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Immaculate March 22nd, 2012 09:55 PM

Re: Happy New Year, New Game, New Players (EA game: Running 4/10 left))
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Excist (Post 798893)
We're in the endgame I'd say, so I have switched to a 48 hours hosting schedule (from 36). If people want 72 that can be arranged too, but we seem to be humming along smoothly within 48 hours.


lets move to 72h... most of the time it won't be necessary but sometimes it is- tonight i had to rush stuff to get my turn in and i feel bad for my other responsibilities.

Excist March 24th, 2012 01:33 AM

Re: Happy New Year, New Game, New Players (EA game: Running 4/10 left))
 
Sorry about the delays guys.

I hurt my hand bad last night which kind of threw off my time for turns and I ended up working until 9:00 tonight and not getting home until 10:00.

Issues should be resolved soon and then on with regularly scheduled programming.

dojango March 24th, 2012 01:54 PM

Re: Happy New Year, New Game, New Players (EA game: Running 4/10 left))
 
I've had a computer failure and it will probably be a few days before I can see about recovering Dom 3 off the hard drive (if it's even possible at all) so I will probably need a few days before we host the next turn.

Excist March 25th, 2012 01:33 AM

Re: Happy New Year, New Game, New Players (EA game: Running 4/10 left))
 
YAY!!! Its not just me holding you guys up!!!!!


I mean...um....sorry to hear about your PC.

dojango March 28th, 2012 11:41 AM

Re: Happy New Year, New Game, New Players (EA game: Running 4/10 left))
 
ok, back in busineses. can unpause game now.

Excist March 28th, 2012 02:48 PM

Re: Happy New Year, New Game, New Players (EA game: Running 4/10 left))
 
Ok, glad to hear it!

New turn should process tonight after I get home.

Immaculate April 1st, 2012 09:40 PM

Re: Happy New Year, New Game, New Players (EA game: Running 4/10 left))
 
Has this become a mopping-up operation? Is the victor really in doubt?

If not, i would be willing to concede a Mictlan victory and focus my time and attention elsewhere. This has been a fun game but if the result is not in question, maybe we should just call it?

I.

dojango April 1st, 2012 10:10 PM

Re: Happy New Year, New Game, New Players (EA game: Running 4/10 left))
 
if you're willing to concede, I will graciously accept the mantle of victor.

Excist April 2nd, 2012 11:46 AM

Re: Happy New Year, New Game, New Players (EA game: Running 4/10 left))
 
Well, I would like to see my saints in action before I resign.

Is Helheim and Mictlan at war right now?

Immaculate April 2nd, 2012 09:44 PM

Re: Happy New Year, New Game, New Players (EA game: Running 4/10 left))
 
no- helheim is busy cleaning up some forts.

dojango April 2nd, 2012 11:59 PM

Re: Happy New Year, New Game, New Players (EA game: Running 4/10 left))
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Excist (Post 800512)
Well, I would like to see my saints in action before I resign.

Is Helheim and Mictlan at war right now?

we're still on guard against the dangers of a revanchist Agartha. That mega-army is quite ominous.

Excist April 3rd, 2012 01:21 AM

Re: Happy New Year, New Game, New Players (EA game: Running 4/10 left))
 
I still wonder how the game would have gone if the first battle against the zmeys and mages on patrol had my divine bless as I had planned...a good clash with my main northern army will at least give me some closure in that regard ;)

Excist April 3rd, 2012 11:10 PM

Re: Happy New Year, New Game, New Players (EA game: Running 4/10 left))
 
Okay, thanks for sticking around for 1 more climatic battle :D

It was some nice Eye Candy.

I want to extend a thank you to all who participated. This was the best Dom3 game that I've been part of and fun all the way through until the end.

And thanks to everybody that participated in the flavor text to accompany the game.

And finally, Congratulations to Dojango/Mictlan with his very well deserved victory.

Based on some of the comments I've seen I think he is the only player that made it through the game without any major mistakes.

Immaculate April 3rd, 2012 11:31 PM

Re: Happy New Year, New Game, New Players (Finished: Dojango/Mictlan Wins!)
 
Claws of Kokytos > 3 grendelkin.

Yeah- so... everyone share their pretender builds.

Mine was a rainbow druid that i empowered in blood. I don't know if you all knew this or not but i had really strong research for most of the first 2/3 of the game.

Who took the ruby eye? Mictlan?

Excist April 4th, 2012 12:03 AM

Re: Happy New Year, New Game, New Players (Finished: Dojango/Mictlan Wins!)
 
