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Xietor November 25th, 2007 11:47 AM

Re: An excerpt form Marignon
 
Llamaserver took my revised turn, so it is working now. I will shorten the timer and turn force host back on.

Zeldor November 25th, 2007 11:02 PM

Re: An excerpt form Marignon
 
Great. But it seems to not display turn time correctly...

Xietor November 26th, 2007 07:25 PM

Re: An excerpt form Marignon
 
The Peaceful Sages of Arcos. have met our first neighbor. As a civilized race, we hope to have full diplomatic ties, trade between nations, and treaties that mutually benefit our respective people.

Naturally, however, good neighbors do not lay claim to provinces that border a neighbor's Capital. Though peaceful in nature, Elephants can become quite agitated if they are denied ample room to graze.

Zeldor November 27th, 2007 01:49 AM

Re: An excerpt form Marignon
 
Ermor had a lot of luck with starting location.

Xietor November 27th, 2007 02:05 AM

Re: An excerpt form Marignon
 
My preference is to not run into Ermor or Mictlan early on, but qui vivra verra.

Astrologers and Priestesses keep the peace in Arcos. with the use of Elephants! Those who break the law are crushed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crushing_by_elephant

Zeldor November 28th, 2007 02:51 AM

Re: An excerpt form Marignon
 
I have some astral gems for sale.

LoloMo November 28th, 2007 03:18 AM

Re: An excerpt form Marignon
 
IndyPendant may have found the source of the missing scales bug. It seems to be connected with assigning poptypes to the starting province. Perhaps the map can be revised even while in mid game and fix the problem?

http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/thr...o=&fpart=1

Xietor November 28th, 2007 03:26 AM

Re: An excerpt form Marignon
 
Naturally it is Dr. P's fault!

Xietor November 28th, 2007 04:40 AM

Another One Bites the Dust!
 
According to the score graphs, the Agartha Epic Hero becomes the 4th known dead Epic Hero. Of the original 18, only 14 still walk the land. And it is only turn 9!

A word to Mictlan and Ermor, do not tempt fate. Rapid expansion on crowded maps equals dead Epic Heroes.

The Agartha Epic Hero was quite a thug. I made a test game-and he appeared overpowered. I suspect he was killed by battle magic.

LoloMo November 28th, 2007 08:13 AM

Re: Another One Bites the Dust!
 
In my test games, it appears that you can wish for an epic hero, and probably end up with multiple copies. Do we wish to allow this or not? We might want to make a ruling on this while it's still early, as some of the Epic Heroes make for better wish targets than a Seraph.

LoloMo November 28th, 2007 08:55 AM

Re: Another One Bites the Dust!
 
Also, it appears that I have a bug attached to the winter wolves summoned by my Yeti Epic Hero.

Twice now, the battle message did not coincide with the battle replay. In the first instance, my last remaining winter wolf was killed in the battle replay, but survived the message and in the strategic screen. The second time just this turn, my 3 winter wolves survived in the battle replay, but died in the battle report.

In the battle replay, they were left with 1, 2, and 4 hps. The only thing I can think of if this is not a bug, is that they have the ability "strength of winter". Is the hit point gain only a temporary effect during battle only?

Aapeli November 28th, 2007 10:57 AM

Re: An excerpt form Marignon
 
Seem like suddenly the nation of Ulm has three Caelian provinces next to them. It just happens that I forgot to buy a scout and tought all was well but no mammoths are pouring to my lands. How toughtless of me.

DrPraetorious November 28th, 2007 11:06 AM

Re: An excerpt form Marignon
 
He was killed by Orb Lightning from a group of indie wind masters http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif. Quite anti-climactic.

I wonder if I can mummiffy him.

Xietor November 28th, 2007 11:07 AM

Re: Another One Bites the Dust!
 
I am aware that you can wish for Epic Heroes. And given that you can wish for Seraphs, I am not sure any Epic Hero is tougher than a Seraph. In fact I am fairly certain none is better.

