Re: WallWorld2 - 10/10 - Newbie-Intermediate
 

2 everyone:
Two simultaneous emails with current turn (one .trn file in each) came when last turn was processed.
Also our game lost its staling history at llamaserver: http://www.llamaserver.net/doAdminAc...ion=showstales

These are certain omens of something dreadful oncoming. Consider yourself warned!

Well, I'm joking:)
These are just accident observations, no more.

Re: WallWorld2 - 10/10 - Newbie-Intermediate
 

Yeah, I noticed that too. Wonder if it's a known bug? Hopefully nothing unfortunate will happen because of it.

Re: WallWorld2 - 10/10 - Newbie-Intermediate
 

Could we have +24 hours delay for this turn?

Re: WallWorld2 - 10/10 - Newbie-Intermediate
 

Sure, done.

Re: WallWorld2 - 10/10 - Newbie-Intermediate
 

Could I ask for 24 hours delay for this turn as well?
Closest turn(s) are probably going to be gamechanging, they literally take me several evenings each, and I poorly planned the time again.

Re: WallWorld2 - 10/10 - Newbie-Intermediate
 

Sure, in fact, I'll put 36 hours to the game clock for the rest of the game, unless someone opposes?

Re: WallWorld2 - 10/10 - Newbie-Intermediate
 

Thanks!

Re: WallWorld2 - 10/10 - Newbie-Intermediate
 

Actually it was the hardest (most effort-consuming) turn for me not just in this game, but in my whole dom3 career.
And in full accordance with Murphy Laws everything finished mainly with dissapointments and unpleasant surprises:)

Re: WallWorld2 - 10/10 - Newbie-Intermediate
 

Couldn't have been that bad, since I didn't kill anything important from you. :)

Re: WallWorld2 - 10/10 - Newbie-Intermediate
 

Maybe it was the very reason why you didn't kill anything important from me:)

Re: WallWorld2 - 10/10 - Newbie-Intermediate
 

Oh! What a ridiculous bug:(
King of Flame was one of communion masters (via Crystal Matrix) and its unique identifier copied through whole communion:(

Re: WallWorld2 - 10/10 - Newbie-Intermediate
 

It seems I finally realized what the hell has happened.

Internal upspells for communion masters are spread among whole communion. This King of Flame, Pyriphlogos, has some second form which boosts its fire magic in combat. Since he entered the combat as communion master _already_ (due to crystal matrix), not just battle upspells, but even initial form shifts were transferred. So those who entered the fight as communion slaves _already (due to slave matrixes) received. It is why all my SCs who had Slave Matrix started the battle in Pyriphlogos' battle chasis form (only physical form, they retained their magic).

So what can I say about it.
1. According to the consequences it is clear and pure bug, but it was caused by normal reverse communion mechanics multiplied by normal Crystal Matrix/Slave Matrix mechanics multiplied by normal Pyriphlogos mechanics.
2. I was totally unaware of this side effect and didn't plan anything like that.
I'm spending many hours for SP testing each turn among several last turns, but I tested other things. (Amount of features/placement/scripting to test in order to perfect one's performance seems to be neverending).
3. Such an outcome actually hit me heavily. I've lost 5 SC chasises, receiving these SCs in Pyriphlogos physical form, what is almost a lethal fighting downgrade for all of them: very low hp (in comparison with what I had), no protection, no foot slot, like -4 stats due to overaging to many of them (so utmost ridiculous strength/att/def as a result), insane penalty for my cold3 dominion ... for the exchange of fire shield.
4. Although they are still bugged, so some decisions have to be made by our admin. Tiavals, - that's up to you to judge. If you'll decide me to get rid of them, I'll get rid of them, that's fine. After all this situation is caused solely by my overcomplicated plans and features multiplication I didn't backed up with enough testing.

Re: WallWorld2 - 10/10 - Newbie-Intermediate
 

That is certainly one of the strangest bugs I've seen.

Were they actually Grendelkin? A pretty huge downgrade if so. :)

Edit: Might want to report it to the CBM team if you haven't already, although I'm not sure if such a bug can be fixed seeing as how the boosted battle forms work.

