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oleg	September 3rd, 2003 05:46 PM

Re: AI Campaign => For a Challenging AI opponent

What gaps ???

I don't see any gaps in the file http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif

Hmm, it may be because different text editors react differently to TABS delimeter. How does SEIV treats TABS ???

JLS	September 3rd, 2003 05:59 PM

Re: AI Campaign => For a Challenging AI opponent

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Originally posted by oleg:
What gaps ???

I don't see any gaps in the file http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif

Hmm, it may be because different text editors react differently to TABS delimeter. How does SEIV treats TABS ???

try to load and veiw with NOTE PAD http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

JLS	September 3rd, 2003 06:37 PM

Re: AI Campaign => For a Challenging AI opponent

Bottom line folks�

I agree with Oleg�s theory and do plan to order the file as he suggested.

I believe the Random events will be as you are used to. If not enhanced with other Events to now be thrown in the mix and this is the solitary result of Olegs work, for if you wish not to have catastrophic events you may now shut them off correctly.

JLS	September 3rd, 2003 07:03 PM

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Originally posted by PsychoTechFreak:
Longterm observations about 1.5 (realtime) years ago:

- galactic peace within the first 2 years, means no events from 2400.0 until 2401.9, never.
- the master planet is NEVER affected by high and catastrophic events, just by low and medium events
Definition "master planet": The planet that is selected at game start, first cursor, means in a one homeplanet game this would be the homeplanet. In a 10 planets game, the master planet would be immune from high/catastrophic events, the other 9 could be affected, this goes along also with system events, like star explosions.

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Originally posted by PsychoTechFreak:
With multiple HW starts yes, but there was always one planet (master) never affected by high/catastrophic events. I checked this with a modded event.txt, just the 4 severities with a text popup for the severity which has taken place. Some thousand turns later, almost everything but the master HP has blown up.

Oleg, what are your thoughts on this, I believe PTF is on the mark here, I do not recall ever having an event; even Plague for example let alone a High or catastrophic event on a Home World with default one Planet se4 gold start.

This information is needed and is important, in other words should we worry about the Home World,for its Population and Facilities when and if we re-categorize the levels of any Events.

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Only other Event reference available:

Version 1.66: 9. Fixed - Abilities "Change Bad Event Chance - System" and "Change Bad Intelligence
Chance - System" were not always working.

Version 1.60: 11. Fixed - Emotionless races cannot be induced to riot through intelligence or
natural events.

Version 1.43: 5. Fixed - If an event caused a planet to explode, then sometimes an error would
be generated.

Version 1.25: 1. Fixed - The meteor strike event was happening every turn.

Version 1.20: 1. Fixed - A colony with no population could still suffer from
a firestorm event.
Version 1.17: 8. Fixed - The Trade disrupted intelligence event should not occur if there
is no real trade between two empires.

[ September 03, 2003, 19:06: Message edited by: JLS ]

JLS	September 3rd, 2003 07:49 PM

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Originally posted by Grand Lord Vito:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />
I think the storage of Crystall and Temporal cultural centters should be increased. It is VERY difficult to utilize all those extra radioactives in early game, before inventing advanced cryst/temp weapons.

Agreed, in a Finite game this is a fine opportunity to build those old fashioned Storage facilities early, they are cheap and very quick to build even with the youngest of Colonies.

However in a standard game the surplus, is just superfluities and not to worry.

Additionally in all games this Surplus of any one or more resource will really come in handy for exchange at your Trade Center or with other Empires if so lucky to have a friendly trade partner; for resources needed
(early food for example, for those extra Star Liners and Colonizers) http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

I play Temporal like Oleg but usually play with Finite resources and the RADS do add up and trading does help (A LOT) in all resources not just organics

JLS how about you lower the Stroage Facility costs even more, relly what can they be-just a building with a fork truck http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

I notice you guys play Dual Races - hmm need to check this out http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif <hr /></blockquote>Agreed, just a low cost automated warehouse the Storage facilities shall be.

