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Calahan July 8th, 2009 02:19 PM

Re: CarCrash - EA Game - CBM - (Running)
 
Sorry all, I'm going to need a delay here. Still in work, so have no chance of getting home and completing my turn before the imminent hosting.

I've tagged on 24 hours since I'm not even sure when I'll get home from work right now, and the worst case is I might not get a spare moment until tomorrow evening. But it's only my turn outstanding, so will try and get it done first chance I get.

Apologies for the hold-up.

Executor July 9th, 2009 04:57 PM

Re: CarCrash - EA Game - CBM - (Running)
 
Pangaea buying death gems, we offer ANY other kind in return.

PsiSoldier July 9th, 2009 06:12 PM

Re: CarCrash - EA Game - CBM - (Running)
 
Anyone know if Shatter works on Earth Kings? Appearantly TNN got smart at the last second and pulled back his golems otherwise they'd have been dead meat, and I went to all the trouble to setup a nice welcoming committee for them where I thought they'd be going... Not too smart to attack an earth magic nation with things like that, but I guess you figured that out...

Anyways Shatter is supposed to destroy stone and seeing as how Earth kings are made of stone It seems it should work but I dont know it does have that thing in there about lifeless beings.

Eh well, Bring that Earth King on down again Caleum and we'll find out if it works. Assuming I dont just kill it with something else.

You may as well send down your horde of Gargoyls in 162 too, I'm pretty certain they wont last against shatter.

tgbob July 9th, 2009 09:37 PM

Re: CarCrash - EA Game - CBM - (Running)
 
Gargoyles with an E!

tgbob July 15th, 2009 08:00 AM

Re: CarCrash - EA Game - CBM - (Running)
 
I am on 80% cruise control in regards to this game, would anyone hate me if I looked for a permanent substitute?

Zapmeister July 15th, 2009 08:05 AM

Re: CarCrash - EA Game - CBM - (Running)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tgbob (Post 701508)
I am on 80% cruise control in regards to this game, would anyone hate me if I looked for a permanent substitute?

No-one could blame you for that. On the contrary, finding a sub is the best thing you can do when you're not having fun any more.

tgbob July 15th, 2009 08:19 AM

Re: CarCrash - EA Game - CBM - (Running)
 
It's not not having fun, it's the lack of time with my stupid dumb classes taking up all of my time.

Calahan July 15th, 2009 08:37 AM

Re: CarCrash - EA Game - CBM - (Running)
 
Would hate to see you have to drop out of the game after all the time and effort you've put into it tgbob. Would a longer hosting interval help you at all? The game is past turn 60 now, so switching to 60 or 72 hours wouldn't be unheard of for this stage of the game.

It might not have to be permanent either, (since I know there are fans of quick schedules here) as we can always switch back to a quicker interval when/if tgbob gets some more free time. But I would really like to find a way to help tgbob out if it means keeping him in the game, rather than him having to sub out due to a RL time crunch.

PsiSoldier July 16th, 2009 02:33 AM

Re: CarCrash - EA Game - CBM - (Running)
 
Caleum is doomed anyways, I'd hate to have to kill some poor guy that comes in to sub for Caleum but Ive earned a victory here against Caleum so whoever takes over is still going to die.

They may still get a few good turns in though since most of my best forces are geared to be used defensively but that doesnt matter too much.

Calahan July 16th, 2009 02:58 AM

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That's some good confidence on display there PsiSoldier :)

Zapmeister July 16th, 2009 05:57 AM

Re: CarCrash - EA Game - CBM - (Running)
 
Now Executor is looking for a sub as well.
The game is collapsing :(

Calahan July 16th, 2009 07:36 AM

Re: CarCrash - EA Game - CBM - (Running)
 
Losing one player, potentially two, is not good that's for sure. Don't think I'd say it's collapsing yet, but certainly some deterioration going on.

I've PM-ed tgbob to see if a longer hosting schedule would help keep him around. And I'll see what I can do about helping in the search for a Pangaea sub. It would be very sad for a nation that has endured as much a Pangaea has, and survived, to have it's ultimate fate sealed by the AI :(

Thr current turn may be getting delayed if it helps in keeping both Caelum and Pangaea under human control.

Keep you all (or whoever's left) posted.

Calahan July 16th, 2009 11:48 AM

Re: CarCrash - EA Game - CBM - (Running)
 
I have now heard back from tgbob, and he says that extending the hosting to 72 hours would be a big help to him, and allow him to continue playing in this game.

So rather than risk having two major nations turning AI, I will be extending the hosting schedule to 72 hours as of now so that we can keep tgbob in charge of Caelum, and then only have the problem of potentially losing Pangaea to the AI (although haven't given up on finding a sub yet).

