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They were not designed to be invulnerable. Players would complain
They were not intended to be game-changing but they can be very useful in targeting arty and NLOS weapons Movement attracts attention. Don't fly them over enemy lines and if possible start them about 3/4 the way to your front line at high altitude and don't move them unless you have to. Remember they can land just like helos and just like they can in RL so when things get hot drop behind the trees OO LOS |
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Not related to this threads topic but.........PTKM-1R top- attack antitank mine
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I'm playing a generated campaign game as the USA in 2022 and I just noticed the drones under the scout helo group. So I have bought one for my next round of the campaign and will give a try, interested to see how long it lasts until ka-boom :D
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Use them conservatively and they will last. They get you eyes on targets even when near the back of your maps side over a wider area than a FO but try to avoid attracting attention. The US switchblades are in the 707 - Ranger Squad and 107 NLOS ATGM Team... They can be effective but they are deliberately not magic bullets
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FWIW it *appears* that although the wheels may be from the T-90 the hull does indeed appear to be based on the Armata SPA 2S35 Koalitsiya-SV, SPA 2S35 Koalitsiya-SV with radar, SPA 2S19M2 Msta-S and MLRS 9K515 Tonado-S top view. https://i.redd.it/rfjhlvhquza51.jpg The hull is longer than a T-90 but all side shots of that SP show 6 wheels with 6 indents per wheel https://www.cybermodeler.com/armor/2...2s35_title.jpg So the current Icon is correct for hull length though I need to adjust the turret position a bit |
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Well during this "lull" I got to thinking about what we use to tow the M777 series artillery? Well, it's not an APC since they sit too low to the ground, thus forming a "V" if you will beyond anything more than a trailer.
And if you've towed anything in your life then you know this "V" causes ground clearance, loading/unloading, side to side "swing" and most importantly makes the load unstable. You as close you can make it, NEED a "level plane" between the towing vehicle and the load. These weapons (M777A2) were sent to the Ukraine with the support vehicles (Tow and ammo trucks.) used by the USA. And between the USA/USMC they use three different trucks, 2 for the Army and one exclusively (With exception of FMTV for HIMARS) for Marines. Again, these trucks are what both these services use(ed) for many years now for towing artillery and of course by extension, general purpose. So, from/for the USA ... https://peoammo.army.mil/tas/Products/m777a2/ https://asc.army.mil/web/portfolio-i...vehicles-fmtv/ https://oshkoshdefense.com/vehicles/...vehicles/fmtv/ (The pictures I've seen show the 6x6 VERSION.) https://oshkoshdefense.com/vehicles/.../fmtv/fmtv-a2/ (I haven't come across any pictures so far that they're being used for the purpose of this POST.) http://www.military-today.com/trucks/m1083_mtv.htm (In a combat environment they'll have the ARMORED cab and likely be equipped with a machine gun. For the CORPS... https://oshkoshdefense.com/vehicles/...vehicles/mtvr/ https://www.military-today.com/trucks/oshkosh_mtvr.htm (I've seen/touched the Tractor version with armored cab, pretty impressive for a truck.) Maybe it could possibly be a rainy-day thing!?! And as Don pointed out ... http://military-today.com/artillery/koalitsija_sv.htm And uses components of the ... http://www.military-today.com/tanks/t90.htm This next I believe is finishing up its evaluation testing. http://www.military-today.com/artill...iya_sv_ksh.htm Regards, Pat :capt: |
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Inching closer and closer...