100 s gems is a high price for an Epic Hero.
The Kitchen Sink Mod raises the price of clamming, so there should be fewer surplus gems floating around this game.

As to the "replay" bug, I think Edi may be the one to ask. There is nothing unique about the Winter Wolves the Yeti summons. They are exactly the same as the ones you summon.

Replay bugs occurred in Epic Heroes 1 and in Alapca(Alpaca was a vanilla game except worthy heroes). In Alpaca it was a major battle between Llamabeast and Jay Thomas. Though i think it was a mistake, Llamabeast replayed the turn so that the battle occurred again, but that changed the result of battles for many other races that had no bugs.

Llamabeast had a theory that the server was using a different version of worthy heroes than 1 of the players. We should all be using Worthy Heroes 1.8. I will double check with Llamabeast to make sure the server is also using 1.8.

And when I inquired about it after EHI game, many posters said the replay bug occurs randomly-and has been a bug since domI.

I have cautioned players until I am blue in the face that solo Epic Heroes can be killed by indies. But many insist on rolling the dice. The dice are weighted in your favor-but they can all die to indies. The lightning mage indies can kill any epic hero-and fairly easily i might add.

Agema November 28th, 2007 01:33 PM

Re: Another One Bites the Dust!
 
Yeah, I test played SP quickly and found that Beowulf normally cuts through your average indies but can come majorly unstuck against tramplers.

Baalz November 28th, 2007 01:43 PM

Re: Another One Bites the Dust!
 
The Eriu hero I ran 3 different test SP games and couldn't find an indie that fazed him. Turn 6 in the MP game though he took a lance to the face. *sigh* open ended die rolls....

Hadrian_II November 28th, 2007 02:03 PM

Re: Another One Bites the Dust!
 
Immortal epic heroes are the way to go http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

especially the ones that are resistant to everything http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

Xietor November 28th, 2007 03:34 PM

Re: Another One Bites the Dust!
 
In my tests of Cathbad(eriu Hero), he only has 15 hps, though he is coded to have 18. Anyone have any thoughts as to the discrepancy?

Foodstamp created Cathbad, though i beefed him up a great deal with serpent, snake hair, armor, good fortune, and many other perks.

Cathbad is tough, but I would not try him against units with a charge bonus.

Arcos EH is decent, but there is no way i ever use him solo. He is a general of great ability-and that is wasted if he does not lead armies. But he is not designed to be a thug.


Xietor November 29th, 2007 06:13 PM

Re: Another One Bites the Dust!
 
"Immortal epic heroes are the way to go.

especially the ones that are resistant to everything."

True, but in some instances, immortals are always immortal. Especially if you use them in a province with only 1 candle of dominion!

Xietor November 30th, 2007 01:54 AM

Re: Another One Bites the Dust!
 
Turn 10

What wars are going on?

Obviously Mictlan and Shinuyama.

Keep the world informed!

DrPraetorious November 30th, 2007 03:47 AM

Re: Another One Bites the Dust!
 
I'll have my first contingent of golems teleporting into Arcoscephale's capital the turn-after-next.

Xietor November 30th, 2007 04:05 AM

Re: Another One Bites the Dust!
 
I knew I should have played Ermor!

shard November 30th, 2007 09:07 AM

Re: Another One Bites the Dust!
 
I think theres one between Ulm and Caelum?

As for the seas, well, all sorts of dangers lurk in the depths. Who knows what one might come across?

Aapeli November 30th, 2007 05:29 PM

Re: Another One Bites the Dust!
 
Well yes Ulm (me) and Caelum do have a battle. Also I have seen the dreaded Angel of Ermor on the other border.

Xietor November 30th, 2007 05:59 PM

Re: Another One Bites the Dust!
 
"Also I have seen the dreaded Angel of Ermor on the other border."

How does that song go? "Give Peace a Chance."

Double and triple 9 blessed sacreds early in the game before potent battlefield magic is in play is brutal.

Tramplers are also brutal. Sounds like another song. "Double Trouble."