They will be lowered to the lowest possible costs. Basically almost free at low levels, this way they will be quickly built early and then bulldozed after a few cities are built when playing Finite games http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Thanks GLV, and Oleg, good idea http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

oleg	September 3rd, 2003 08:11 PM

Re: AI Campaign => For a Challenging AI opponent

I never had a patience to play Non-connected game http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif
What is a reasonable game/race set up to have a warp point opener ASAP ? I still want to have normal tech. cost, 1 medium HW and 2K race though http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Fyron

September 3rd, 2003 08:38 PM

Re: AI Campaign => For a Challenging AI opponent

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NO, AIC is not compatible with any other mod that will overwrite one, any or all AI Campaigns - Ai, DATA, Empires and Pictures Files/Subfolders or Folders. This covers most if not all MODS today.

JLS	September 3rd, 2003 10:09 PM

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Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
<blockquote>quote:<hr /> NO, AIC is not compatible with any other mod that will overwrite one, any or all AI Campaigns - Ai, DATA, Empires and Pictures Files/Subfolders or Folders. This covers most if not all MODS today.

I disagree. You can certainly easily use Ultimate Strategies Mod in AIC, as it is just Formations and DefaultStrategies files (that are important). FQM Standard and Deluxe can also be added in with not too much work. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif <hr /></blockquote>Actually, YOUR Formations file is used in AIC if I am not mistaken and it is great. And you are right, as long as the AI has its Formation supplied within http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Regarding DefaultStrategies files the AI in AIC require it own logic for Fighter Attack, Optimal Firing Range and Maximum Weapons Range to a lesser degree others. This is mainly for the Tactical Fighters Priorities and Satellites being shot at by AI ships that pack primarily only missiles and other miscellaneous AI reasons in AIC�

FQM Standard and Deluxe I am licking my chops for this to be ADDED on AIC with your Images, your anomalies, this is outstanding work and I would like to put a few PURE FQM Quadrants in for the Players choose, from the Quadrant menu when starting a new game asap, I receive at least 2 to 3 E-mails a month to get this in with QBrigid being your biggest fan. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[ September 03, 2003, 21:19: Message edited by: JLS ]

QBrigid

September 3rd, 2003 11:01 PM

Re: AI Campaign => For a Challenging AI opponent

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Originally posted by JLS:
FQM Standard and Deluxe I am licking my chops for this to be ADDED on AIC with your Images, your anomalies, this is outstanding work and I would like to put a few PURE FQM Quadrants in for the Players choose, from the Quadrant menu when starting a new game asap, I receive at least 2 to 3 E-mails a month to get this in with QBrigid being your biggest fan. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif [/QB]

Now that this is out of the bag when do plan to add FQM, Sully http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

QBrigid

September 3rd, 2003 11:07 PM

Re: AI Campaign => For a Challenging AI opponent

Quote:

Originally posted by oleg:
I never had a patience to play Non-connected game http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif
What is a reasonable game/race set up to have a warp point opener ASAP ? I still want to have normal tech. cost, 1 medium HW and 2K race though http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

You may be soon hooked Oleg. Not-connected is all I play - the no warp point option.

From what I understand you like the Temporal Race and they are real brainy to begin with, they also will build that warp opener much faster then my Psychics so you are in great shape. I put the extra points into Science and a little in Maintenance but I think PsycoTechFreak said a long time ago that Science, Rock and get to steller 2 as fast as possable is the Key in a No-Warp game.

Before I forget, always use the Engineering Section on your Warp-Openers it will save you a bunch. Always build your Trade Center early http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

I like Rich Clusters on a Large map with no warp everything else is default. Or any Map on the top of the list up to where it suggest you to stop.

The Eee by far is the Best no warp AI Player, not to worry they are pretty friendly and I have no problem sharing space with them or other friendly Races. I love following the Eees lead they are even good enough to create all my Planets from the Asteroids that do not have a Outpost in orbit. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

AI bonus of none is best; they get pretty frisky at a low bonus in a no warp game http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif

I am not a good of a player as you so most of the time I start with some MP bonus points http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/blush.gif

I will only play that game if I like my start, it must have at least one breathable planet and a few other rock types http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

I hope eveything was covered, does anyone else have some suggestion.

Have fun http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[ September 03, 2003, 22:37: Message edited by: QBrigid ]

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