PsiSoldier July 16th, 2009 03:21 PM

Re: CarCrash - EA Game - CBM - (Running)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Calahan (Post 701609)
That's some good confidence on display there PsiSoldier :)

Confidence is never been something I have lacked, even when there has been no good reason for it. :D:D

Calahan July 18th, 2009 01:26 PM

Re: CarCrash - EA Game - CBM - (Running)
 
Pangaea were about to stale, which would have been a bit pointless IMO. So I have extended the hosting to prevent this. I will find out off Executor if he's had any luck finding a sub, or if not, ask him (or someone else) to turn Pangaea AI asap.

Zapmeister July 18th, 2009 02:07 PM

Re: CarCrash - EA Game - CBM - (Running)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Calahan (Post 701992)
Pangaea were about to stale, which would have been a bit pointless IMO. So I have extended the hosting to prevent this. I will find out off Executor if he's had any luck finding a sub, or if not, ask him (or someone else) to turn Pangaea AI asap.

Cal, I think you've forgotten that Pan is in the grace period of the NAPs he recently cancelled, and the AI would almost certainly violate that grace period.

I've played my turn (and don't particularly want to replay it) based on the confident knowledge that Executor would either play his turn honouring the NAP, or stale.

I think the turn should be force hosted immediately. If Pan goes AI in the following turn, the grace period would still be violated, but at least I could play my turn with that knowledge.

Calahan July 18th, 2009 02:30 PM

Re: CarCrash - EA Game - CBM - (Running)
 
Pangaea sent their "All NAP's void" notice on turn 62 (in-game message). By my reckoning (although this is just my view of an NAP timetable) if the NAP's were 3-turn NAP's, any attacks that were ordered this turn would be valid.

Turn 62 - Turn 1 of notice
Turn 63 - Turn 2 of notice
Turn 64 - Turn 3 of notice, hostile orders may be issued if so wished.
Turn 65 - All 3-turn NAP's are officially over, and any attacks that occur were valid with regards cancelling the NAP.

Also, the game status page states that no NAP's in this game are inviolable, so any player in the game could choose to violate any NAP at any time if they wished. So if Pan are turned AI, and the AI decided to attack, then the AI would simply be choosing to violate the NAP's (if the NAP's were longer than 3 turns), which is fine IMO, and one of the features of this particular game, as was stated before sign-ups.

I have PM'ed Executor to see what the situation is regarding a sub, but my intentions are to find someone to turn Pan AI this turn (and within the hour) if no sub if found. I don't see how letting them stale again is correct though.

For the record I have done my turn on the assumption that Pan are still human controlled, as I don't believe in issuing orders just to take advantage of AI-turning nations.

PsiSoldier July 18th, 2009 06:31 PM

Re: CarCrash - EA Game - CBM - (Running)
 
Hrrrrm so the question is... Do I Let Pangaea's massive army take one of my provinces so they are in friendly dominion so that I can Master Enslave them all with no risk of losing my pretender or do I kill 95% of them before they have a chance to attack one of my provinces... Tough choice..

Executor July 18th, 2009 07:01 PM

Re: CarCrash - EA Game - CBM - (Running)
 
I don't think you can master enslave them, carrion at least, that's why you have arcain domination. You can quite easily screw yourself by casting the wrong spell.
Master enslave for regular units,
Undead mastery for undead,
Arcain domination for magic,

And since carrions are both magic and undead I have no idea if both work or one of them and which one.

PsiSoldier July 18th, 2009 07:23 PM

Re: CarCrash - EA Game - CBM - (Running)
 
I think Master Enslave actually does all types and its the only one that does regular.. I could be mistaken though. I believe Ive tested that numerous times in Single Player.. I cant recall it ever not working.

But it would be cheaper to cast Master enslave once for the Maenads and then Arcain Domination for the Carrion.. I would think Undead Mastery should work on the Carrion summons as well seeing as how they are both Undead and Magic and which I am also able to cast.

If Master Enslave doesnt enslave Carrions then I'll just have the Carrion summons fighting the Maenads for a turn or so before I cast Arcane domination.

But I may just pop in with another commander and kill them all with some battlefield wide spells beforehand seeing as how they have no armor or very little in the case of the carrions.. Havent really decided.

Executor July 18th, 2009 07:28 PM

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I could be wrong. I know master enslave didn't work on undead chariots for me, however chariots were mindless come to thing of it. Than again most undead also are.