Where exactly are Ermor and Caelum? They are both on my Christmas Card list, but I am not sure I have the correct address?

Zeldor November 30th, 2007 07:59 PM

Re: Another One Bites the Dust!
 
Well, I can send some greetings to Ermor. Or give address to anyone interested http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

LoloMo November 30th, 2007 10:07 PM

Re: Another One Bites the Dust!
 
Yup, the wooly mammoths of Caelum have discovered the delicious dark chocolate treats of Ulm: crunchy on the outside, chewy on the inside! =)

And we have also been keeping track of the Ermorian movements.

Xietor November 30th, 2007 10:42 PM

Re: Another One Bites the Dust!
 
I predict a war over Ulm's capital. If Ulm is lucky-they fight among themselves before he dies.

They are all in the deep south-no threat to us civilized races.

Agema December 1st, 2007 02:10 PM

Re: Another One Bites the Dust!
 
I'm away from home at the moment and borrowing a Mac for my turn - I'm having some technical difficulties, so I might not be able to get the it done in time, but we'll see.

Xietor December 1st, 2007 07:58 PM

Re: Another One Bites the Dust!
 
In the vanilla game, Ulm would be toast against a trampling nation. How are those Black Order Soldiers holding up? They hit hard.

LoloMo December 1st, 2007 09:16 PM

Re: Another One Bites the Dust!
 
Ouch! Ouch! That Black Duke of Ulm and his cohorts are tough! But double dutch chocolate ice cream was promised to our wooly mammoths and nothing gets in the way of their ice cream! After the hapless Black Duke was exhausted from casting one too many fireballs, he was trampled and plowed into the snow by our sweet toothed mammoths. Sporting gaping holes in their chests and limping from various wounds, our lovable huggable mammoths were still able to enjoy their special treat.

Xietor December 1st, 2007 10:23 PM

Re: Another One Bites the Dust!
 
Another Epic Hero dead? wow.

Aapeli December 2nd, 2007 06:48 AM

Re: Another One Bites the Dust!
 
As the duke and his cohort moved forward in to the walley, the duke felt chill on his back. The sacred jeti had come in sight, but not only him but also 20 oversized mammoths with pretty fat looking ankles! Suddenly he realized how the jeti had lured him into a trap! Rage rose inside him and totally disregarding of his on safety he started to throw fire and shadow and curses but it didnt help. He saw how the ranks of the black order splintered and in the end there was only him, separeted from the farstrikers, alone in the middle of the mammoths.

And I still have to figure out a way to banish 30 mammoths out from my capital! Never tought lolomo had mustered that big gang of mammoths [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/Envy.gif[/img].

Meglobob December 2nd, 2007 08:38 AM

Re: Another One Bites the Dust!
 
Quote:

Aapeli said:And I still have to figure out a way to banish 30 mammoths out from my capital!

Mice, they cant stand them! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Preferably giant mice.

The Blood Cursed Champion is alive and well, although he did have a recent month of dodging lightning bolts, which was unpleasent.

Xietor December 3rd, 2007 03:17 PM

Re: Another One Bites the Dust!
 
The Peaceful Astrologers of Arcoscephale have divined the following using their mystical arts:

1. The stars alignment show that a new year has begun. For lack of a better name, we have named it Year 2 in the Ascension War. Of the original 18 Pretenders, 17 remain.

2. The blessed nations have all blasted off to strong starts, and the targets of the blessed nations have not fared well, with Ulm and Shin. losing their Epic Heroes.

3. Some nations in the race to expand rapidly, also lost their Epic Heroes. Agartha and Eriu. The Stars do not tell the fortune of these races. Time will tell, however.


4. Divination has revealed the following wars:

Agartha v Pythium
Shinuyama v Mictlan
Ulm v Caelum
Atlantis v Ryleh

8 nations at war, but 9 are at peace.

Zeldor December 3rd, 2007 03:23 PM

Re: Another One Bites the Dust!
 
I wouldn't be so sure about that 17 pretenders left...

Hadrian_II December 3rd, 2007 06:20 PM

Re: Another One Bites the Dust!
 
