Re: Rock the Cradle--Noob Only! (RUNNING)
 

yeah, rollback+new patch is just asking for disaster. too bad you guys rolled the game back so quickly, and I was busy with other things that day, so I didn't even reply in this thread. but as 1 of you said here earlier, I would have strongly objected to it because of these exact things. a bug with armor of virtue? I'm pretty sure it was a known bug already, in fact armor of virtue has quite a few bugs related to it that are known. that certainly is no reason for a rollback Imho, especially when also transitioning into a new patch.

I haven't looked at my new turn yet, so I have no idea how it's looking from my perspective. but I suspect you're not the only 1 with bugs. we'll have to wait and see how many other bugs already popped up for everyone else to see where we want to go from here. but for next time, please for the love of god stop being so trigger happy regarding rollbacks! rollbacks are a serious trouble spot, which is why llamabeast posted that warning on llamaserver and requests you to submit "I am sure", he did that from experience, not because he's a meanie. it's a known issue that keeps repeating itself in various manifestations, basically it's a beast better left slumbering than awakened.

Re: Rock the Cradle--Noob Only! (RUNNING)
 

s**t! I'd bet it's a rollback f**kup.

I have no idea how to deal with this. I think the choices are:

1. Live with it
2. Try another rollback, and hope this one comes without bugs
3. Pester Llamabeast, or someone else who knows what they are doing
4. Throw in the towel on the game

Anyone who checks this post, please drop a reply saying which one to go for.

Personally I'm leaning towards another rollback.


Right, yeah, good point on the Rollback+Patch over...

Re: Rock the Cradle--Noob Only! (RUNNING)
 

rolling back for an AoV bug is a no-no. AoV is always somewhat unreliable - you want to use it, you take the risks.

Your only real option I think is to rollback, wipe out all the .2h's and have everyone complete a fresh turn - do not resubmit the old turn!

good luck :)

Re: Rock the Cradle--Noob Only! (RUNNING)
 

I say we just live with it. I seem to be the only one effected anyway and it doesn't hurt me too much (Well, 13 unusable in combat hoplite mystics cause they have spellcasting enc 15 sucks and 13 mystic UNITS instead of hoplites)

Re: Rock the Cradle--Noob Only! (RUNNING)
 

no further rollback, as long as Shinuyama isnt finished off ;)

Re: Rock the Cradle--Noob Only! (RUNNING)
 

yeah, that's 1 of the main issues. many people don't realize that after a rollback you need to delete both the .trn and .2h files before inserting the rollbacked turn. that's 1 of the primary sources of rollback induced errors. than there are the other usual suspects like people using different OPs(operating systems, windows xp, vista, 7, as well as various linux and whatever else people use), than you mix the usual random errors related with rollbacks and on top of it all add a new patch. it was just a horrible decision to make this rollback to begin with, but we can't spin back the wheel, so I just hope you new game hosts out there learn from all these mistakes and stop being so trigger happy on clicking the rollback option for any minor issue that pops up in whatever game. it's just not worth it.

so, as we can't spin back the wheel, we gotta make do with what we have. I doubt rerolling back after a rollback+patch will actually solve the problems, not to mention not add any new problems. however it's worth a shot as we can't really continue with a variety of bugs. I'm afraid that eventually we'll have to throw in the towel, but before that we certainly need a rollback, delete all the previous files and submit new turns(not the previous turns like the current rollback).

Re: Rock the Cradle--Noob Only! (RUNNING)
 

I might just start playing the lottery! :p

Re: Rock the Cradle--Noob Only! (RUNNING)
 

No more rollbacks! If we're going to keep doing that, you'll need to find a sub for me.

Re: Rock the Cradle--Noob Only! (RUNNING)
 

Okay, someone has to explain this sixth global **** to me. I know I put more pearls into that damn Nexus than anyone has put into any enchantments to date, yet somehow Pangaea's Carrion Woods, with 90 gems DISPELLED my freaking 170 pearl Nexus on the ****ing turn it was cast.

I really- REALLY need someone to explain to me how this damn system works cause at the moment it just looks like 'cast a global, replace an old global of any size and price no problem!'.

Re: Rock the Cradle--Noob Only! (RUNNING)
 

I don't know how the globals work. but let me put forward my emmence gratitude that we arn't having to deal with a nexus at this stage :P.

I was sure the mother oak was toast when I saw 2 globals...

guess the lategame has begun, gentlemen.

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In other news, any further rollback bugs?