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...6c5d0beb25d9c9 Also, those HARPOONS are verified to be in country as of yesterday with the mobile launchers apparently as well from Denmark (With our permission.). They can be used against land targets as well. These WILL give the Russians something to think about and plan around in future sea operations. I'm NOT advocating for these weapons (Or any type of cruise missiles.) for the game since there's no added value except for how expensive they are and you as the player would go broke quickly! That goes for tactical nukes as well, afterall this isn't "Tactics II" or "Sixth Fleet". Those threads are in here somewhere about a decade back or so. Regards, Pat :capt: |
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In this ever-changing situation sources are now confirming that 6 (Another 6 to follow.) French CAESER 6x6 (With "BONUS" rounds and 18 Polish KRABs (3 Ukrainian batteries.) are in the fight. One of the articles pointed out 100 artillery men have been in Poland for some time to get trained on them and their accompanied ammo resupply units (This is true for ALL foreign "donated" artillery. These SPA units are auto fed.)
https://en.defence-ua.com/weapon_and...edia-3109.html https://www.rt.com/news/556304-polan...tzers-ukraine/ https://thenewsglory.com/poland-deli...rs-to-ukraine/ Now to the CAESAR first from an earlier discussion on shoot-n-scoot ... "But for quick shoot-and-scoot fires, a CAESAR crew can begin firing 60 seconds after arriving on position and decamp within 40 seconds. That means a CAESAR unit can begin rolling away less than three minutes after deploying, well before a counterbattery riposte can land." https://sofrep.com/news/french-firep...nt-to-ukraine/ https://www.19fortyfive.com/2022/05/...ne-in-ukraine/ https://news.yahoo.com/armed-forces-...121346214.html Some are suggesting they have also received the Italian modified M109L. This is not true at this time, however they will get them in the not-too-distant future. This is a unique version in that it doesn't have the existing 23 caliber barrel but was modified with a 39 caliber barrel instead. https://www.janes.com/defence-news/n...tillery-system http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product3729.html https://www.blindbatnews.com/2022/03...d-beyond/87206 Regards, Pat :capt: |
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Well, POTUS has decided NOT to send HIMARS/or MRLS to the Ukraine for fears they'll be used to target units inside Russian territory. As announced today.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/joewals...h=3ff1413a3711 https://news.yahoo.com/ukraine-seeks...143118661.html https://forum.shrapnelgames.com/edit...tpost&p=852698 https://www.republicworld.com/world-...ticleshow.html There are a couple of options they can send them with the shorter-range rockets and still accomplish the mission for the Ukraine. Next, we can send them M109A5/A6 which can do the same easily as well. Why? because those options above and with the recently received SPA systems and those that "are on the way, have all one thing in common they'll for the most part out range anything in the field Russia is using. Obviously, I'm NOT talking about the http://www.military-today.com/artillery/smerch.htm http://www.military-today.com/artill..._2t_smerch.htm Which are known to be operating on the Russian border. There are other Russian units NOT YET FIEIDED that will have similar or slightly better ranges then the systems above. The TORNADO-G has a new rocket in development that'll supposedly reach out to 90km-100km. These (AND THOSE ABOVE.) are ideal for where the battle is now focused on the Eastern part of Ukraine. There is however a couple of quantifiers dealing with their rocket supply. At the rate they're using them their stocks are running low quickly. Also, if true, the munitions plant that made the rocket propellants was "mysteriously" blown up a couple of months back. The plant was located about 400 miles East of Moscow in the Ural Mountains. http://www.military-today.com/artillery/tornado_g.htm The supply issue is reported by U.S./UK and other Defense sources. The plant not so sure without more information. To my last post the fastest known SPA system is the ARCHER with prep to fire in 30s interval between fires is at or less than 30s so it can fire 2 rounds and "shoot-n-scoot" in ~<2 minutes! http://www.military-today.com/artillery/archer.htm (It was one of my earliest submissions I believe in this thread before changing formats.) Regards, Pat :capt: |
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I've been playing with the RPAS drones lately. The fact that they are transportable with no cost comes in very handy. Getting an idea of how visible they are to enemy is ongoing, but the spotting function with the switchblades works like a charm.
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Well after my Post #209 POTUS changed his mind two days later and I started watching to see what would happen. I got my answer about thirty minutes ago The Ukraine has NOW a battery (4) of HIMARS with the extended range 70km rockets. This was part of our new package approved this week.
