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well the idea was to scout if you had spend insane amouts of cash on PD there too... which you did.

THe other idea was to
cast mistform (which they did)
then cast a few thunderstrikes (which they did) to kill the lonely troop that was there (if you didn't have PD)

and after 3-5 rounds before your troops could reach them (which they didn't in that time) RETREAT (which they didn't, DAMMIT) the last round, with your troops all around him.. he cast RESIST POISON...

WTF RESIST POISON???

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The more often I think about this, I think you're the victim of the AI.

I was just reading the FAQ forum, and it says that the AI will ignore scripted commands if, for example, it thinks them wasteful.

The example they give is that if there's a spell, particularly one that uses gems, that can only target a weak target (according to the scripted command) then it'll do something else. Agree, however, that casting resist poison instead wasn't the AI's finest moment, but definitely funny!

Couldn't you have just used a scout to figure out my PD?

And I take it there's no way to arrange your PD - they tend to just make a big blob in the middle which hinders their effectiveness...

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Well if it was weakly defended 2 galdermen should've conquered it.. that was the idea (I mean they killed at least 20 persons in PD.. not just scouting

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Well...Karlem just declared war on me. Guess it's time to bring out the big guns (and call for divine intervention...

Also, anyone at war with Mictlan, consider me an ally. I will aid any who seek Karlems anihillation.

edit: I am at a relatives, I will probably get my turn in around midnight tonight or early tomorrow.

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Hmm...did you try to send in your turn Ghill? Hasn't registered.

I guess I seek everyone's annihilation, but I kinda have my hands full with my good friend (and Karlem's) Aezeal...

The end game starts now
 

The Iron Council of Ulm has gathered and has come to a conclusion Mictlan's invasion of Patala is too serious threat to world balance. Therefore it has been decided that NAP between Ulm & Mictlan needs to be cancelled. Ulm will honor the expiration perioid though, just like I said I would do in this kind of situation.

Karlem, I sent you a PM regarding this in case you didn't notice my declaration here.

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hmm... What do othes think of this?

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well I think it won't stop me killing you http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

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Lol ... Send your army at me - as long as you leave a couple of galdermen to fight mictlan I'm sure you'll be fine... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

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Mictlan has enough troubles as is, I'm his ALLY as you might have noticed (but bot bordering ulm or patala so offensive wise I can't do much). I think patala and ulm vs mictlan is a nice background fight while I kill you http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

PS Karlem if you need more airgems for brands I'm always happy to help http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

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PS james do your turn, and the rest too, I want to see a new turn http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

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Content to finish second aezeal?

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Well Ulm+Patala is probably enough for me at the same time. Do you want to join James? I have not attacked you only because Aezeal asked me not to http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif. He wanted you completely for him and we have no past trouble so I did not expect a so bad feeling against me http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif. Give Zenzei AND Ghill some credit James.

And Aezeal, I always have confirmation of my NAPs http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif and if possible reconfirmations http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif. And yes, we are allies. It's more than a NAP, at least for me, it's a declaration of intentions.

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lol I'm having fun with you james and after that the game will probably be decided anyway between the 3 pplz with larger armies if they are finished I think the game shouldn't drag on to long.

: The end game starts now
 

Where are you located aezeal? I'm at work!
But ill do my turn asap. Do you work as a foreman by any chance? You should! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

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no I'm a medical docter wanting to be surgeon (hopefully, once upon a time) and I can't even read the forum when I'm at work http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

I'm in the netherlands btw. 23:20 here.

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Well well, this game has certainly taken some new twists it seems. Saying I'm excited to see how things play out would be an understatement.

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Hear hear, zenzei

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I hope the last 2 turns will be in within the hour http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif after that i'm going to sleep http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

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Karlem, I've no intention of attacking you! I'm sure you'd be trembling if I did of course...:D

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Good to know James, good to know http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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Heh, looks like the list of people who don't want to Karlem to win this game is growing thin, very thin. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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Some things I've learned from this game:
-I'll never again take growth scale because I'm blood nation.
-I'll never again take luck scale as any nation (Mictlan being the possible exception).
-I'll never again take Heat3/Cold3 unless my important troops have at least fire/cold resistance 50.
-Beware the NAP trap! I think Patala was the victim of this in this particular game.
-In most cases manual site searching isn't beneficial thing to do. Even in late age where site freq is lower.