Quote:

Zeldor said:
I wouldn't be so sure about that 17 pretenders left...

They might be temporary death, but not permanently vanquished.

Xietor December 5th, 2007 05:52 PM

Re: Another One Bites the Dust!
 
Arcoscephale is buying/trading for a dwarven hammer and an eye shield. Both are constr 2 items. Arcos. has constr 2 items/gems/gold for trade.

shard December 8th, 2007 07:10 PM

Re: Another One Bites the Dust!
 
I wish I had mindless morale 50 pd. Amazing defensive chaff!

PS - I'm in the middle of my trip so sorry for the late or somewhat incoherent replies to diplomatic missives. Normal service should be resumed in a week's time.

Xietor December 11th, 2007 04:50 PM

Re: Another One Bites the Dust!
 
To alleviate boredom, the message of the day has been changed on the Llamaserver for the Epic Heroes II game. The message was copied from the Epic Heroes I game, and is applicable in every mp game.

Another mighty Epic Hero has fallen. This time the Ancient Ophidian of Ctis. That makes the total known dead Epic Heroes:

1. Basalt King-Oceania
2. Black Duke -Ulm
3. Cathbad-Eriu
4. The Obsidian Medium-Agartha
5. Ancient Master-Shinuyama
6. Ancient Ophidian-Ctis

Xietor December 12th, 2007 05:59 PM

Re: Another One Bites the Dust!
 
Strange, I had a stale turn, but i received an acknowledgment from llamaserver that my 2h file had been received.

Meglobob December 12th, 2007 06:25 PM

Re: Another One Bites the Dust!
 
It says turn 13 as well not turn 17.

I think llamaserver has gone nuts again!

Tichy December 12th, 2007 06:38 PM

Re: Another One Bites the Dust!
 
What does this mean for us? I haven't send in my turn 16 yet. Should I, or should I wait for this to be sorted out first?

Is this a sort-outable problem?

Janlm December 12th, 2007 06:49 PM

Re: Another One Bites the Dust!
 
resend your latest turn it says..

Xietor December 12th, 2007 06:50 PM

Re: Another One Bites the Dust!
 
Everyone needs to resend the turn they sent last turn. The game is on turn 16. So you need to resend turn 16(same turn you just did) into llamaserver.

Llamabeast provides an excellent service to Dominions III. It has an occasional hiccup, but it is free and how can you beat
something as great as the Llamaserver for free?

The timer has been reset to 48 hours-but since it is the exact same turn, hopefully folks can get them sent in sooner. But if not, you still have the full 48 hours to get the turn back in.

Good Luck All.

Hadrian_II December 12th, 2007 07:23 PM

Re: Another One Bites the Dust!
 
Quote:

Xietor said:
The timer has been reset to 48 hours-but since it is the exact same turn, hopefully folks can get them sent in sooner. But if not, you still have the full 48 hours to get the turn back in.


This would violate the golden rule of big games:

"Someone will always stale"

So it is not likely to happen.

Hadrian_II December 13th, 2007 07:41 PM

Re: Another One Bites the Dust!
 
Is there some problem with the game, or is just the status page broken?

Xietor December 13th, 2007 07:48 PM

Re: Another One Bites the Dust!
 
I sent Llamabeast an email telling him the status page shows the game on turn 45.

Maybe everyone got set to ai during the turmoil, and we will have a true winner by tomorrow! Go Arcoscephale!

Xietor December 13th, 2007 08:22 PM

Re: Another One Bites the Dust!
 
Everyone must send in their turn again.

Llamabeast had issues that are now fixed with the game. Unfortunately, everyone must yet again send in that same turn.

Sorry for the inconvenience. But I still think the Llamaserver is the top choice for hosting dominions games. Velusion has ahiccups with his server a swell. Just the nature of the beast i am afraid.

Zeldor December 13th, 2007 08:52 PM

Re: Another One Bites the Dust!
 
I did it again but it seems that R'lyeh got deleted from the game?


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