PsiSoldier July 18th, 2009 08:24 PM

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Honestly the best memory I have of using Master Enslave was teleporting my pretender on top of an army of about 1000 Formorian Giants and Enslaving them all I'm pretty sure they had some other magic beings in that army but I cant recall for sure. Not that they would have lived long once I enslaved all the giants if the enslave hadnt work on them.

Zapmeister July 18th, 2009 09:20 PM

Re: CarCrash - EA Game - CBM - (Running)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Calahan (Post 702005)
Pangaea sent their "All NAP's void" notice on turn 62 (in-game message). By my reckoning (although this is just my view of an NAP timetable) if the NAP's were 3-turn NAP's, any attacks that were ordered this turn would be valid.

Turn 62 - Turn 1 of notice
Turn 63 - Turn 2 of notice
Turn 64 - Turn 3 of notice, hostile orders may be issued if so wished.
Turn 65 - All 3-turn NAP's are officially over, and any attacks that occur were valid with regards cancelling the NAP.

Really? I could have sworn we were in the second turn of the grace period. Still, I defer to your non-Alzheimer's-afflicted memory.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calahan (Post 702005)
Also, the game status page states that no NAP's in this game are inviolable, so any player in the game could choose to violate any NAP at any time if they wished.

Yeah, I'm not saying that people shouldn't break NAPs. What I'm saying is that the human player of Pan convinced me that he wouldn't break his NAP and I played on that basis. My issue is, if Pan had gone AI and the turn hosted without my knowledge, I would have been at a significant disadvantage.

EDIT: Ah - I see that this is exactly what occurred and yes, Pan attacked. :(

This is not about taking advantage of nations going AI, its about knowing the state of the game at the time you play your turn.

Also, in terms of game balance, I disagree that the difference between one turn of stale and one turn of AI control is significant.

Just my 2c

Zapmeister July 24th, 2009 02:09 AM

Re: CarCrash - EA Game - CBM - (Running)
 
Henceforth, Tir na n'Og shall be played by DryaUnda.
I have forwarded his email to the administrator.

Calahan July 24th, 2009 04:57 AM

Re: CarCrash - EA Game - CBM - (Running)
 
Sorry to see you go Zap :( You've certainly been a tough competitor here all the way through, and a fine asset to the game as a whole. Many thanks for playing and providing everyone with good competition. And as admin a definite extra thanks for lining up your own sub before bowing out, and staying until one was found. Many games would be a lot different if everyone took the time and courtesy to do that.

Hope this (and Red Ruby) wasn't your Swan Song for Dominions in general though, since I believe you are one of the few that have been around since Dominions PPP, so be even sadder to see a PPP vet disappear.

The email for DryaUnda has now been changed, so....

@ DryaUnda - On behalf of everyone, 'Welcome to CarCrash' :)

Calahan July 24th, 2009 11:27 AM

Re: CarCrash - EA Game - CBM - (Running)
 
Game delayed 12 hours by request of a player.

Silence0 July 24th, 2009 09:52 PM

Re: CarCrash - EA Game - CBM - (Running)
 
Hi all... I´m very sorry for my lack of communication but i had lots of work and no access to the forums.. it´s been a fun game but without human interaction it´s not really the same.. that said i hope i can be a regular again and plot world domination with you all..

AlgaeNymph July 31st, 2009 12:43 PM

Re: CarCrash - EA Game - CBM - (Running)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zapmeister (Post 702859)
Henceforth, Tir na n'Og shall be played by DryaUnda.

Henceforth, Tir na n'Og's player will be known as AlgaeNymph. This will only affect forum correspondence.

Calahan August 2nd, 2009 06:26 AM

Re: CarCrash - EA Game - CBM - (Running)
 
@ All

The game may be getting delayed 24 hours to address the Niefelheim stales. They've staled two out of the last three turns, and I really don't want to see that become three out of last four if it can be helped (the current Niefelheim turn is still outstanding).

I PM-ed 'Bluff' two days ago to ask for a status report regarding the stales, but I have not received a reply yet. But Bluff's last forum activity was apparently over a week ago (according to his profile page), so there's a good chance he hasn't seen my PM yet.

I don't think it's right to look for a sub at the moment for Niefelheim, as the stale situation isn't that bad yet, as there hasn't been two stales in a row, and Bluff may well be intending to submit a .2h file for the current turn. So he is likely to, and rightly to, be a bit annoyed if his nation was to be usurped from under him by looking for a sub. The problem is I just don't know due to the lack of contact.

I will try using the llamaserver to contact Bluff in the hopes of getting hold of him that way. Other than that my only other thought is to let the game host and send Niefelheim an in-game message.

So this is just a heads-up to you all about the Niefelheim position. Any delay for Niefelheim is not definite yet, so please still aim to get your turns in by the current deadline. But I will post again later to say whether ot not a delay is happening.