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I know I am

lol that was a reply to James about the trembling

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Zenzei, about the luck thing. I completely disagree. Luck makes turmoil a possitive scale http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif.

O3L3 is wonderfull too, lots of markets and forts for free. Test it.

H3/C3, well, I allways take H3/C3 if nation has even 1 degree of H or C in its description, however only if the encumbrance of my main units is not high to avoid fatigue.

I like the NAP trap sentence. Quite true.

Manual site searching is usefull in the early game or to begin a new path, otherwise if you have the gems cast remote searchs.

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Yes, turmoil & luck have an obvious synergy but every time I take the combination it just doesn't seem to work out so well. I think reliableness of order/misfortune is better than randomness of turmoil/luck.
This inspired new words of wisdom:
-Beware the luck scale trap! It tempts you with national heroes and cool events but in the end order prevails. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Order and luck together certainly are nice but you're going to have hard time getting it without going for scales god. I like active pretenders.

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Seems that James was not completely sincere when his wrote his post.... let's see how this evolves but 3 on 1... I now know what Jomon felt http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif.

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I, for one, am glad Arco has decided to fight Mictlan after all. The actual amount of help Arco will be able to provide remains to be seen but Ulm is hopeful. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Karlem, I don't think you are even close to the situation Jomon was. Jomon got totally overpowered(all the leaders vs him) but Mictlan certainly has a good chance of winning this war because it's only clear leader vs. some runner ups. However, I will do everything I can to make sure hideous Mictlan lies in ruins at the end. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

PS: Karlem, only three more turns to go. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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Good chance? Are you kidding? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

I do not think I am so ahead to win this war, 3 on 1 is too much for me.

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Yeah, I'm sure all those Jaguar Warriors and Ice/Arch Devils you have provide no punch at all. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif
Not to mention they are supported by your huge gold & gem income.

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Arco can't do anything because I'm going after him.. he just wants the support of the rest against me should they win and take down mictlan.

Btw Karlem I think the chances are about 50-50 now we'll see how it goes http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif and arco declaring doesn't change a thing he's just trying to flee from me which won't work in any case.

Zenzei.. his income isn't all that... his upkeep is low though..

I have same income... so the graphs say... btu I have 50% upkeep or more...

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Aye, Midgård has good income too but I was speaking from my point of view and compared to Ulm, Mictlan certainly has huge income.

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Yeah sorry karlem. At the time I was sincere but some solid arguments changed my mind. In my mind if you aren't hit hard now then you'll win. So you are I had no choice at all. My sum isn't to destroy you, just to help org you back a bit.

I'm a n00b and made the noob mistake earlier of thinking backstabbing in naps was just part of the game. This time I figured I'd declare my (changed) intentions up front, even knowing that surprise would have helped more. See - I'm the good guy right! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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Sorry for mistake words - writing on blackberry...

Aezeal, you're a good guy but dreaming a bit. A big part of the reason I'm attcking mictlan is that jomon has done such a great job tying you up. If intended to invade you or at least cotinue our stalemate. But I just don't see you as a real threat at least while you're otherwise occupied. One on one I'm sure you'd thrash me but figured I needed to weigh in where I can make a difference.

Good luck all!

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you have seen I'm having a major army in Jomon's last castle I'm going to take and that I then can move into your territory ASAP?

The only reason I started doing Jomon first was cus you wheren't doing anything http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

a cold war it seems.. but with the army on Jomons castle I SHOULD be able to storm him next turn

I', REALLY surprised I STILL can't storm your castle though.. how many turns have I been there now?

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Dunno
... 4 turns? You only have 60 troops there

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hmm well 40 strong troops though http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif I'll get it soon enough

Re: VampireBat - LA game for new players
 

arco/mict do your turns!! even marignon has done it already..

I want that castle

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First battle of war, winner: Mictlan!

To one side mighty Arcosephale, with no less than 24 commanders including multiple mages. And 164 troops including 14 elephants.

In the other side the defender, Mictlan, with 8 commanders and 143 mighty defensor of freedom.

The clash was brutal, the jaguars warriors died by dozens under the feet of the mighty animals, the magma bolts rained by dozens but nobody retreated. With the bless of the true God the warriors keept on pushing, fighting over its dead friends and punishing the hated arcosephalian for its attack.

At the end 8 of arcosphalian commanders lay dead on the floor and 147 of its fighter including all but one elefant were left on the battlefield while Karlem believers claimed:

You will nos pass!

