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sorry guys it's been fun but i think i may go ai, i can't see me being much of a contender in this one and seing as i am having to pick up the pieces now from pythium i think it's getting a bit boring,

i've been wanting to give TC a go in MP but i need to clear some time into my timetable.

sorry guys cya.

Edit: can our gracious admin send me ai, can't be bothered to re send turn and it's alot less work for you :P

Re: Buggy- LA - Llama server - Send in your Pretenders
 

Well it's your call, I will set you to AI for the next turn unless I find a sub.

Also any news on Midgard?

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No, it's a lot more work for the admin, because the llamaserver "Set AI" function just tells you to go find someone who'll take the turn... then once you've found someone willing to do this for you, you need to update the email to their account, then resend them the turn, then they need to set the nation AI and submit the turn.

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yeah, can you please set yourself AI if you really want to go that way Nikelaos? Been fun playing with you, sorry to see you go

I think we need to find a midgard sub before this game just dies

Re: Buggy- LA - Llama server - Send in your Pretenders
 

I PM'd Midgard and no answer.

Honestly, I just attacked Pythium because Atlantis wanted to continue so we made a line and i'm off and running....EXCEPT for one thing Now I have Atlantis as AI on my unprotecrted back and I have to battle BOTH of them.

NOW, lets throw in Midgard who I do have a 5 turn Nap with so I have a relative poor Defense agianst bordering Provinces. He goes AI and now I am at war with 3 nations and not enough armies.

This game is great but this is the ONE thing I hate about it.

We are in it around 2 months and all of a sudden I go from fairly secure and long range plans ...to at war with 2 or 3 folks because they dissaper.

C'tis...Congrats for hanging in there, your a trooper.

If we don't hear from Midgard soon we all need to figure out what we want to do.

Sorry, but this has happened in my last 3 games and when I am the one getting drubbed I at least try and raid and make someone take 2 or 3 armies to trap and destroy me. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr:(

There, I feel better now

Re: Buggy- LA - Llama server - Send in your Pretenders
 

I share your pain! It's definitely the most frustrating thing in this game, I'm a big believer in not going AI until you're literally 1.5 feet in the grave. We need a sub for midgard, not AI. Likewise for me when I go on holidays. A major nation going AI is just bad news.

Re: Buggy- LA - Llama server - Send in your Pretenders
 

I made a sub request thread for both Atlantis and Midgard.

We'll see what we see, maybe C'tis would like to go AI and take over Midgard?

Its still alot of fighting, but at least it gives the chance for revenge on the two nations who took down C'tis.

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That would be ok with me....I've seen it done in other games and since they are familiar with the players and situations they generally do pretty well....Just PLEASE honor treaties already made...(LOL):D

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My apologies for the stale, but i have to withdraw from this game. My business trip took longer than i thought and i was unable to get internet access, even when im back now i still have alot unfinished work to do. It has been a good game so far and i hope i will play you guys again soon.

Nozshand, midgard

Re: Buggy- LA - Llama server - Send in your Pretenders
 

Sorry to hear that nozshand, but understood.

I'm sure we'll all see each other elsewhere and remember who did what to whom ;)

Err...

Maybe you should just forget this game then...

;)

Re: Buggy- LA - Llama server - Send in your Pretenders
 

well i'll leave it a turn to see if you get someone else, if not i'll go ai.

Re: Buggy- LA - Llama server - Send in your Pretenders
 

Well we're not getting anywhere with any subs so what does everyone want to do???

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Honestly, If we have all those bailing out.... it really does put me in a situation that would be a nightmare of not my making to continue.

Declare a winner if you want as I know its not me and I will agree.

I am open to suggestions but it really is a bad deal.


LICKER, I have been wanting to ask you...In a EA game as Fomoria How would you design your pretender and scales.

I have NEVER played them although they look like fun and I was assigned them by chance.

Eveything I have read has been somewhat at odds with each other.

So as I respect your knowledge I thought I would ask you....:D

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Heh...

Well thanks for the question, but I've never played Formoria other than maybe once or twice just to look at the units...

I will go ahead and take a look if you want me to, but first, what are your thoughts on how you want to/think they should be designed?

As to the status of this game...

We can set Atlantis to AI without too much heartache I think (well none for me :p), but midgard going AI would be a big headache to Agartha, maybe...

