Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Upload Pretenders!
 

That's a bit misleading, considering how few nations available were not on our list. ;)

However, the whole exercise was probably a bit silly in the first place, since people were picking based on what they felt like playing, and we were guessing what would have been most optimal.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Upload Pretenders!
 

woohoo I'm an additional

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Upload Pretenders!
 

Umm, upload pretenders time???

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Upload Pretenders!
 

I'm surprised you had Ulm, Agartha, Van, Abysia, and Yomi ahead of Lanka. I'd think Lanka is easily better than those nations.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Upload Pretenders!
 

Ulm was a big favorite pick as team-forger.


Yeah for real - whats the holdup on pretender uploads?

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Upload Pretenders!
 

If I had been playing in this game, I would have taken either Yomi or Marverni :D. I think both would have been more or less ideal choices for this game.

Also, only 4 pretenders uploaded is surprisingly low. Come on guys, it's the weekend, this is the best time to do this.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Upload Pretenders!
 

well I thought we were suppose to play Orania, and last I looked it said Desert Eye

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Upload Pretenders!
 

The map has been updated. But that doesn't really matter. I used the old map just to get the game open and let people start uploading their pretenders.

I think I'll upload my pretender now, in case my Internet goes out at home.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Upload Pretenders!
 

Speaking for the Vets team, we would like to request a new starting position for our water nation. It is not reasonable to place it in a position where it effectively has only two connecting provinces for resource purposes. Don't misunderstand, we understand that as the sole water nation in the game, it may follow that Atlantis gets a poorer start. But two provs is just not acceptable. And if you add onto that the fact that his position makes it a real possibility that he could be dominion-killed by his teammates it just goes beyond the bounds of fairness.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Upload Pretenders!
 

There were few options with regard to placing the water nation that did not place them too close for my comfort to the noobs. The few that did, did not have many neighbors either. The water nation was placed primarily to forstall any hostile action from them,and as they are the wildcard in the game, being able to attack anywhere at will (whereas the land nations are far enough apart to prevent this). Hence, the NAP.

At this point, rather than causing more delays, I'd prefer that you make the best of it understanding that others also have less than ideal placement. I didn't think it a big deal really. However, I'll take a second look and see if there is any other possible place that suits us both, as I don't want any accusations of unfairness and want everyone to be happy. If it turns out, I see none, I'll give Atul a choice of a centralized (supporting role) starting position on land as an alternative. Though once again, I'd prefer not to have to re-up another map. Atul, does have the sea to himself, and is a vet afterall.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Upload Pretenders!
 

And as I said before, we understand that you want to give the water nation a weak placement. There is no objection to that. But two connecting provinces? Its crazy - I mean, would you be ok with only two connecting provs to your cap? Crippled resources aside, what if they were both knights or something?

Yeah please do take another look. Its not a total deal-breaker to not have this but it does feel disproportionate to the advantage of a single water nation.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Upload Pretenders!
 

Water castles don't draw resources from surrounding land provinces, nor do land castles draw from water. To put the problem in perspective, in most games provs with only 2 resource connections are set no start, and if someone got placed there, it can be legitimate grounds for requesting a restart. You say that other nations have less than ideal positions, but the only one land position with only 2 connections is the island in the middle of the ocean. Would you be fine if we could pick one of your nations to start there?

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Upload Pretenders!
 

I would suggest taking a look at the map and providing septimius with one or two province numbers that you deem more fair, it would probably be faster than having him look for a new one.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Upload Pretenders!
 

I already provided him with few I would be happy with quite near the original one, but he declined. Me being too threatening an all that.

Oh well, this is silly and going nowhere. I'll just have to be a lot more aggressive than I intended thanks to the position. Lets get the game started, already 13 pretenders up.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Upload Pretenders!
 

We need our water nation to be in a good locale. 2 provs seems not enough to me. I request a re-emplacement.

And, umm, Sept? I go on vacation in one month. Could you call your people, and let's get this thing started?

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Upload Pretenders!
 

Though I hate cluttering the server with more map files (I'll have to ask Llama to remove the last two), I see I'll have no choice. After looking at the map, I've given Atul another starting position with 3 water provs that should be fair enough for both sides.

No more changes. Let's get those remaining pretenders in.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Upload Pretenders!
 

Thanks Sept.

Now that out of the way, lets get started.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Upload Pretenders!
 

Amen. Let's get it started.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Upload Pretenders!
 

sorry for delay

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Upload Pretenders!
 

Jachra (Tien Chi) is the only one out now

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Upload Pretenders!
 

I've yet to recieve a response from Jachra to my pm's. It appears we may need to switch in an alternate for T'ien Chi. I don't want to delay this much longer.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Upload Pretenders!
 

Took over TC. Let's rock.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Upload Pretenders!
 

And so it begins. Mysterio will have his revenge.