Dom 4 (thus the pre-emptive strike against the bloodsaccing Mictlan) Druid Pretender with Magic paths F4 E9 S4 N10 B4

Turmoil: 3
Sloth: 1
Heat: 3
Death: 3
Luck: 3
Drain: 2

My plan was to roll over any high dom neighbors with my blessed sacreds early and live majoritively in any good dominion I could find (Hinnom's did nicely for quite awhile as I was able to out-eco everybody else even with only half of my territory in Hinnom's dominion)

Agarthan sacreds are cheap to purchase and cheap to maintain and with 13 attack value + stars and 28 damage (15 attack and 38 damage for the cap only version) when berserking meant death to most units and thugs even on a shield-hit and with ~20 prot and 10 hp/round regen they were pretty impossible to kill for the majority of the game.

dojango April 4th, 2012 12:18 AM

Re: Happy New Year, New Game, New Players (Finished: Dojango/Mictlan Wins!)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Immaculate (Post 800670)
Claws of Kokytos > 3 grendelkin.

Yeah- so... everyone share their pretender builds.

Mine was a rainbow druid that i empowered in blood. I don't know if you all knew this or not but i had really strong research for most of the first 2/3 of the game.

Who took the ruby eye? Mictlan?

I was using the Mictlanese Stone Head with 9F4N4B. Scales were O3S3H3G1L3M1 Dom 8. In my test games, turmoil 3 wasn't nearly enough gold income to fuel the starting expansions, so I went order with a slightly weaker bless, figuring as long as income > attrition, it wouldn't matter.

But I want to emphasize a few things. One thing, really. I was amazingly, stupidly, unfairly lucky. Mictlan's three weak schools are air, death, and earth, and I found a death mage and an air mage site in Pangaea's territory, which was pretty nice, because they provided a heck of a research boost in addition to forging skull mentors to power up my research (I managed to surpass Helheim by the end) and forge spirit helms and bows of war for my dudes. I also found the crystal amazons, who provided some archery oomph. And of course who could forget the 3000g windfall late year 2 that let me build three forts at once?


Oh yeah, and before I forget, I had the 30% blood discount site near my capital.

dojango April 4th, 2012 12:32 AM

Re: Happy New Year, New Game, New Players (EA game: Running 4/10 left))
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Excist (Post 800579)
I still wonder how the game would have gone if the first battle against the zmeys and mages on patrol had my divine bless as I had planned...a good clash with my main northern army will at least give me some closure in that regard ;)

I'm not certain it would have made much of a differnce; given that I had something like 7 zmeys and a some demons and jaguars. You killed most of the jags and demons, but only one of the zmeys. Under GoH and with a lyco amulet, each zmey has something like 400 hp, regen, and fights to the death. Even if you had won the battle, I still had hordes of demons and vampires ready to attack.

I didn't have the eye, I had a bunch of the weirder artifacts, but none of the mega-boosters or hammers.

Excist April 4th, 2012 12:47 AM

Re: Happy New Year, New Game, New Players (Finished: Dojango/Mictlan Wins!)
 
Well, losing half of your zmeys would have slowed down your raiding pretty considerably, and if I had won that battle with the divine bless + battlefield spells, then I likely would have kept winning at least a couple of more with the combination.

I never was able to rebuild and have the gem resupply for battlefield spells cast with penetration after that point.

My best guess is that it could have gone either way and at the very least it would have turned into a much more tightly contested fight (perhaps contested enough to allow Helheim to get in the mix).

30% blood discount gives you a hefty advantage with the amount of stuff you can summon, but even when being outnumbered 3 to 1 at the end and without the battlefield spells fatiguing your guys my sacreds killed 1/3 of your units and most of your demons on the frontline had close to 100 fatigue even without the fatigue inducing spells (flying is fatiguing), so with the divine bless on there is a good chance your army would have fatigued out before they were able to kill more than half one of my armies.

I was also producing 30 giants/turn and a Grendelkin every other turn and could have kept that production up if I didn't blunder my southern main army.

dojango April 4th, 2012 01:17 AM

Re: Happy New Year, New Game, New Players (Finished: Dojango/Mictlan Wins!)
 
yeah, I wonder what Helheim would have done. he was obviously waiting for us to destroy each other, but would he have sided with the winner or loser of the war?

Immaculate April 4th, 2012 09:47 AM

Re: Happy New Year, New Game, New Players (Finished: Dojango/Mictlan Wins!)
 