Calahan August 2nd, 2009 07:26 PM

Re: CarCrash - EA Game - CBM - (Running)
 
Still no word from 'Bluff'. I have PM-ed him twice and sent him a message using the llamaserver, but neither has worked so far in getting a responce from him. I have now also sent him an in-game message asking him to contact me to let me know what's happening.

I am going to delay the game 8 hours so that I can check again in the morning for any emails or PM's. If I still have not received anything, then I will let the game host and hope the in-game message gets to him.

If there is still no sign of him 24 hours into the next turn, then I guess I will have to start looking for a sub, since I have run out of ideas for contacting him, so I'll have to assume he's gone AWOL.

PsiSoldier August 2nd, 2009 08:48 PM

Re: CarCrash - EA Game - CBM - (Running)
 
I hate to say it, but considering he didnt ask for an extension of the turn there is really no reason to expect an 8 hour delay to make any difference. Obviously it could pottentially make a difference but if he has neglected submitting his turn up to this point I just dont see that 8 hours will mean much in the end when it wasnt requested.

It may be a good idea to go ahead and look for a sub, then if Bluff doesnt come back or acknowladges in the thread that he is having Real life problems and needs one then we are a step ahead of the game. And on the otherhand if you find a sub and he does come back and get his turns in on time then you can kindly thank the sub and let him know you will keep him in mind in the future if we need him.

I'm guessing with the current stale situation though that we are more inclined to need the sub than not to need one though.

It's a shame though I was hoping to see the turn before I went to bed :(

PsiSoldier August 4th, 2009 01:46 AM

Re: CarCrash - EA Game - CBM - (Running)
 
What's with the message from Host about Yomi having an unexplainable increase in wealth that can be caused by cheating?

I think Ive seen message's like that in nearly every game Ive every played and if memory serve's I think it's even said that about me once or twice. Anyone know what causes that? I seriously doubt everyone's cheating in all these games and I'd be surprised if any of the message's Ive seen have actually been caused by cheating so there has to be another reason.

Calahan August 4th, 2009 05:14 AM

Re: CarCrash - EA Game - CBM - (Running)
 
@ PsiSoldier - Yeah, I've had that message in a lot of my games. No idea what causes it. This is the second time that it's happened to one of my nations, and on neither occasion did I ever see anything appear gold/gem wise that wasn't expected.

I had a theory that it was linked to the mercs somehow, since the first game it happened to me in I was bidding on mercs at the time, but lost the province I was buying them for. Hence losing the mercs, and getting the gold-refund, which I thought was the 'unexpected increase in wealth' being reported. But when I tried reproducing that in test games I didn't get the message. So I went back to being puzzled by it :)


@ All - Niefelheim

Ok, I heard back from Bluff overnight, and it sounds like he's having a few RL problems. He didn't actually say that he wouldn't/couldn't continue with the game, but to be on the safe side I'm going to look for a sub (first chance I get).


@ All - Re: 8 hour un-requested delay last turn

I delayed the game 8 hours on the previous turn mainly because that pushed the hosting back to 11am llamaserver time, which should have equated to the late evening in Australia (where I'm pretty certain Bluff is from). So my theory was that if Bluff was away over the weekend, and than into work on the Monday, Monday evening might have been the first chance he got to check his emails etc. I bit of guesswork on my part, but thought it was worth the 8 hours to see if it panned out.

Also, when I was arranging a cease-fire with Niefelheim about 40 turns ago, the majority of the many PM's I exchanged with Bluff were during the 7am-10am llamaserver time window. So again I hoped that a 11am llamaserver time hosting would have caught Bluff in his 'Dominions time' window, hence again my decision to tag-on the 8 hour delay in the hope of getting some sort of responce from Bluff before the double stale.


Anyway, enough chat :) Need to get some RL work done so that I can find time to throw-up a sub post this afternoon.

Calahan August 4th, 2009 12:15 PM

Re: CarCrash - EA Game - CBM - (Running)
 
@ All

I have managed to find a sub for Niefelheim. The future of the frost giants in now in the capable hands of 'Pelthin'. So please direct all future Niefelheim correspondece that way from here on.

Pelthin August 4th, 2009 12:38 PM

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Hello All.

I am the new management for the frost giants, so let me know if we had any NAP's, ect.. No response and I will assume you are fair game, ect.. :)

If you hate me, I will accept neing attacked as the defacto message coming my way.

Thanks for allowing me to join!

tgbob August 5th, 2009 10:39 PM

Re: CarCrash - EA Game - CBM - (Running)
 
Requesting a 5 hour delay. Oh I hope Calahan sees this.

