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I agree, lets just roll forward

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There is not an option to roll forward, however, I guess Llamaserver still retains all the files for turn 28. Therefore, we need MadFrancis to PM Llamabeast to roll the turn forward.

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Nah, the game admin can just force hosting, no need to bug llamabeast.

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Someone already posted turn, we would not want that to change anything...

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I agree, we should strive to have the same turn as we had before if possible.

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Lanka submitted a turn though. No way to tell if he changed anything.

Jazzepi

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Huh, yeah, should I check my mail archives to find old turn? Just changed one thing, but kept all orders at Yomi the same [so my army will be slaughtered trying to siege his fort].

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yes we should all have the same old turn

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Rytek:

Hmm... what did you change with your turn? Attack on 87? Cause smth stopped my storming of your fort [I can even let llamabeast check my .2h file to check if storm orders were there, but I changed nothing]

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I changed nothing.
I have to say that I was really enjoying this game even though I am a huge underdog. It really looks like you took the oppurtunity to change your turn. And that is just a shame. I will be looking for a replacement. I don't consider myself a spoil sport. And I fight losing positions down to my last tooth and nail as Baalz can attest to as with my first MP game as EA Argatha I fought him down to my last capitol province last year. But, I refuse to spend hours of my time and play with a cheater. And unfortunately, thats what it looks like to me. I apologize if you did not cheat, but without evidence-- the proof is there. You attacked first time and had your army take 80% casulties. After rollback no attack...

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Rytek:

For me some values are more important than victory. Name a compensation and you will get it. I can give you my nation to play if you'd want. I don't evade consequences of bad moves [and storming your fort was one]. PM me if you prefer that way.

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As much as I hate to bug Llamabeast again and again after all he's already done for us, I find it hard to go on without knowing the truth of it. An accusation of cheating is as bad as it can get for the fun of a game. And without fun...

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Okay. Unfortunately Zeldor seems to have accidentally cancelled his storming orders. I've known him long enough to be sure it was an accident, and anyway it would have been the stupidest cheat in the world because it was so obvious. So just a bit unfortunate I'd say. So anyway, I've rolled back _again_. Unfortunately I can't host back forward to turn 28 because I can't find Tir na n'Og's 2h file. Maybe it was never received.

Anyway, MadFrancis, I've postponed the turn so Jazzepi has plenty of time to get his turn in. When you come to force host it, please make sure no-one else has submitted a 2h file. If they have, let me know and I'll just swap it back for the one they were using before.

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I will take your word for it. I am back in. No hard feelings. Accidental and overlooked orders have happened to me enough to know that it does happend. I apologize for my strong use of the word "cheat". I was astounded at how blantent the action was. And Zeldor must have a strong reputation because I was the one called to question several times.
Anyway, back to having fun. And to looking forward to sticking my finger in the eye of the beast that is Lanka...

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cheers :)

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Huh, well, sorry for that. My offer to you Rytek is still valid - you can take over my nation, Lanka is not my favourite one. [sending turn with storm orders that turn]

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Hmmm, didn't llamabeast say no one but TNO send in a turn? Why did Lanka send in a turn again?

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I would say he had to if he wanted to storm that fort again.

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I can't submit my turn! My host file is corrupted D:

Just host the game to the next turn. One that doesn't have any problems.

Jazzepi

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Apology accepted. Don't be silly, I don't want your position. I enjoy playing underdog nations more than powerhouses like Lanka or Hinnom.

Honestly, the biggest thing I am bent about was that I lost my 18 N gem random event from the first go around. And of course I was enjoying the fact that you were underestimating the Oni kings. Sadly, both are gone now.

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All that for that and we only have our eyes to cry or our mouth to laugh like madmen...

Anyway, MadFrancis can now host and we can only pray for the battles to end the same and fate to be kind on us ;)

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Sigh. Ok, Now you changed your combat orders for your troops. You placed your Demons way up instead of having them back like before. You set your archers to fire on large creatures instead of fire archers. The outcome was nearly the same on your side. You still lost 80%. But firing large creatures netted you a few of the snake sorcerers I had mixed in with my Oni kings. 5 to be exact. Where you didnt get them before. But, whatever.

