Re: LA Game - Victoria - Running
 

response is norfleetish. evidence that MX is chinese is rather poor - easy to set up proxies.

Re: LA Game - Victoria - Running
 

But isn't it standard response? But good to hear that at least security for .2h files will be improved, it should have been done long time ago, I just hope no more people will pop up when that protection becomes active.

Re: LA Game - Victoria - Running
 

Yes, me too. Although if there are more of this ilk I'd rather they'd be flushed out.

Believe me there's nothing (game play wise) more frustrating than playing against someone who cheats because there's no real game here, just an abuse of the fair players.

Re: LA Game - Victoria - Running
 

I'm quite surprised you guys want to continue that game instead of starting new one.

Re: LA Game - Victoria - Running
 

I've played to long already to just throw it all away. Besides, now the game gets even more interesting since the overlord is gone.

Re: LA Game - Victoria - Running
 

I'm pretty sure that he's chinese, just judging from his email address.

Re: LA Game - Victoria - Running
 

I think i may need a sub for Rlyeh=(

Re: LA Game - Victoria - Running
 

Not really a surprise for me. I hesitated to post something about MX norfleetish amount of gems and research level when we were at war, but didn't wanted to launch a false accusation, like WL said he could just have been very lucky with sites etc...

I continued to follow this thread just to see if my impression was right. Unfortunately it was.

Re: LA Game - Victoria - Running
 

I had good intel on TC from very early on and got suspicious by seeing the composition of his armies, the spells he had available from early on. I kept telling myself its not fair to think like that and that he may have had great luck, income etc. However as the game progressed the inconsistency between what a nation that controls that many provinces at that stage of the game could output vs. what TC had going became staggering (to my judgment of course).

I would have said nothing anyway and let MX win just so as not to make a false accusation. However the crashed host, combined with the fact that TC turn had caused that crash due to illegal move or something caused all the alarm bells in my head to start ringing, the rest was handled by the capable hands of llama and JK.

I'm sorry this wasn't discovered earlier or I'm sure his war against you would have ended differently (remember, I came to your help, but against his hordes you stood no chance).

There's good end to that story as JK will tighten security in next patch :)

Re: LA Game - Victoria - Running
 

how do I go about getting a sub for Rlyeh?

Re: LA Game - Victoria - Running
 

You'll have to open a thread for this, I guess.
Maybe also ask Jazzepi some delays if you don't have time to play the next turns. It can be very annoying to stale when you're at war ^^

PS : and wow, it's the first time I see a Vastness in action. Tremendous. R'lyeh will be very difficult to repell of you have some SC like these... (and the Visitor is not cool neither :doh::))

Re: LA Game - Victoria - Running
 

Dont know about the rest of you but Ive never had such a pathetic gem income in any of the games Ive ever played. At least my income isnt that bad.

Re: LA Game - Victoria - Running
 

Jazzepi, can you please postpone hosting by 24h?

TIA

Re: LA Game - Victoria - Running
 

Done.

Jazzepi

Re: LA Game - Victoria - Running
 

Strange. Server still gives same time for hosting:
"
Game: Victoria
Turn number 60
Next turn due: 20:12 GMT on Wednesday October 15th
"

Re: LA Game - Victoria - Running
 

Tried again.

"Hosting postponed for Victoria by 24 hours. The game will now host at 20:12 GMT on Thursday October 16th.

Please note that this information will not be updated on the game status page for a few minutes.

Return to game page "

Jazzepi

Re: LA Game - Victoria - Running
 

Xanatos has informed me that he will not be able to complete the game. He has been involved in an accident and has fractured his spine.

Do you think its possible to find a sub for him at this stage of the game?- If so, we'll need to pause the game for a few days to give this attempt a chance.

Re: LA Game - Victoria - Running
 

Ouch :sick:
Sorry for him. I hope he's not too badly wounded...

As for the sub, the only way to know is to try. The other option is to set R'lyeh to AI. This will be the second AI in the game, and the 2 AI have very strong positions. Can be interesting also. Anyway, the game balance is messed after TC cheats, then I don't really care to have a standard game now. I'm just playing the last Victoria stages as test runs for my first Jomon build.

And I can tell you this build was not so good :re:

Re: LA Game - Victoria - Running
 

Agreed. Gave it a shot there.

Jazzepi, if we do manage to get a sub I think he'll require a few more days to get up to speed.

