AM

A Warning...
 
The ancient city of Atlantis is about to fall to the evil, mindless hordes of R'lyeh. There seems little hope of defense. Mighty Azathoth will take his revenge as long as he lives (we woke him all the way up now, so watch out), but the seas will eventually be controlled by R'lyeh. The Arcane Nexus will be sure to follow.

Not that the rest of you nations need worry too much (except for perhaps Oceania). I believe his worthless little flippered bugs are useless on land. But when you look to the sea, say a blessing for brave Atlantis, who strove to remove his evil from the world.

(Actually, Azathoth is pretty evil too, but different. He's a good sort of evil, you know?)

Jazzepi August 7th, 2007 01:14 AM

Re: A Warning...
 
Azathoth wants to eat your children! Thank Ry'leh for crushing his empire and helping to rid the world of his influence http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Jazzpei

Sandman August 7th, 2007 11:00 AM

Re: A Warning...
 
T'ir Na Nog is certainly giving Ermor quite a fight...

Jazzepi August 7th, 2007 11:05 AM

Re: A Warning...
 
Oceanian recently ended our NAP and now is massing troops on our borders. We do not have scouts in the eastern part of the world, but all those who border him please contact us. We dislike being under siege by two nations at once.

Jazzepi

Sensori August 7th, 2007 11:19 AM

Re: A Warning...
 
Heh, Saint_Dude really overestimated the power of Pangaean chaff versus Helheim, not to mention that he really botched the element of surprise and totally crushed any chances of victory with the stale turns. I still say that it's impossible to win this war. Hell, the only way to even win a fight is to just sit there and wait for Helheim to attack, and that's not a very good offensive strategy, and only works to a point.

You know, inability to recruit Pans or any troops unless you get lucky with events isn't a good thing when you're supposed to try to win a damn war. I still wonder how you, Saint_Dude, even thought you could've won this thing, unless the aim was to just get killed fast by staling while Helheim takes everything over.

I should do what Velusion asked me to do and turn this nation AI. ;p Especially now that my job is done, I slowed down Helheim, harr harr!

(RANTING IS OVAR)

Baalz August 7th, 2007 12:48 PM

Re: A Warning...
 
Indeed, the Tuatha have proven worthy adversaries, and I have underestimated them again. Yet still, their candle burns too brightly I think. A scant dozen heroes now hold the capital, the walls stand abandoned and their gem stores are exhausted. Their prowess will be sung through the ages, but now the time has come to lay down the sword. I urge you, great wyrm, to not throw the last few lives of the Tuatha away in a futile gesture as the drums of inevitability beat on. I have prepared a reservation for you, near the C'tisian reserve. You have earned a well deserved rest, let the last of the Tuatha earn everlasting honor as captains in the Ermorian legion, not be consigned to the footnotes of history as yet another barbarian cult destroyed by the rising sun of the Ermorian empire.

Salamander8 August 7th, 2007 07:22 PM

Re: A Warning...
 
Arco is being stomped into the ground by the super-blessed Niefelheim giants. Only my forts are slowing them down and that's only as long as it takes them to break in. All my neighbors should be prepared for my lands turning cold in the near future.


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