I thought Pythium going AI was going to be an issue for me, but other than the AI putting up some armies on the border they have done nothing hostile towards me. Likely since they are already warring with Atlantis and Pythium.

So while it may not be a perfect solution, it probably wouldn't lead to immediate attacks on Agartha since Utgard and Ulm are already in the thick of it with Midgard.

I admit I'm interested to see how my late game strategies will play out however this gets resolved, I'm also interested to see how the diplomacy amongst Utgard, Agartha, and Ulm would play out assuming we all stick to more or less our current arrangements (speaking for Ulm only, I don't know what or if Utgard and Agartha have in agreements).

So I guess that means I'm voting to continue the game, with midgard, atlantis, and Pythium as AI, for at least a little while.

I'll still give it through saturday, but at that point if we've not heard anything I will find someone to set midgard to AI.

Re: Buggy- LA - Llama server - Send in your Pretenders
 

you realise I'm less than a week away from leaving too? would either need to fins a sub for utgard, or be stuck with another AI :(

Re: Buggy- LA - Llama server - Send in your Pretenders
 

ok...i will hang in there and we will see what happens:)

Re: Buggy- LA - Llama server - Send in your Pretenders
 

Yeah...

This thing may fall apart, or GB and I may just slug it out vs a hoard of AIs...

I dunno.

Pity.

Re: Buggy- LA - Llama server - Send in your Pretenders
 

yeah, its been a really fun game :(

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I've just posted looking for a sub, i leave for holidays in 3.5 days. Hope someone is interested, would hate to leave you guys surrounded by AI, would really ruin the game dynamics :( regardless I'll get at least one more turn in.

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Heh, thanks for sticking in there dragar.

Though if you go AI I don't know who it affects the most.

While I'm glad the game will move again, I'm sad that there won't be a 'legit' victory against the mages of Midgard (though my attempts in 'removing' them are working pretty well).

I'm looking at this now since I'm so big as a chance to see how well I can deal with multiple fronts, even if against a slightly predictable AI.

Midgard already is reacting to my forces (so hopefully Agartha doesn't have to deal with him), and I've stepped up my attempts to take down his income and even siege a couple forts.

I'm going to open things up on Pythium as well since he's massing more forces on my border and my forces in C'tisian lands are now freed up to relocate elsewhere.

So ideally I'll wind up with at least one safe border with Agartha, and hopefully Utgard won't leave any armies on our borders (not like he has any now...) for the AI to misuse.

I should also point out to Agartha that while I do have a pile of units on our border in my fort they are being generated there to transfer via a node, it's just a matter of getting the right commanders there to lead them and I've been pushing my research so much lately that I haven't taken the time to move them yet.

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Thanks for that Loicker...

I assumed that was more than likely the case as it makes NO sense to fight EVERYONE (LOL).

I am trying to take out Atlantis NOW so he can't be a splinter in my behind, but Pythium is building up right in that area. If he waits 2 more turns I have about 150 Nemedians arriving. I will leave Midgard to you as you indicated that you had some things you wanted to try.

Utgard pull your armies to your core and then the AI can do what he wants.


I have a question....When you have Nemidians and a nemidian Commander you have all stealth troops.

I have never dealt with stealth troops so I ask this....can I move into a province without initiating a battle or will it give me the option 'to attack' or not?:confused:

Re: Buggy- LA - Llama server - Send in your Pretenders
 

If you move them the order should default to 'sneak' which means they will not initiate combat, though if they are 'found' combat will start.

If you want them to move and attack, you hold down the ctrl key when clicking on their destination and their order should show 'move'.

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Thank you for the info....

1 more question on stealth troops.....I'm sure its in the manual, but I sure can't find it.

How do my troops get FOUND if on sneak?

If a province has a unit on Patrol?

Size of army would be more thematic as a huge army going thru an area would make a lot of commotion ect.

Or is it just luck of the draw?

(I would like to know in case I play a stealth race myself..lol):)

Re: Buggy- LA - Llama server - Send in your Pretenders
 

I don't know the exact formula, but if you look at the stealth icon for your units it will have a number from 0 up to 30(?)...

Higher is better for the sneakers.

Size of force sneaking does affect it as well though.

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Well it looks like we are down to three...