Re: LA Game - Victoria - Running
 

I indefinitely postponed hosting (added 1000 hours) so you guys will have time to look for a sub.

We'll go back to whatever the regular scheulde is after you guys either find a sub or decide to put ry'leh to AI.

Jazzepi

Re: LA Game - Victoria - Running
 

Thank you Jazzepi.

I suggest to give it a shot for a few days. At worst case we turn R'lyeh AI (which I assume will lead to late night parties at Bogarus and Jomon cities ;) ).

Re: LA Game - Victoria - Running
 

Due to Ryleths strong domain all my army leaders are partying all the time now anyway... everyone is wearing a fancy hat already now.

Re: LA Game - Victoria - Running
 

LOL :)

They can join the parties at the Naga Spirit asylum, where many Patala commanders either choose to or are forced to stay.

Re: LA Game - Victoria - Running
 

Wraithlord, would you be interested in taking over the admin duties from me? I need to start getting ready for my trip to Germany, and having less responsibilities will be helpful.

Jazzepi

Re: LA Game - Victoria - Running
 

NP. Have a nice trip :)

Re: LA Game - Victoria - Running
 

Good news. We have a sub for R'lyeh. Welcome aboard Bwaha. I hope you'll have a good game.

Jazzepi I've PMed you with his email, could you please set it in server?

I suggest to give Bwaha some time to digest his first turn, then return to normal schedule.

Re: LA Game - Victoria - Running
 

Oh, ok, got your PM Jazzepi. I'll assume admin responsibilities as of now (sounds important ;))

Re: LA Game - Victoria - Running
 

Brought back next hosting to this week:
"The game will now host at 12:13 GMT on Saturday October 25th."

Re: LA Game - Victoria - Running
 

Hello all,:doh: I just asked for a turn resend from Llama server. I'm looking forward to a fun game, I'm sure I will learn a lot. And do some schooling too. :D

Re: LA Game - Victoria - Running
 

Okay got it, took a brief glance at the Rylah empire. Very strange. I guess when you sub for someone you get a glimpse into that persons thoughts.
Ok, why have you guys allowed Tein Chi to put all those Globals? No slur intended, mind you. Next I would ask for the gems to put down the wrath of god.
Could you guys post the international agreements? I can tell who my allies are, at least I think so. Its easy to tell whom my enemies are.
Speaking of hats. I ask a boon, Send me a hat, I don't care which hat you send, because We are mad as a hatter. Bwaha ha ha, oops... :D

PS. It will take a day to unravel this set up. Please be patient, although I'm really fast. I've played war games for the last 35 years. Heh, Professional skill: War gaming 8 :D

Re: LA Game - Victoria - Running
 

Guys, I'll be on a long weekend vacation between 10/31 - 03/11. I'd like postpone hosting at this time so that I don't stale.

Re: LA Game - Victoria - Running
 

Well, I've submitted my turn. Let the world stand in awe of the might of the resurgent empire of Rylah...:D

Re: LA Game - Victoria - Running
 

I can't keep from sharing this screen with you :D
Meet Just Another TC Scout:
http://www.picamatic.com/show/2008/1...9_bigthumb.jpg

Re: LA Game - Victoria - Running
 

Wonderful. I guess such a boosted IA will be a real challenge for his unfortunate neighbours. ;)

BTW, here is in the east, we have to deal with R'lyeh and that nation also makes his neighbours unfortunates !

I think I'm going to open a "Is LA R'lyeh overpowered ?" thread :D

Re: LA Game - Victoria - Running
 

If you saw the battles I was in you would sadly shake your head and say no. :D

Re: LA Game - Victoria - Running
 

You may be right in facts, but is there any way to stop hostile propaganda ? :p

I've not yet read my turn. This night I guess. More facts/propaganda ASAP :angel

Re: LA Game - Victoria - Running
 

Man, I hope llama gets back soon---getting pretty sick of the email every hour about my turn being resent

Re: LA Game - Victoria - Running
 

Bah. Just set a filter and the appropriate rules in your mail client. Against a mad automaton, automatisation is the only solution :p

Re: LA Game - Victoria - Running
 

It seems like the previous turn has hosted. However I've sent two turns to the server. First one was a half done turn (sent on the 29/10) and a second one (sent on the 30/10) complete with my orders.

Unfortunately the server has hosted with my half done turn causing me a catastrophic turn :(

I will go ahead and ask Llama for rehosting with my second turn file. I will not send a new turn file of course, I'll just ask for rehosting with my updated file what should have happened anyway if not for the server crashing.