Calahan August 6th, 2009 04:56 AM

Re: CarCrash - EA Game - CBM - (Running)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tgbob (Post 704529)
Requesting a 5 hour delay. Oh I hope Calahan sees this.

Time added as requested tgbob :)


@ All - For future reference.

If the turn is set to host anytime after 11am llamaserver time, then there's usually a good 95% chance I'll see any last minute delay requests. Only time I might miss one is if the turn is hosting 1am-11am llamaserver time, as those are the hours I'm usually sleeping and getting ready for work.

Since there's only a few of us left now, I might make sure the hosting time always happens at pm llamaserver time. As that way there's far less chance of me missing last minute delay requests due to being asleep.

tgbob August 6th, 2009 08:42 AM

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Forewarning, I was planning to move sometime this weekend but Typhoon Morakot decided to pay Taiwan a visit. My internet is going to be pretty flaky again.

Calahan August 6th, 2009 09:26 AM

Re: CarCrash - EA Game - CBM - (Running)
 
@ tgbob - Thanks for the heads up on the Typhoon and dodgy internet warnings. I'll keep an eye on your turn and the deadline, and do what's needed to make sure Mother Nature doesn't cause you to stale.

Calahan August 12th, 2009 04:44 AM

Re: CarCrash - EA Game - CBM - (Running)
 
A few hours to go before hosting, and still no tgbob/Caelum turn. The news is still reporting that Typhoon Morakot is doing it's thing in tgbob's part of the world, so there's a fair chance his internet could be out at the moment. As he has already warned that dodgy internet is a very likely result of said Typhoon activity, so he has indirectly asked for a delay because of it.

So I'm going to add on a few hours for tgbob to help him avoid a stale. He has a good record of submitting turns on time, so pretty sure he won't keep us waiting. I would normally wait until nearer the deadline to add on the delay, but will probably be out of the office for the rest of the day, so won't have chance to keep a closer eye on things.

tgbob August 12th, 2009 05:53 AM

Re: CarCrash - EA Game - CBM - (Running)
 
Thanks for the additional time, but I'm doing my turn right now. Freaking class taking up all of my spare time.

Calahan August 14th, 2009 06:03 AM

Re: CarCrash - EA Game - CBM - (Running)
 
@ All - Game delayed 24 hours by my own request. A small family problem has just occured, which means I won't be at home again until tomorrow afternoon, so no chance of sending my turn in before the current deadline hits.

Apologies for the hold-up.

Calahan August 15th, 2009 12:24 PM

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@ All - Apologies again, but I'm going to have to kindly ask for another 8 hours for my turn :( Only just got home, and it's unlikely that I'll have enough time tonight to get my turn done. But should have the time tomorrow to get my turn sorted.

Very sorry for the two delays I've had to request. Some RL problems have limited my Dominions time over the past few days, but hope things are back on track now :)

PsiSoldier August 16th, 2009 10:31 AM

Re: CarCrash - EA Game - CBM - (Running)
 
Anyone who wants to see neifle's Arcane corruption dispelled send me Pearls and I'll take care of it. I'll need a few turns to save up though.

PsiSoldier August 16th, 2009 11:02 AM

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Thanks to Neifle's Arcane Corruption Caleum and I have declared a truce to our war.

Neifle has one turn to let me know how many slaves were put into the AC before I annihilate him.

tgbob August 18th, 2009 02:31 PM

Re: CarCrash - EA Game - CBM - (Running)
 
Preemptive couple of hours delay just in case request.

Calahan August 18th, 2009 02:38 PM

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No problem tgbob. I'll add 6 hours for now. Let me know if you need any more or not.

Calahan August 25th, 2009 04:01 AM

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@ All

Many apologies everyone, but I'll need a 4 hour delay for this one. Had to rush getting ready for work this morning due to a failed alarm clock, and as such I forgot to send my turn in as I intended. And some after work plans mean I won't be getting home until a lot later than usual.

I've also used the llamaserver to send a message to Atlantis, since they have staled the last 2 turns. 'Silence0' is not a regular on these forums, so have no idea if these stales were just accidental, or something that will need me to break out my sub-hunting rod.

Pelthin August 27th, 2009 10:02 PM

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Can I get a delay for the next turn? I had to request a resend, as it didn't email me. Just got it, and I need to get to bed and work.

Could I have 12 hours? Please?

Thanks.

Calahan August 28th, 2009 03:37 AM

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No problem Pelthin. I've added 18 hours as I might be struggling as well to get the turn done in time, and 18 hours will allow me to do my turn during a work-free Saturday morning :)


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