I'm thinking this was a brilliant "sleight of hand" of disinformation against Russia for which those systems would cross a "red line" with them. https://www.armyrecognition.com/defe..._vehicles.html The following reports what's in the current package and provides a full update as to what we've sent to the Ukraine. https://www.armyrecognition.com/defe...r_ukraine.html And also, as I offered in the post referenced at top, and this literally just came up, we've given NORWAY permission at some earlier point in time to send the Ukraine their M109A3GN improved SPA systems. Refer back to Para 2, they're also in country on the front. https://www.armyrecognition.com/defe...nian_army.html They're there and in operation, don't have time to break this down more-I gotta go to work!!! Regards Pat :capt: |
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......and the unit I took out is now back in.........
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Imagine that!?! :rolleyes:
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Here video clip with AHS Krab on Ukrainian front-line service.
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Video clip of the work of the Russian MSTA
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Just a little something from a place called the Salisbury Plain.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/video/news...ategory=foryou My TGIF! Regards, Pat :capt: |
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Looks like the first M270 MLRS arrived in in the Ukraine on the July 15th these should be the UK versions which are slightly more advanced than ours as they've been upgraded. I suggest the UK models are there as they were the first to get approval from the U.S. to send them there. Also, as I've posted a couple of weeks back, we found out taha the training has been going on a lot earlier then was reported.
I'm sure was to maintain a level of operational security and deception. https://www.armyrecognition.com/defe...n_ukraine.html However, the USA this past week received the first upgraded M270A2 which sees many improvements. https://www.armyrecognition.com/defe...o_us_army.html Looks like GEPHARD won't arrive until possibly the end of this month but likely in August. Training has apparently been going well the delay came from the German Gov't. Spain is still trying to get their former LEOPARD 2A4 tanks to the Ukraine. See the above for who's delaying that as well. Unless we're all going to get a big surprise, I'm starting to think the German LEOPARD 1A5 tank deal might not happen for the Ukraine. Regards, Pat :capt: |
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Pat, all we can do is wait and see
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The nice thing we do have going with all this equipment is...
1. The Ukraine isn't changing the names of what they're getting, which means... 2. We just have to bring them over from the donating countries OOB's unchanged SINCE they're sending their front-line equipment in most cases with the same ammo. This I know is a simplistic to all get really is involved. Not much but, again could be worse. Regards, Pat :capt: |
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Refer to Posts #217 & #221 for the following if needed.
I feel strongly I can confirm those M270 MRLS that arrived in the Ukraine on the 15th of this month are from the UK. I already knew the UK started training crews on theirs before Norway and Germany and us "bringing up the rear". Also, the following ref. tells me the same, for what it's not saying concerning the M270 MRLS. It does NOT mention "Training is still ongoing..." or "The M270 MRLS upon completion of training is expected to be delivered sometime..." Why does this matter about who sent it? Because the UK versions have fairly recently been updated (FCS etc. etc.) almost to the standard of our new M2 version which the USA just took delivery of the FIRST UNIT last week. This also allows for the firing of the newer longer-range ATACMS (300km Rng.) missiles. But for immediate game value, concerning the UK version it has a much better protected crew cab and a new engine which will increase its speed. You'll also note in the first ref. that the UK helped the Ukraine buy the additional (20) Belgium M109A4BE 155mm tracked self-propelled howitzers they didn't buy. https://www.armyrecognition.com/defe...05mm_guns.html https://euroweeklynews.com/2022/07/1...ed-in-ukraine/ Regards, Pat :capt: |
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Artillery & The War in Ukraine - Developments, lessons, & logistics
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Here article about PZH2000 and Cesar service on frontline