Re: LA Game - Victoria - Running
 

ok, I've reported this at the thread about llamaserver down.
A way to fix the issue was presented there - to rollback to previous turn.

From Llamaserver's description of rollback:

Quote:
"
This will cause the game to return to the previous turn.

Note that I generally recommend not doing this. The main reason for this is the fact that players have already seen the current turn, and so they know what would happen given the set of moves they used last time. Hence, consciously or not, they are very likely to use this information to change their actions next time they submit a turn. Even assuming none of the players' actions are affected, there will always be a suspicion in the mind of the other players if battles turn out significantly differently. Therefore just in the interest of having the game feel completely fair, I think rollbacks are a bad idea.

Having said that, there are situations where rollbacks are called for, which is why I've included the option here.

Read this next bit carefully. I seem to be having difficulties explaining it coherently:

Note that once the game is rolled back, it will appear that the game is waiting for 2h files from all players. However, the 2h files from last time the turn was played will in fact be there, and will be used if the game hosts without them being overwritten. This can be useful; often, a game is rehosted in order for only one or two players to retake their turns, while everyone else is expected to make no changes. The game admin can therefore wait till just those players have submitted, and then force hosting. None of the other players will stale (assuming they actually submitted a 2h file last time the turn was played).
"

So I would like to go ahead an rollback to previous turns. Those players who have had their turn files sent correctly this time should take no action. Although the server will report its waiting for their .2h files, the original files they sent are saved in the server and will be used.
Those players who had issues or errors with the turns they sent due to the server problems should resubmit the turn.

I would like to here your opinions before I rollback.

Re: LA Game - Victoria - Running
 

I received a new turn from Llamma Server. Should I disregard it? As far as a roll back, I staled the turn before, so I await further instruction. Thanks.:D

Re: LA Game - Victoria - Running
 

OK. So unless I hear any objections I'll rollback the turn this evening.
This means that you can disregard your new turn.

Re: LA Game - Victoria - Running
 

ok then. hold tight - rolling turn back.

Re: LA Game - Victoria - Running
 

I didn't send any orders last turn since the llamaserver was broken. I thought we will receive some wrning before the hosting... I am therefore a strong supporter of the rollback option.

[edit : oops, too late. Well... :re:]

Re: LA Game - Victoria - Running
 

We will have to wait for the server to be fixed. Currently the rollback option is not working. I've tried it for like three times but it doesn't do anything.

Re: LA Game - Victoria - Running
 

It seems like the server cached my request for rollback, didn't show any sign its rolling back and then all of a sudden rolled three turns back.
I'm really sorry for this :(

I will PM llama and ask if its possible to set game back to turn 64. Please do not delete the "Victoria: Rolled back to turn 64" emails you got as you would need those turns in case the server is set back to turn 64.

I will keep you posted and hope this unfortunate affair is resolved quickly.

Re: LA Game - Victoria - Running
 

Still no ansewr from llama.

According to the server's documentaion I could just force host back to 64, since the original 2h files are saved on the server. Ain't got nothing to lose since at worst we roll back to 62.

Re: LA Game - Victoria - Running
 

So should we submit turn 64?

Re: LA Game - Victoria - Running
 

Frankly I'm not sure this will work. However, llama did say he is very busy ATM and I'm sure he has had enough on his plate what with the server down and all this.

My rational is that if indeed that server keeps the .2h file then if I were to force host turn 62 the hosing will work ok. Meaning no one will need to resubmit and no one will stale.
I'm not sure this will work for turn 63. This is b/c the second hosting of turn 62 will, even though using same orders, inevitably have different results than the first hosting (due to random events, close battles ending differently etc). This in turn may cause force hosting of turn 63 to yield unexpected and probably undesired effects.

In any case submitting turn 64 now will not work. The server will probably reject your file.

I'll try to amend this one step at a time. First host to turn 63. Then I'll check with you if files were generated ok (no stales or such).
Then force host to 64. This step is more likely to fail in my opinion but anyway its one turn better than 62.

Re: LA Game - Victoria - Running
 

I am not in that game, but I wouldn't recommend it. Turn 63 results will be certainly different [at least random events] and it will mess unit IDs, so if someone submits old turn 63 it can mess things up [really mess it up, like people getting some new commanders, some batles that shouldn't happen, mess with province ownership]. So if you do it be aware that you everyone will have to do turn 63 again.