Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [in progress]
 

Two stalls in a row for Samoht and no response to messages... looks like another MIA. I guess we'll start looking for a sub if he doesn't show up shortly.

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [in progress]
 

Put in a sub request. I'm putting the timer back 24 hours to give us an opportunity to find a sub and give whoever it is a chance to get up to speed. Thanks to everyone here for hanging in there through all these shenanigans.

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [in progress]
 

Thanks for taking on the burden Adam J. Unfortunately looks like several games are losing some people at the same time.

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [in progress]
 

Schoelle has graciously offered to sub for Niefelheim. Thanks Schoelle!

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [in progress]
 

Hi - I am in the game an trying to get familiar with the positions.

I am happy to honor any NAP, so please PM me if there is something agreed (please don't cheat).

Bernd

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [in progress]
 

Greetings Schoelle, good luck and welcome to the game!

AdamJ / mattyburn7 - I don't mind taking up some admin duties if needed; though because of my timezone I am probably active only while most of you are asleep or at work.


Jotwebe of Pan -> I hope that backstabbing me despite our NAP3 was worth it. Whatever the justification (yes I sincerely appreciate your talent in roleplay and storytelling in the other AAR game), it shall be remembered.
You also pretty much voided whatever agreement you have had with any other nation.

May the Ground beneath your feet swallow your kingdom whole! :mad:

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [in progress]
 

Err... we didn't have a NAP, I'm pretty sure. After we had our first expansion party run-in in Sleepy Woods, we agreed to borders and peace, but not a NAP. If I sign those, they go into the notes file I keep on every nation. Because otherwise it'd be impossible to keep them straight. This did make me rather nervous for long stretches of the game.

Here's what I have from our archived PMs:

Re-reading that, I realize that you may have taken the "alliance against Yomi" offer as also containing a NAP. That's not how it was meant, if you had asked for one, I'd probably have accepted, but I think an alliance, without a NAP, just to kill a common neighbour is perfectly reasonable.

Anyway, as I recall it you declined, since you still had plenty of indies. At that point I was considering allying with Yomi instead (with or without NAP) and attacking you, but then Yomi grabbed some provices that would have been nicely defensible and cut me off from further expansion, so I contacted mattyburn7 instead, who had similar experiences with Yomi.

Then of course you remembered my offer and swept in at the end of the Yomi war, snatching up the capital. That's when I started researching blood ;)

So that's my view of things.

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [in progress]
 

Thanks for the offer Shard, I think we're good on the administrator front for now between me and mattyburn. Might want to revisit the issue if/when me or mattyburn get knocked out.

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [in progress]
 

I'm sorry but I will be travelling extensively again from today and for the next few weeks, is it possible to extend the current timer by another 48 hours as well as extend the overall timer by another 12 hours?

If its too much of a drag I don't mind looking for a sub.

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [in progress]
 

Shard: I went ahead and put the delay in. I'm ok with it as long as everyone else is. If you see any issues with it please let me know.
Thanks!

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I was just looking at the staling data, and it appears Agartha has been staling the last 3 turns. And here I was wondering why the Pale Ones put up so little resistance and waiting for the other shoe to drop.

Maybe shard is busier than anticipated? Anyway I think we should probably go hold until we hear from shard and if we don't look for a sub.

Wish I had realized sooner, Agartha's position was a lot better three turns ago.

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [in progress]
 

Sounds good... I was wondering what he was waiting for with his armies poised at my gates. I'll push the timer back 24hrs for now to see if we hear from him

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [in progress]
 

So Shard appears to still be absent. Any suggestions on what we should do? Should we start the sub hunt... again?

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [in progress]
 

I think so.

One solution would be to give Agartha to Balaskar and let Atlantis go AI: it's not that much of a factor now, but Agartha still could be. On the other hand, he may want to prefer to guide Atlantis to its end. Anyway, I think our two subbers should have first call, if they want to switch.

I know a couple of people who play dom3 but haven't done any MP, maybe they'll be interested in having a romp with late game stuff. And we should do the standard asking for subs, too.

EDIT: In fact, I'll just go ahead and put up a post with screenies of the graphs.

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [in progress]
 

And here it is. I put up some screenies and stuff so people can get an impression of where the game stands. If you or any of you other guys are also soliciting players, you may want to point them there.

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [in progress]
 

I don't think switching positions is really appropriate as it gives the sub information that they shouldn't be privy to. Also, sadly, Jotwebe, you are one sub behind, Anaconda is running Atlantis these days, not Balasker. Anyways, why no longer dominant, Agartha is very strong- they should be picked up fairly easily. I'm sorry for the delay folks, I'll put in another 24 hr delay while we hunt down a sub.