I'm not sure what the Giant AI will decide to do, but it could be a serious wrench in my plans :)

Anyway, Pythiums capitol has fallen, and we continue the march onto Midgards capitol meeting little resistance.

C'tis is establishing a new homeland, it remains to be seen how succesful they ultimately are with that though.

Ulmish research is reaching new heights though, and may be able to rival that of Midgard one of these days.

I'm not sure if Agartha has any kind of upsetting endgame planed though, hopefully he does just to keep things interesting. Ulm has managed to diversify it's abilities though, so we are prepared for whatever the future might hold.

Well not really prepared if Utgard attacks along our borders, but not much can be done about that :p

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I talked to C'tis and as he is not ready to abandon us and the game I have taken a NAP with him and gave him back the Province I had taken from him.

Atlantis is down to about 3 Provinces and 1 Fort (but its in the dang water) but I believe C'tis can go in water so I will leave that to him.

Pythium is starting to fall quickly and I was looking at Midgard...However with Utgard being AI and on my soft underbelly also.....This game could get REAL interesting!!!

As far as end game plans..LOL, I am trying to get thru the mid game right now.:doh:

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After years of searching and research tan ancient ulmish prophesy has finally been restored!

The forge of the ancients has been discovered, at great cost, but now the forge priests of ulm will truly be able to forge as their ancestors once did.

In other news, Utgard has begun minor attacks on ulmish positions in Midgard. Whether this is the beginning of a larger war, of just squabbling over soon to be conquered lands remains to be seen.

Also the fortresses of Pythium are fast falling to invading ulmish armies with a massive vanguard of freaks and various deformed monstrosities. Many of these monsters are indeed poison immune, so even while the Pythian capitol lies in ulmish hands, and thus, no more hydae can be spwaned, the mages of pythium still seem to enjoy spewing all sort of foul vapors.

Our scouts are also in position to watch the end of Atlants, and or C'tis, certainly once our forces have pushed aside the remains of Pythium these two nations will begin to draw our attention once again, even as we are engaged in a tedious and resource draining war with Midgard.

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Sorry for me slowing down the pace again...

Busy here and these turns take FOREVER.

Let me know if it's too slow, I'm looking at 2 turns a week or so.

Re: Buggy- LA - Llama server - Send in your Pretenders
 

Thats OK with me....2 turns a week is fine:D

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Ossa-

I will agree to a CF with you since I agree, this game is over, and now we are just having some fun.

I will take the provinces next to your old capitol and otherwise leave you to duke it out with Utgard south of there.

I'm about to finish blood9 research to go along with alteration and construction at 9, mostly just to play around with the high level spells.

I've got a couple dozen clams and probably 30 blood stones, so my gem income is actually higher than shown on the chart, also I'm getting 100-150 blood slaves a turn, and haven't even bothered to optimize my hunting, otherwise I could probably pull in over 200 easilly.

I've got huge armies of cross breed creatures backed with my xbows, and supplimented with my cavalry. I've got 10+ counts running around, I've got 6 or so vampire lords making normal vampires to escort them, I've got a golem, I've got 2 arch devils and one father illearth.

I've got artifacts, I've got...

Yeah you get it...

Fun game though unfortunately Midgard going AI when he did just allowed me to run over him with little resistance. Utgard going AI didn't really matter unless he was planning to stab me with Midgard, but I don't think that was his plan.

Agartha and I had good relations all along, though very little interaction otherwise.

Unfortunately for C'tis he got double teamed (or triple teamed if you count atlantis) and didn't really stand a chance, I was more geared up to attack Pythium, but frankly he didn't look very threatening so I kept my agreements with him rather than giving him the 3 turn notice. Besides Utgard was unhappy with the heat loving lizards :)

I really enjoyed this map as well, the nodes made for interesting decisions, and made no one really able to turtle. I don't think they are overpowered either for their sites, though they can give you a tad of an early boost if you get to one you really need.

I'll keep going for a while, just to finish of Pythium and midgard, and for Agartha and I to set up some kind of battle royale between our armies, mostly just for the fireworks which would come out of it :)

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I'm out. I cant even defend against Utgard AI with such a bad position;)


You did a great job in this game, though I wished we would have been allies. Then I might have defended my lands from those giants.