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Oh dear... Well I'm sure it'll be good watching... Well defended! And great narrative - must say that's been one of my favorite things in this game!

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BWA HA HA HA HA HAH HA HA HA HA HA!!!

Heee heee, he he... sorry, you reffered to Mictlan, the blood hunter with evil scales as the defenders of freedom.

Anyway, I was just thinking of the irony that you declared war on me, the weakest nation in this world, and that because of it you will be fighting dramatically unbalanced war against almost the whole world.

Also, I saw your battle. AWESOME! Also, what's with the turkey?

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That was a great battle. I had no idea that you had that many troops there. Did you move many in that turn? Or was it PD? Maybe I shouldn't have declared my intentions. Anyway, it looked like something out of Lord of the Rings...and we all know what happened to the elephants in that...

The turkey?!

Poor old Khan'Gar-OftDead is now licking his wounds yet again...

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I had many troops around and prepared for your attack. You gave Ghill some maneuver time http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif.

Had you not declared your intentions I would have done the same, 200 troops in my border with not other possible enemy near? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif This way it is just more clear who's the enemy and who isn't http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif.

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We do defend freedom. The freedom of your soldier to die for their God, the freedom of the virgins to be sacrified on the altars, the freedom of the demons to roam the world... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/stupid.gif

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Be glad mictlan only has 1.5 bless.. in anothergame I'm against a triple 9 bless (fire/water/astral).. those jaguar warriors are unkillable.. trampling won't go and they kill FAST with fire and water bless... they don't die cus of first the twist fate and then the shapechange too.

The turkey is a shapeshifter mage I think

Hey arco... could you set up some party tents for 200 new visitors in halbartia? I'd be happy with some rooms inside the castle too btw http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif
Next turn Jomon looses his last northern castle and turn after that I'd like your castle too http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

PS if you want to spend more cash on PD in those provinces near the castle be quick.. My mages haven't really impressed me (they don't seem to follow orders quite well) so I need them to get some target practice with thunderstriking in 2 turns (See if they actually are gonna do it this time.)

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Just waiting for Marignon...:(

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Karlem: I just wanted to say it's only one more turn now. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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hehe marignon is so confused about attacking mictlan or not that he's gonna stale it seems.

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hmmm Jomon's last castle taken without losses always nice.

The majority of my army is insisting on lodging in halbartia castle and have breached the gate there.. as I remember there is hardly anybody home so that should be nice..

I finally know what i did wrong last battles.. it appears the great Aezeal has overestimated the stormpower spell since it has much more demands than other similar spells for other sphere's I assumed incorrectly that one stormpower would work for all my mages on the field (like light of the northern star for astral) so that explains why only 2 mages cast thunderstrike that battle (the one casting stormpower and the one with A3). It has cost me about 3 battles and some dozen galdermen, but now I know how it works http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif. Let everyone (and arco in particular) fear the galdermen.

But there will be some genuine target practice now Í have instructed all galdermen to cast thunderstrike.
My volva (which I'm recruiting mainly atm for research purposes) will be casting soulslay.. the targetting there shouldn't be a problem either...

My estimation: there will be some arco deaths next turn.

Ow and to show I also keep the bigger picture (mictlan vs patala, arco and ulm) in mind while destroying arco: I was wondering what the deeper theory was in giving mictlan more lands instead of taking them (as is usual when invading someone 3 on 1) .. no offence.. just wondering.

PS nice research ulm.

PPS nice list of ... thingies (I wanted to say people but I fear there are some demons in there) in the hall of fame Mictlan.

PPPS can anyone explain why my income went down in the graphs when I've only been taking provinces last turn?

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Battle plans of Ulm have been made and on next turn we'll see if I can give some headache to Karlem. Btw, Mictlan has them artifacts, I wonder if there's any left when I reach const 8.

Aezeal: Thanks, I'm quite surprised that I've been able to catch everyone even though I was the bottom feeder in research(by a huge margin) not so long time ago.

Yeah, Mictlan's devils have taken the HoF pretty good. Luckily unique summons don't get any heroic abilities.

Maybe you got some unrest events in your old provinces and the new ones have low income? That would explain the income drop, I wouldn't worry about it much though.

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I was just 2 on 1 last turn (Arcos an Patala) this turn Ulm will try to change things in its favour http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif .

Do you like my dudes? they do their work incredibly well http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif . Ask Patala for comments http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/stupid.gif