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I'll put the game up now and add you guys. I'll be at home most of tomorrow, so when you agree on the map (etc.), I'll be able to get you guys started. PS: I'm posting this thinking that Asmala will not mind but if he prefers someone else, it won't upset me http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif . |
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Think we have agreed on Geo's ballance mod and no ancient. As for other settings; I'm game with anything. [ July 04, 2004, 17:33: Message edited by: primitive ] |
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Slynky vs Zharktas - 2404.4
Zharktas surrenders. I salute Zharktas' efforts as he learns to play in wicked 1 x 1 games. I think the key to his game will be to learn to expand better and I, hopefully, gave him a few tips. KOTH (and other PBW games) needs energetic new players who are such great sports even when faced with a tough game. Three words, Zharktas: Expansion, expansion, expansion! I urge others to give tips as they play...it's the best way to help him learn from his mistakes. Keep playing, Zharktas. I'll be there to cheer your first win! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif |
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That I can concur with. Expansion is the key to power in SEIV, as nothing can save you if you do not have enough colonies at your disposal. But then, my views may be a bit biased by my own focus on economics (you won't see me giving much interest to the military). http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif
Speaking of which, I should brace myself to stand against the next player to reach my level of the hill. Last time I had the Steamroller, so it cannot get worse, can it? Oh, and good luck against the Usurper Primitive. I am putting my marbles on you as usual. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif |
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Koth page is updated.
Thanks for hosting the King game Slynky (in other words, I don't prefer anyone else http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif ). Primitive, I'd like to add one more rule: no talisman. |
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Also, Any preferances for starting planets, or should we leave that up to Slynky ? |
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Also, Any preferances for starting planets, or should we leave that up to Slynky ? </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Starting planet (number and size) choice is up to you guys (after all, one must design based on that, right?). Just let me know. PS: I think Alneyan and I have the "worldwide copyright" on the term, RiotRuns ™ (LOL). It's good that you showed it was trademarked http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif . |
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PS: I assume I need to add a game to the Ratings list for the KOTH game, right? |
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I've no preferences for starting planets. [ July 06, 2004, 14:58: Message edited by: Asmala ] |
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Asmala: Check your Messages http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif [ July 06, 2004, 13:41: Message edited by: primitive ] |
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Since we need to achieve a decision in settings I propose one good starting planet.
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I think that's all. Good luck to you too. [ July 06, 2004, 15:26: Message edited by: Asmala ] |
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KOTH Game!
Game posted: Verified to contain no ruins and balanced starting positions. Let's keep this a fair fight. Primitive, no hitting below the belt and Asmala, no calculators permitted in the ring http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif . Updates would be nice (after all, you guys are in the spotlight). |
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Well, drat! Seems like Primitive is getting an "incompatible" error trying to open the game.
P, to answer your question, I set the Path.txt file to point to the Balance mod folder. Then I started 1.91. Turned off ruins and generated maps over and over and saved off 6 interesting ones. "Tabbed" out and opened the editor. After a while, I had found one I liked and set points and saved off the map. Exited the map editor. Loaded the map into SE4 (Version 1.91 as it's the only Version I have now). Loaded one of my "Ancient" empires and looked at "Specials" to verify no ruins and verify it was placing me in one of the 2 starting places. Canceled the game and created another one. This time, loading Asmala's empire first, then yours, and, of course, the map I made. Made all the other settings I needed to. Then I ran the initial turn and uploaded to PBW. You are correct that you don't need the Balance mod for you to play a game on it. I'm not sure what is happening but I pulled the file down from PBW here at work (a completely different PC with 1.91 on it) and loaded it up. Told it to run a turn (and of course, it asked me if I wanted to run it without either of the 2 player files). It ran fine. (I'm not sure if that is a good test or not since I didn't actually load up a player's turn). I think we need to let Asmala give it a try. He's generated a lot of games and maybe he can see if it runs on his PC and offer suggestions as to what might be wrong. Sorry for the problem http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif |
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I can't open the file either.
