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ano May 27th, 2010 12:11 PM

Re: Noobs and Vets II: Days of Infamy. MA, BI. In Progress.
 
4 hours left till hosting. Perhaps I will wait a couple of hours with reuploading the turn. Maybe Gandalf will look at the issue...

Gandalf Parker May 27th, 2010 12:24 PM

Re: Noobs and Vets II: Days of Infamy. MA, BI. In Progress.
 
Running a verify on the 2h files seems to show that most of the 2h files are for turn 9, but ermors is for turn 7. This would seem to be an advantage of direct connect over email. Its saying immediately that it has no turn file yet for Ermor for this turn

ano May 27th, 2010 12:25 PM

Re: Noobs and Vets II: Days of Infamy. MA, BI. In Progress.
 
Ermor's file showed up as fine a few hours ago (since yesterday, actually). Only Ulm was left.
Well, no problem, I'll reupload it. Hope this doesn't happen again.

ano May 27th, 2010 12:27 PM

Re: Noobs and Vets II: Days of Infamy. MA, BI. In Progress.
 
Also, how could it happen that there's a turn 7 file for Ermor? We could suppose it was left from previous turn but that's impossible because previous turn was turn 8. So, the server somehow accepted that turn 7 file or it is just not the file that was uploaded.

rdonj May 27th, 2010 12:40 PM

Re: Noobs and Vets II: Days of Infamy. MA, BI. In Progress.
 
The llamaserver doesn't accept incorrectly numbered turns, so it's not really problem for it. Certainly though, it seems to be a good idea to use direct connect for your server.

ano May 27th, 2010 12:42 PM

Re: Noobs and Vets II: Days of Infamy. MA, BI. In Progress.
 
Quote:

The llamaserver doesn't accept incorrectly numbered turns, so it's not really problem for it.
Yes, and actually it looks strange that invalid turn .2h's pass server verification.. This should be implemented by Dominions engine itseld, shouldn't it?

ano May 27th, 2010 01:20 PM

Re: Noobs and Vets II: Days of Infamy. MA, BI. In Progress.
 
Ok, 3 hours left and I submitted Ermor's turn. And I really hope situation like this doesn't occur in future.

Gandalf Parker May 27th, 2010 02:00 PM

Re: Noobs and Vets II: Days of Infamy. MA, BI. In Progress.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ano (Post 746863)
Quote:

The llamaserver doesn't accept incorrectly numbered turns, so it's not really problem for it.
Yes, and actually it looks strange that invalid turn .2h's pass server verification.. This should be implemented by Dominions engine itseld, shouldn't it?

It is. It wasnt showing an accepted file for Ermor.
Plus the file verify command which is part of dom3 (dom3 --verify gamename). LLama was shown it and uses the same principle to check his. By advantage of direct over email I meant in general, not comparing how the two servers manage.

The new ermor file sent does now check as turn 9, and the game shows it received, so we should not have a problem.

ano May 27th, 2010 02:02 PM

Re: Noobs and Vets II: Days of Infamy. MA, BI. In Progress.
 
Ok, I will not argue. Perhaps 3 people were just blind :) Hope this doesn't happen again.
Thanks for your input.

But... Just another question already asked above.

Quote:

Also, how could it happen that there's a turn 7 file for Ermor? We could suppose it was left from previous turn but that's impossible because previous turn was turn 8. So, the server somehow accepted that turn 7 file or it is just not the file that was uploaded.
How would you explain this? If the server did NOT accept the invalid turn (or no turn was sent) then there should have been turn 8, not 7 (Could be 7 if Ermor staled the previous turn but he didn't). I can't explain the situation for myself and I'm still pretty sure that it was showing only Ulm with a cross a few hours ago. But again, let's just hope it doesn't happen again.

And regarding DC vs PBEM concepts, what I like in PBEM is that you can always see what you have sent. Any email server or local email client store outgoing email. And now I just have no proof to my words and can't prove them even to myself:)

Gandalf Parker May 27th, 2010 02:43 PM

Re: Noobs and Vets II: Days of Infamy. MA, BI. In Progress.
 
I didnt say it refused a turn 7 file. Just that it didnt count it.
Id have to do some testing on sending in old files to get an answer.
Im also hopeful it doesnt happen again. :)
But we all know from experience that at least such things can be seen prior to a hosting.

You can verify the files you have at your end the same as I did. Using the --verify switch. And possibly use one of the backup utilities posted in order to store a copy of the file you sent


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