https://en.defence-ua.com/weapon_and...ideo-3604.html MT-12 Rapira Guns for National Guard https://en.defence-ua.com/weapon_and...hoto-3627.html And mentioned earlier MT-LB with helicopters pods they were build in some number already during war in Donbas 2015 Here K-52 helicopter pods on ordinary pickup https://en.defence-ua.com/weapon_and..._way-3355.html https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CVkRRjiW...jpg&name=small Krab on Front-line together with support vehicles https://www.steelbeasts.com/topic/10...comment-226789 Here K-52 cannibalised rockets pods on ordinary pickup https://en.defence-ua.com/weapon_and..._way-3355.html other vehicle with S-8 rockets they may be build in bigger numbers https://gagadget.com/pl/135834-ukrai...ego-samochodu/ https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraina/com...ome_ukrainian/ https://ukrainetoday.org/2022/06/06/...pickup-trucks/ And here immortal UAZ-469 with Grad tubes "miniature Katyusha" https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FWSkZrlWQAEewtj.jpg:large And ordinary Ukrainian Technical with NSV 12.7mm on pickup https://en.defence-ua.com/weapon_and...ians-3626.html Video about all types o this improvised MLRS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHb5hw8i3Iw |
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First GEPARDS are in country now. First source refers to 3 in country as of the end of last week. They have been refurbished and fully overhauled as needed. Uses both Airburst HE-FRAG and AP rounds.
As ref. 2 points out they will be very effective especially as most of what they will be shooting at was around when the GEPARD was first introduced. They can also handle easily any low flying modern craft as well. Also found it interesting that the radar will effectively pick up targets at 9 miles allowing enough "heads up" for the crew as the craft approaches the 3 mile "kill zone". https://www.armyrecognition.com/defe...raft_tank.html https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...639ec05d9981d4 VACA over back to the "grind" :( Regards, Pat :capt: |
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I just saw a report that France is no longer sending any more CEASER SPA systems to Ukraine other than what they sent. Not sure of the validity of the report, since said report had no link, so has anyone else heard anything?
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With the following (NOT THAT I NEEDED IT.) further verifies that the first M270 MRLS systems were from the UK as per Posts #217 #221 & #223.
With that established, Germany has just delivered 3 additional PzH 2000 155mm and 3 MARS II (German version of the M270 MRLS.) systems from ref. 1 ... "The MARS II of the German army is equipped with a new European Fire Control System (EFC) enabling the firing of guided rockets called GMLRS. It can also fire M31 GMLRS, M31A1, M32, AT2 and 110 mm rockets, but not of M26, M26A1, and M30, so as to ensure full compliance with the Convention on Cluster Munitions. " "...GMLRS is now able to conduct high-precision engagement of point and individual targets and is used as an artillery sniper weapon. The MARS II rocket has a minimum engagement range of 15 km and can hit a target up to 70 km. It also integrates a 90 kg unitary warhead, providing precision strikes for point targets." Also concerning GEPARD the correct number received was 5 units vice 3. So, the Ukraine is operating 1 battery of them. "Citing information from the German Defense Minister Christine Lambrecht, Germany has already delivered five Gepard 35mm mobile self-propelled anti-aircraft armored vehicles..." https://www.armyrecognition.com/defe...r_systems.html Concerning CAESAR I start with the following... "The reports of my demise are premature." because France is in the process of sending six more. Dated from the 20th... https://www.armyrecognition.com/defe...o_ukraine.html Frances's issue is that they are bound by law to maintain 77 units but 18 (Including the 6 from above.) have been "gifted" by France to the Ukraine. They simply need to make more. "...among the 77 CAESAR self-propelled howitzers that it must possess, in accordance with the format defined in the report annexed to the Military Programming Law (LPM) 2019 -25, the French Army currently has only 58 left as a result of its gifts to Ukraine." How fast not very and this is a GOOD EXCERCISE to understand how long it takes to build major combat equipment as taken from the following ref below again. "It now remains to be seen how Nexter and its subcontractors will organize themselves to accelerate their production rate, especially since the CAESAr has also attracted foreign customers, namely Belgium (28 CAESAR NGs) (Mine: That's the 8x8 version in a different configuration as well that Switzerland is currently looking at). Currently, it takes 18 months to produce a unit." https://www.armyrecognition.com/defe...o_ukraine.html They could "technically" send maybe another battery as long as they replace them. And as the immediate above ref indicates, they have some options on how to get there. Regards, Pat :capt: |
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Germany is officially announcing that 8 GEPARDS have thus far been delivered the Ukraine.