I have no problem with them. I'd rather not redo a turn as I've had bad experiences with such things, so if you can live with it, so can I, since it probably hit you much worse than me.

Re: WallWorld2 - 10/10 - Newbie-Intermediate
 

Empowered ones. (Crystal/slave matrices don't work for commanders without magic).

No, no, redoing turn is not an option here. It can harm a game in a whole.

I will.

Re: WallWorld2 - 10/10 - Newbie-Intermediate
 

Suppose we'll continue as normal then? I doubt it has hindered your ability to win that much, all things considered. :)

Re: WallWorld2 - 10/10 - Newbie-Intermediate
 

Ok, let's go.

P.S. It seems I've got some subconscious aversion towards Grendelkins, what causes me to suicide them in various contranatural means:)
I've drowned two full-kitted Grendelkins in the very beginning of the war. Some unusual movement was planned, and I can swear I tested that in SP. At least I'm under such impression. But when I employed that in actual game, they drowned:)

Re: WallWorld2 - 10/10 - Newbie-Intermediate
 

I wonder if I should share the admin powers to everyone in the game? As my turns are pretty fast and I have little to do, I don't watch the forums that much, so if you need to postpone hosting, it'd be good if you could do it by yourself, instead of waiting for me to notice it.

Does anyone oppose this?

Re: WallWorld2 - 10/10 - Newbie-Intermediate
 

I'm ok with it. I think we are all a trustworthy group.

Re: WallWorld2 - 10/10 - Newbie-Intermediate
 

I see no problem with this at this point. It will also be an interesting approach to admin.

Re: WallWorld2 - 10/10 - Newbie-Intermediate
 

I'm fine with whatever decision here.

Re: WallWorld2 - 10/10 - Newbie-Intermediate
 

Ok, I'll send an admin message with the password to everyone. Feel free to delay the turn processing as you feel fit. But don't mess with anything else. :)

Re: WallWorld2 - 10/10 - Newbie-Intermediate
 

Damn, a stale. I've been very busy this week and as my only other game is on hold, I totally forgot about this turn. Will try to pay more attention next time.

Re: WallWorld2 - 10/10 - Newbie-Intermediate
 

24 hours self granted extension-

Re: WallWorld2 - 10/10 - Newbie-Intermediate
 

Congratulation to peers with the 100th turn we just hit.

Re: WallWorld2 - 10/10 - Newbie-Intermediate
 

Everyone,
As we've been talking the recent days, the game is over and R'yleh is the winner. Congratulations Chelubey.
Thanks to everyone sticking until the end, Tiavals for setting up the game, and Mattyburn for taking over Machaka until turn ¡101 !
I may write something about the game one of these days. Hope to see you all in Dom 4, though probably not for a while in my case. Good game, I got to see many of the end game stuff around. I got the Hammer as a gift and it was wished away in a blink. Talk about power :P

Re: WallWorld2 - 10/10 - Newbie-Intermediate
 

Congrats Chelubey...was a fun game. I was always a bit player, but I enjoyed. Take care y'all hope to see everyone around soon!

Re: WallWorld2 - 10/10 - Newbie-Intermediate
 

Those were turns 86-88 which defined result. Opposition of largest Shinuyama's army and largest R'lyeh's army on the isthmus to the south-east from Ulm finished whem Shinuyama attacked. Both parties brought tremendous forces (up to a score of SCs from each side backed by several scores of mages backed by hundreds of chaff), so were the casualties of goblins when they lost it. The loss of several empowered Grendelkins due to the Pyriphlogos form which propagated through communion was not that heavy, since goblins lost everything, while I took insane heap of loot.

Simultaneously in the former Mictlan's lands second Shinuyama's largest army divided in several parts - something what helped me to easily kill them one by one.

These several turns seemingly decided the destiny of the game.

Re: WallWorld2 - 10/10 - Newbie-Intermediate
 

Thanks everyone for the company and Tiavals for the game. It took a while to make it go, we even had a false start in the beginning, although it resulted in good and challenging game.

Re: WallWorld2 - 10/10 - Newbie-Intermediate
 

Congrats to chelubey for the well deserved win, and thanks for participating to everyone. Now I'll leave behind the dust of Dom3 and enter the glorious world of Dom4, when it ultimately comes out. :)