Though, honestly, Mysteria never even got hurt in the last game, and would probably have killed thousands before she went down. But I'm cool with Sept's backstory. It's pretty fitting, considering all her allies were dying.

And Mysterio, (though god only knows why he loved a Gorgon), will be kicking *** and taking names in this game.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Upload Pretenders!
 

Eh? Didn't pyg's wyrm get in a good bite or two? It may never be known what exactly happened to Mysteria, as records of those final days of the first great war have been lost in the obscuring mists of time.

P3D is set up in Jachra's place now on the noob forum, so as far as I know everything is in place and this game should actually get moving.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Upload Pretenders!
 

Yeah, now that you mention it, I think she did get pretty badly wounded. But with the recuperation of the Gorgon, it was not a big deal.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Upload Pretenders!
 

Looks like Noobs vs Vets II: Team "we have a better forum" vs Team #Dominions is up and running.

Good luck to both sides with your indy-stomping.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Upload Pretenders!
 

The noob team really does need a place to organize and a quick way to discuss things. IRC would be faster, but I bet getting everyone on at the same time would be just about impossible.... It probably sounds like all I do is talk about that forum, heh :)

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Upload Pretenders!
 

Ah, glad to hear it. I was getting worried about the game start

Good luck to all! :)

:dagger: And some extra luck to the noobs about to be hideously mauled!! :dagger:

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Upload Pretenders!
 

I was more commenting on that ALL of the vet team, including our alternates, are #Dominions regulars. I have no idea how it ended up that way.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Game running.
 

sorry to ask with all thats happened. but I've just gone through 3 back-up computer cases to get this working. so can you add a couple hours to the first turn. so I can have some time time for finish some of my other works and still get the turn in

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Game running.
 

i'm pretty much only qualified to be an alternate purely based on the ease of communicating with me on IRC not my actual knowledge or execution

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Upload Pretenders!
 

Ah, right. Maybe it was just an easy way for lingchih to recruit people ;)

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Game running.
 

The hosting interval is currently set to 32 hours, the game will host Friday 2:20 PM GMT, let me know if you will need more time than this.

Though of course, I was hoping we could all get at least our first turn in ahead of schedule.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Game running.
 

Too big of a game Sept. Every turn will take the maximum hours.

And yes, I could go on about how the first turn takes like 5 minutes to do. But it would do no good.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Game running.
 

ahh 32 hours. was think it was 24 hours and apparently took 25 till I finally got to it. well atleast I'm not the last to get my turn in

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Game running.
 

Yada yada yada...

- boring or empty talk, often used interjectionally especially in recounting words regarded as too dull or predictable to be worth repeating.

Yes, I know all about it.

I hearby charge you Lingchih with the task of sending out PM's too all late submitters for the first 10 turns. That oughta keep ya busy.

I hope Mysterio is slaughtered soon, then hopefully your ramblings will cease.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Game running.
 

Well it's only C'tis and Vanheim left.

Time to apply the pressure.

*applies the pressure*

Okay, someone else actually do something productive.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Game running.
 

FYI, I just thought I'd let everyone know that I discovered the Throne of the World in my cap this turn. Can't really beat that for a turn 1.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Game running.
 

Ah, a second Throne, how interesting.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Game running.
 

You want me to send notices to the late submitters to get their turns in Septimius? That's like asking a chocoholic to guard the candy store. Of course I will do it. And probably be quite an a-hole about it.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Game running.
 

Following up on the last post.

Vanheim, wtf? get your turn in dude.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Game running.
 

It worked!

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Game running.
 

Damn straight it worked. Mysterio doesn't take well to slackers.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Game running.
 

Ton of Bricks, King of Many Names?

Nice try, what would it mean if he really had that epithet btw.?

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Game running.
 

In my defense I wasn't the only one to add an extra title (I'm looking at you Lanka).

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Game running.
 

Bravo! Personally, it doesn't matter to me whether my fellow noobs take 5 mins or 31 hours, 59 minutes, and 59 seconds to get their turn in, as long as (certain of them) don't stale within the first 10 turns. That would be detrimental to us and could cost us the initiative. It simply cannot be tolerated. Especially without notice of some kind. I usually don't count the first turn as their are usually no troop movements during it.

Vets, on the other hand, feel free to stale as much as you like. Especially early on. :)

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Game running.
 

Found another site in my cap on turn 2. Mountain of Power - beat that!!

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Game running.
 

Damn, I really need to start searching for my capital for all those cool sites!

But, at least I'm bigger than any of you! Ha!

...now only if I'd find such sites as IH from my capital...

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Game running.
 

Why you looking my way. As for mine Habaek, the Water God. Its a real korean god. And if you ever get a chance to see some of my leaders you'll see more korean names.
Next game I'm thinking my own Maori culture. Though not sure which maori god to use yet.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Game running.
 

Ironhawk, aren't you just frustrated with your capital placed on the Inkpot End?