https://www.armyrecognition.com/defe...rn_trucks.html I am still somewhat surprised by how effective this unit is. The following taken from the article as "dissected"... "fully autonomous air defense system thanks to its S-band search radar mounted at the rear of the turret and a Ku-band Doppler tracking radar fitted at the front" "able to detect and track aerial targets at a maximum range of 15 km." Effective Gun range... "about 3,500 m and more than 4,500 m with (Frangible Armor Piercing Discarding Sabot) ammunition. " They were sent the FAPDS along with the other as already posted, I believe to be an HE-FRAG munition. Regards, Pat :capt: |
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THE FUTURE IS NOW, OLD MAN.
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1.) Smoke and dust can affect lasers; unlike regular weapons. 2.) Damage capability / targets they can defeat are still variable -- A 50 KW laser can shoot down stuff weighing up to 1,320 pounds, from rockets, mortars, artillery shells, small aircraft and drones; and it could probably damage an incoming fighter jet (blind it's sensors, or burn a hole in a wing) forcing an abort. While a 20 KW laser can only down small drones and can't defend from artillery/rockets/mortars. |
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Germany may be supplying Ukraine with 255 rounds of the the new Leonardo/Diehl Vulcano 155mm guided shells (most likely the GLS/SAL version) which is a 5 inch (127mm) subcaliber round that can reach out to 70-80 km with a 1m CEP.
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Just for giggles....... Anyone who shoots a rifle beyond plinking will get this 1 MOA at 1000 yards is 8" 1/2 MOA at 1000 yards is 4" 1/2 MOA is very good shooting 80 Km = 87,489 yards 87.489 X 8 = 699.912 ( lets call it 700 inches to keep it simple ) 700 inches is 17.78m So at 80km 1 MOA is 17.8m ( close enough ) A 1m CEP (Circular Error Probable)at 80km is like putting 5 shots through the same hole at 100m with no measured deviation in the size of the hole in relation to the diameter of the projectile ......only it's being done with a 155mm cannon |
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First video of Gepard on Eastern Front in Ukraine military
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Well, I was glad to see the S-300 didn't get into the Syrian OOB as there was some speculation that they bought them from Russia.