I was just surprised to still be alive. I played a good part of the first part of the game with about 5-7 provinces. What i am really surprised about is that i actually won against Arcosephale- they didn't mind hunt a single time but if they had i would have lost.

dojango April 4th, 2012 10:30 AM

Re: Happy New Year, New Game, New Players (Finished: Dojango/Mictlan Wins!)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Immaculate (Post 800696)
I was just surprised to still be alive. I played a good part of the first part of the game with about 5-7 provinces. What i am really surprised about is that i actually won against Arcosephale- they didn't mind hunt a single time but if they had i would have lost.

EA arco isn't great for mind hunts, need two boosters to make it possible on 1/4th of your mystics. But if we'd started scrapping, I would have made up for lost time. did you have any astral?

Immaculate April 4th, 2012 02:19 PM

Re: Happy New Year, New Game, New Players (Finished: Dojango/Mictlan Wins!)
 
yes - by then i had astral. actually a fair bit. i had it for fighting neifelheim. That player was interesting. When i told him i was breaking our NAP he called me on but as soon as we went to war he decided he had had enough and went AI.

i knew this game was well and truly over when i saw your claws of kokytos take out the grendels. all i had was big tarts and devils- i had about 20-30 SCs, but thats ALL i had and... well... claws...

dojango April 4th, 2012 03:00 PM

Re: Happy New Year, New Game, New Players (Finished: Dojango/Mictlan Wins!)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Immaculate (Post 800715)
yes - by then i had astral. actually a fair bit. i had it for fighting neifelheim. That player was interesting. When i told him i was breaking our NAP he called me on but as soon as we went to war he decided he had had enough and went AI.

i knew this game was well and truly over when i saw your claws of kokytos take out the grendels. all i had was big tarts and devils- i had about 20-30 SCs, but thats ALL i had and... well... claws...

yeah, blood is kinda OP in that regard, should at least hsve some sort of check on it even if it doesn't actually kill the SC. I am kind of curious to see what would have happened when I dropped 20 sirens into your cap and had them lure your researchers into the sea. Ah well.

Excist April 4th, 2012 03:01 PM

Re: Happy New Year, New Game, New Players (Finished: Dojango/Mictlan Wins!)
 
Hmm. For guys like wendigos and tarts doesn't claws just send them away for a few turns to get exp in hell?

Immaculate April 4th, 2012 04:28 PM

Re: Happy New Year, New Game, New Players (Finished: Dojango/Mictlan Wins!)
 
good thing i had moved my researchers out of the cap :)

Immaculate April 4th, 2012 04:29 PM

Re: Happy New Year, New Game, New Players (Finished: Dojango/Mictlan Wins!)
 
it would have devastated my crafters though.

dojango April 4th, 2012 05:13 PM

Re: Happy New Year, New Game, New Players (Finished: Dojango/Mictlan Wins!)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Excist (Post 800720)
Hmm. For guys like wendigos and tarts doesn't claws just send them away for a few turns to get exp in hell?

well, there are two spells, one sends them to the icy hells, the other to the fire hells. each turn you have a chance of being attacked by the denizens, and also a 10% of returning to the owner's territory. SCs that are not immune to ice/fire are likely to fatigue out and die in any combat, though.

Immaculate April 4th, 2012 05:28 PM

Re: Happy New Year, New Game, New Players (Finished: Dojango/Mictlan Wins!)
 
as an aside, i think many of the high end blood summons come back from the hells with a higher chance per turn. they have a 'return from hell' tag in the wiki. Or something like that.

Immaculate April 14th, 2012 04:51 PM

Re: Happy New Year, New Game, New Players (Finished: Dojango/Mictlan Wins!)
 
Please tell lamaserver the game is ended. I've gotten two e-mails to submit my turn now since the game has ended.

Excist April 15th, 2012 01:51 AM

Re: Happy New Year, New Game, New Players (Finished: Dojango/Mictlan Wins!)
 
Dojango and I were going to do an experiment when we get a chance, and then you dragged me into your shared AAR experiment which has made that difficult ;)

I'll remove you from the game and turn off reminders.

Excist April 15th, 2012 02:12 AM

Re: Happy New Year, New Game, New Players (Finished: Dojango/Mictlan Wins!)
 
actually it turns out that I can't administratively remove you. You have to set yourself to AI :)

Immaculate April 15th, 2012 10:20 AM

Re: Happy New Year, New Game, New Players (Finished: Dojango/Mictlan Wins!)
 
k- no worries. didnt know u were running an experiment.

Excist April 15th, 2012 12:49 PM

Re: Happy New Year, New Game, New Players (Finished: Dojango/Mictlan Wins!)
 
just when you get a chance you can send a turn just turning yourself ai and then I can force host.

messages are already turned off so nobody should be getting any more llamaserver spam.


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