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afaik archers were not scripted at all, I think that on replay your mages got trampled by routing elephants

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I was suggesting we use the original turn 28 file, but whatever. Still I wonder why Lanka had to send in a new turn file. The original 2h was there. Even without changing combat orders, other things can be changed to advantages, like remote site searching. Also it looks like Lanka grabbed one more province than old turn 28? Maybe random events?

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I do have the old file to compare to you know.
First fight your Demons are back---Right along side the archers. First fight I figured you would do this as every fight we have had your demons are back. The Gorilla longbows fire at my armored shortbows on my right flank. I placed my elephants in front and set to charge out the gate because I guessed(correctly the first fight) that they would make it out and your demons would slaghter them with your quickness bless and none would get away to trample my rear.

The second fight your longbows are definetly shooting into my rear ranks where I put the Oni kings. Fire large monster. And there is no question on this---you moved your demons up and set them to charge first round. Thus stuffing my elephants in the gate.
Since I do not want to do this AGAIN. Lanka, your penance shall be sending YOMI 1000 Gold (Thats 5 snake sorcers) AND 9N gems(Thats half of my special event which you had nothing to do with. You can think of it as punitive measure) Mess your orders up once and its an accident. Change them again and things are really smelling fishy.
Or, you can beg Llammabeast to rollback and then host with the original turn files.

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Uh-oh. I smell cheatzor.

Jazzepi

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Rytek, can you provide some screenshots, or video of the battles side by side?

Jazzepi

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OK, I take back my words. Indeed if no 2h was sent in, the 2h from last time was used (in Lanka's case, modified 2h file with no castle assault). Anyway, I wonder if Llamaserver keeps the original turn 28 files. That would be the best and most fair one to use.

To turn back turn again to 27 then force host solves nothing, since it is the most recent version of 2h that is used.

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umm, I really am a dunce when it comes to screen shots and videos. I suppose I could email the two different 2h files to someone and have them take a look---- it really is plain as day that the orders were changed. I looked again. Actually, his sacred demons start BEHIND his longbows on hold and attack orders in the first fight.

On the second fight all his sacreds are crowded right up into the entrece with attack orders.

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oh please, not AGAIN.
I'm tired of all these unannounced rollbacks :doh:

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Aaaagh! This game is getting ridiculous!

Right, I am going to roll back yet again, then force host with the original 2h files, then you can all get back to normal.

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Apologies, I had typed that post but forgotten to hit "Reply" when I did the rollback.

All should be good and back to normal now.

This does almost make me wonder if I should remove the rollback option. Because it always seems like a good idea, and rarely is. Still, I suppose it is genuinely useful from time to time, so I will leave it in.

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Just slap some google goggles on that page.

http://gmailblog.blogspot.com/2008/1...you-later.html

Jazzepi

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Genius.

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I can't remember a rollback that went well. Even under the best circumstances, somebody get frustrated because they got a good random event the first time, or a lucky break in a battle. In fact, I'm gonna go ahead and say I think every rollback I've been involved in ended up making the game worse off than if we had just gone forward without it, by the logic that we're all just playing this game for fun so the worst thing we can do is piss people off, make people think they were treated unfairly, etc.

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Thankyou Llammabeast for taking the time to fix this.

This had nothing to do with me being upset about a rollback. Yes, I had a better combat the first go around, and yes I had a super nifty Gem event the first go around. But I am reasonable and realize game host was trying to help Jazzeppi when it wasnt really his fualt for missing his turn.

This had everything to do with Zeldor changing his orders. Twice.

Anyway, lets continue with the game.

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Looks like Jazzepi is about to stale again. I wonder if the new turn is also corrupt?

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I rarely stale on time, but I take as much as I'm given when I need to.

Jazzepi

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My apologies. :) Just wondering if the new turn was bad again.

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Don't worry, if nothing else, I know how to complain LOUDLY :rant::rant:

Jazzepi

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lol

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Postponed by 24 hours at Konming's request.

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yeah, what he said.

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speaking of which ... who wants to admin now, I am nearly out of the game.

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I can admin, just PM me the pass.

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right-o.

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Could I get 24h more for that turn? We have national holiday in Poland today.

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I meant for previous turn, Baalz :) I managed to did it fast, I don't need 24h more for next turn.

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Alright, Tyrant is taking over R'yleh for me, who can admin now?

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I can admin Baalz.