However, I am investigating based on the ref below that Syria has been operating the S-200 for some time now which I did not see in the Syrian OOB. Of the 3 batteries of S-300's Russia positioned in Syria one has been removed and is strongly believed to just very recently to be operating somewhere near the front lines of Ukraine probably in or near Crimea. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...ef04d4c48b9c02 Regards, Pat :capt: |
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Russia finished test and starts production of 2S43 Malva
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In doing this some equipment previously in storage has been dusted off and put into units - this is called doing a "Bydén" after the current commander Michael Bydén. This included truck mounted RBS-15 anti-ship missile systems, RBS-90 SAM systems and it seems the RBS-56 ATGM. The 40 or so stored chassis for the aborted CV90 based AMOS SP-mortar systems were used for a less capable sp-mortar system pushed through quickly to give battalions something better than towed 120mm weapons. A few remaining demonstration RBS 23 Bamse mid range SAMs were also brought out from storage and put into units and deployed to Gotland. This system was meant to cover the range beyond RBS 70/90 and the HAWK systems but was discontinued, except for the handful (about a platoon or company's worth) now on Gotland. The unit type does not exist in winSPMBT but there are only a handful and no news of any new production. The Patriots were bought in competition with a French system and AFIKN Sweden's aims to buy another SAM-system with ground launched IRIS-T. No idea when though... |
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Here is Ukrainian source about Swedish deliveries
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Meaby not newest info but Slovakia since August supply Ukraine with new Zuzana 2 SP-guns
That is third incarnation of this famous Dana gun which in 1977 was state of the art first of it class wheeled gun with autoloader. So evaluation look like that: M1977 Dana build in Czechoslovakia -> Zuzanna build in Slovakia -> Zuzanna 2 build i Slovakia for their army and now for Ukraine. Zuznna 2 has a different armoured cabin for driver than previous version what may judge new icon of course based on previous famous DANA. https://en.defence-ua.com/news/slova...aine-3874.html And here more actually info https://en.defence-ua.com/news/ukrai...lies-4409.html https://mil.in.ua/en/news/germany-de...s-for-ukraine/ https://en.defence-ua.com/media/cont...be578c97f.jfif https://en.defence-ua.com/media/cont...7f7903516d.jpg Just look on whole family of this guns here is correct evolution: 152 mm SpGH DANA (also from Czech delivered to Ukraine) 152 mm ShKH Ondava (several prototypes not in production because fall of Czechoslovakia) 152 mm ShKH MODAN vz.77/99 (Modernised Czech variant) 152 mm ShKH DANA-M1 CZ (Modernised Czech variant) 152 mm ShKH DANA M2 (Czech and Polish modernisation also delivered to Ukraine) 155 mm ShKH A40 Himalaya (Slovak on T-72 tracked chassis prototype) 155 mm ShKH M2000 Zuzana (Slovak in Cypriot army variant M2000G with MG3 HMG also Ukraine) 155 mm ShKH Zuzana 2 (Slovak and now also Ukraine) 155 mm ShKH DITA (prototype) 155 mm ShKH MORANA (prototype) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/152_mm_SpGH_DANA https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/155_mm_SpGH_Zuzana |
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I'm having to post the whole ref. which is a current update about the war in Ukraine.
Scroll Down below the rail tanker car video, go to the next video. This video confirms to me the Ukrainians did get equipped with the latest HE/AP FRAG round I brought up when discussing entry of the GEPARD. In fact, the video shows that's the ONLY round being fired. Count the rounds and count the explosions down range. Also note the "tight pattern" also down range. Seen reports they've brought down a little bit of everything that's flying. As it's designed to do. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...7aa030e21acc03 Got things to do but the following will show that those T-55S tanks arrived by rail on the 29th of this month. And yes, they have been updated as I posted in the MBT Thread a while back. Also, UK has sent 105mm rounds as well as Slovenia for the 105mm L7 MG. https://twitter.com/hashtag/Ukraine?...=hashtag_click Hang on!! https://mezha.media/en/2022/09/20/th...