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [in progress]
 

Well it was a thought. Given that Atlantis at least isn't in direct conflict with Agartha, I wouldn't see it as a major problem. More so with Niefel, though.

Whoa, the door is revolving down there. Thanks, Anaconda, for helping us out.

Well, their homeland is full of Maenads. But yeah, they still have their globals, plenty of summoned stuff, and top research. I can see how it would have been hugely demotivating to end up where they are from where they were five turns ago, but for someone jumping in it'll be like a pretty cool scenario, "you've lost your homeland, can you take it back, and also deal with this guy you're invading" style.

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [in progress]
 

Adam and Jotwebe. Thanks for handling all this!

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [in progress]
 

Jotwebe- thanks alot for posting the sub request!

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [in progress]
 

Any luck on the sub request? What are we doing?

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [in progress]
 

Somebody mentioned me. I am not interested in a longer subbing, unfortunately. Only in short periods with fierce melee in sight.

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [in progress]
 

Well nobody seems to be biting. My non-MP friends are too busy, I'm afraid, and looks like our sub request is going unanswered.

Anaconda, I think you got mentioned as the current Atlantis player?

So I guess with nobody lining up to take the pale fatties, it'll have to be leaving them staling or put them on AI. I've heard it said that AI is actually worse than staling, but I find that difficult to imagine.

We could maybe put it to a vote? Don't much care myself, it'd be a walkover either way.

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [in progress]
 

Got me as to the best solution, but I can assure you he has some pretty nasty armies still, they're sitting in previously t'ien c'hi lands.

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [in progress]
 

So I'm putting the game on pause until we figure out whether to AI Agartha or keep looking for a sub. What's everyone's decision on this?

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [in progress]
 

I still think a sub would be best if possible. Let me try someone who might be interested.

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [in progress]
 

I don't mind a pause to continue the hunt for the Red October ;) a bit.

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [in progress]
 

The guy I tried wasn't interested. He's already in a bunch of games and currently doing the sub thing elsewhere. I'll bump your post again.

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [in progress]
 

Everyone. I'm on vacation from 6/22 to 7/1. I'm going to try my best to get turns in on time. I may delay a bit or may stale. Just a heads-up, but don't worry. I'm not abandoning :)

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [in progress]
 

So it appears no sub has appeared. Should we AI Agartha?

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [in progress]
 

I think we'll have to

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [in progress]
 

Wait. Maybe, I`ll find a sub tomorrow.

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [in progress]
 

Hi everyone, I'm taking over Agartha. I haven't looked at the turn yet, so I have no idea whether I can save the cavemen or just give you a better final stand. I'd like to know about all diplomatic relations and wars I'm in. I will not feel obliged to honour any previously made agreements unless informed and agreed on once again. PM me here or mail me at dom3turns(a)yahoo.se

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [in progress]
 

Wow, this is a damn mess to be sure, at least the pretender build is somewhat solid. I really don't understand what the plan was, but I'll try and salvage the rabble anyhow.

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [in progress]
 

You're also about to take my capital if that helps...

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [in progress]
 

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [in progress]
 

Hmmmm...New guy doesn't want to make friends! LOL

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [in progress]
 

Crap... Missued my turn- Sorry guys I've had some unexpected family issues... I'll try to get my turns in.

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [in progress]
 

You mean since everyone was so friendly and peaceful before? :smirk:

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [in progress]
 

Hah! We have torn down the gates of the underworld, and now revelers and maenads throng through the corridors of Agartha, defiling your holy places.

It is only a matter of time before our sacrifices will bring back the sun, reborn in blood.

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [in progress]
 

Somehow this game is a mess - that is fun ...

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [in progress]
 

I turned Atlantis AI now, its over for him. Be prepared, he has some heroes left still.

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [in progress]
 

I'm probably going to go ai in the next turn or two as well- lost almost all of my cap mages and my cap to boot...

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [in progress]
 

Who Got it? Agartha, Pangaea, or Niefel? This game is a jumbled mess!

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [in progress]
 

Agartha. Basically Agartha conquered TC but I conquered most of Agartha. Too bad that with the cave dudes turning off the light, all those provinces don't help me much.

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [in progress]
 

I went ai guys- Agartha has me dead to rights and nearly all my good mages bought the farm... Good game I had a lot of fun!

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [in progress]
 

It's generally more fun if people play it out you know. But sure, I've gone AI too sometimes.

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [in progress]
 

Thanks Adam. Hope to see you down the road. Looks like 4 of us left.

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [in progress]
 

You're right Fantomen, I'm sorry guys for going AI a bit prematurely. This game was getting a bit frustrating for me with all the dropouts- Agartha's prior god vanished with huge armies parked all over my former territories that I couldn't do much about with my cap under siege by them.

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [in progress]
 

Who is the current admin then?

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [in progress]
 

I am..We were co adminning