-armed-forces/ https://armyrecognition.com/analysis...riginal%20tank. This is the best ref. (BELOW) as it's more technical which made it HARDER to find... That being said yes this is still a T-55 Steel Armor HOWEVER the difference is in what's over it from ref. Para 2 "The armour protection of the tank was improved considerably by attaching Rafael ERA blocks to the hull and the turret. This armour is believed to be the latest Israeli Super Blazer system which gives a high level of protection against High Explosive Anti-Tank (HEAT) attack but cannot be activated by small arms fire." Also, the FCS allows the Commander independent operations that gives it by definition a "Hunter Killer" mode of operation that means TI/GSR 40 based on date of installation in 1999 with "tweaks" since. Again from ref. Para 3 "A digital ballistic computer was installed in order to improve the fire control system (FCS). The gunner has the Fotona SGS-55 two-axis stabilized day-and-night sight with an integral laser rangefinder. In addition to the integral optic sight the commander has the Fotona COMTOS-55 sight with an independent line-of-sight stabilization, which allows him to acquire targets and lay the gun independently if required. The driver has the Fotona CODRIS combined day/night observation periscope. https://militaryleak.com/2022/09/21/...ks-to-ukraine/ Looks like we get to build a tank!?! :D So, for Sxxts and grins... Chem. Smoke Defense Sys. 2/TI/GSR 40/FC 30/LRF 22/STABILIZER 4 (5?)/SURVIVABILITY 5. Apparently, the Super Blazer ERA was fitted on the Challenger II TES when deployed. It is designed to work against BOTH KE and CE rounds. And non-explosive up to and including 23mm rounds and to 2-4m distance against 155mm artillery round shards. Regards, Pat :capt: |
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Don,
The ICON looks really good! It's your passion and little experience helps as well. Also, I've looked into the T-55S a little more, and though the info is a little "scant" on this tank and after some further thought, I've edited my last post (240) to commit to SURVIBILITY 5. More a "gut"/integrative feeling based I what've read than anything else. To my "project" as discussed, ran into a couple of MINOR issues equipment wise which I'll try to PM you on hopefully later tonight. Regards, Pat :capt: |
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The issue of Bohdane comes back and is possible that after using of Cesar Ukrainian government give green light to production of this vehicle's also in context of use 155mm NATO calibre
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Germany plans to supply Ukraine with 18 RCH 155 wheeled howitzers, according to the government's updated list of arms deliveries to Ukraine.
http://www.military-today.com/artill...xer_rch155.htm https://euro-sd.com/2021/08/articles...23833/rch-155/ https://mil.in.ua/en/news/germany-re...s-for-ukraine/ |
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When we talk about tanks they will be accompanied by domestic SPG's finally production of serial series of Bohdana started and first vehicles looks like are ready now. If you look on photo cabin is a little bit different but is hard to say that they use original KraZ chasis or just totally different vehicle?
BTW that is Herculean effort in war torn country :) https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39....Kg&oe=63D7AB6A and here full article https://en.defence-ua.com/industries...ssis-5562.html https://mil.in.ua/en/news/2s22-bohda...ss-production/ Second issue is the plan to use old Kub SAM launchers with new Sea Sparrow rockets https://en.defence-ua.com/industries...aine-5375.html https://en.defence-ua.com/weapon_and..._for-5366.html |
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I'm only posting this to avoid confusion between the two types of CAESAR SPA. I'm not sure of the status of the procurement of the CAESAR 8X8 in regard to how many if any they physically have.
But Denmark has decided to donate all 19 units to the Ukraine. They are looking to possibly replace them with 19 Israeli ATMOS units due NEXTAR's current production issues to replace French donated units and to meet other existing orders from other countries. Advantages in the "quick" better armor protection as can be seen in the pics from the refs., the range of the VLAP round is increased to 55km (I believe the 6x6 is slightly less.), carries more rounds @ 36 and is capable of direct fire on targets out to 2000m (I honestly not sure if the 6x6 can do this or not.) Demark is the only user at this time and again we don't how they have and when they'll release them if they do have them. https://www.armyrecognition.com/defe...eli_atmos.html https://www.armyrecognition.com/armo...act_sheet.html Gotta get ready for work, I'll be putting some miles on my boot soles today!!!! :D :cool: And loving it for real!! Regards, Pat :capt: |
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No they don't arrived and is no any information that they are in transfer. Poland ordered 500 Himars. First mentioned will be on Oshkosh American truck rest 480 will be build on place on Jelcz chassis.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fobey1pW...pg&name=medium there will be also K239 Chunmoo build on the same Jelcz chasis |
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OK, I have had them in the OOB for a couple of months and right now for guesses I am giving them a 10/123 start....... I think that is being too generous but better info may be accessible in the next couple months
Thinking anything Poland wants and Ukraine needs it'll be Ukraine that gets it first. But we'll see..... |
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