I think the problem is that you've Balance mod Version 1.1 which uses 1.86 data files. Version 1.2 uses 1.91 data files. |
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I apologize (as I know everyone was excited to get playing) and I'll redo the turn tonight. After all, if the both of you are having a problem, there must be something wrong on my end. Primitive might be up in time to see the replacement file and test. Around 6:45 pm EDT. |
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Besides, it is my belief he is mocking you by his petty request, which would qualify as "insulting, or using verbal abuse of any sort, the referee or hindering the normal course of the game". As such, I hereby ask you to give Asmala a yellow card (or something along these lines; let's not worry about the colour), which will allow Primitive to remove Asmala, the offending party, from the game during five turns of Primitive's chosing. With all due respect, Alneyan, in the name of his client, Primitive. *Gnarls* *They* are already plotting. That rule cannot be fear, as while Primitive is forbidden to strike as he wills, Asmala merely needs to put his calculator back in the cloakroom. It isn't as if Slynky doesn't know that Asmala can quote a formula in a heartbeat, and setting up a retroseries is a walk in a part for him (calculators or not). I wouldn't be surprised to know that Slynky has been bribed. Tsk. As if I would stoop to such base tricks! I had but thought of rigging the game by asking Primitive to lose, but even the prospects of a lot of money for him weren't enough to secure his agreement. I could have easily won a few grands this way, but no, Primitive spoke of "pride", "honour" and "honesty". His mistake I guess. *Shrugs and goes back among the other spectators* Please forgive me for my silliness. Now back to your regularly scheduled programmes. [ July 08, 2004, 19:53: Message edited by: Alneyan ] |
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KOTH Game
Replacement game uploaded. Yes, Asmala, you were right. Still had 1.1 instead of 1.2 (though I'm still scratching my head http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif ). My goal, in setting up important games, is fairness. Then, an interesting map. I just want to say this map is interesting and it was genuinely rolled up under Balanced Spiral (small). Enjoy! PS: Primitive is still Online and hopefully can let me know right away if there is (yet) another problem. |
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Yes, my friend, Alneyan, I see your point http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif . However, I must refrain from taking a "yellow card" action as (1) I'm sure the insult went right over the Primitive One's head and (2) the referee DOES allow verbal heckling/insults (because the audience enjoys them so much http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif ).
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Game looks OK Slynky, no problem there.
As for your other post; I'm 6'6, very little goes over my head http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif Asmala can bring a slide ruleR if he wants. The ruleS however, should be fixed and not sliding http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif |
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[edit] - To apologize once again. My best friend, Lord Chane, is 6'8 (so, I can imagine a bit what it's like standing next to you). [ July 08, 2004, 23:51: Message edited by: Slynky ] |
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Apologize for what ?
If there is something you need to apologize for, that went straight over my head http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif |
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I imagine everyone is as anxious as I am to see where they are starting and get a look at the map that they will have to decipher to win. So, it's a letdown when the darn thing won't run! And, BTW, once more, this is a spiral map that's a bit different. Hope it adds to the game instead of taking away. Keep us posted, guys! |
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Speaking of this game Slynky, may I give you a genuine advice? I hope you have a pretty good insurance; if not, you should consider leaving the ring as soon as the match has started. I happen to be the referee for the first king game between Primitive and Asmala (AKA the Pairs game), and I can tell you being the referee isn't a leisure there. In fact, while Primitive understands the rules well, Asmala seems to have confused the honourable referee (myself) with his competitor, Primitive. You should make sure he knows the goal is to knock down his opponent, and not to maim the referee in any way. At least, this game should be much more relaxing for me than that other one where I am "in the way". http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif [ July 10, 2004, 12:56: Message edited by: Alneyan ] |
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Thanks for settings up the game Slynky! Shrapnel forums were down when I was Lastly Online so I'm posting this only now.
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It's turn 11 now and we've met with Primitive.
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KOTH Gozguy vs Mark 2407.0
Standard settings. I hope Gozguy doesn't think it presumptious of me to call it at this point. I've glassed every enemy planet and have "lost contact with the Chin empire". It's true however that he does still have 1 (one) colony ship left, which may just about get to land its colony before being blown to hell by the two light cruisers that are a couple of squares away... We started with only two systems between us. I pushed forward with missile ships as early as possible, and Gozguy - not being Ancient - probably didn't realise the danger until I was adjacent to his home system. I was able to block any expansion in my direction, and - after several attempts - break into his home system and glass his homeworld. Gozguy was able to expand very fast in the other direction, and must have colonised around 2/3rds of the volume of the galaxy. However, after the loss of his homeworld he was never able to put up any serious resistance in space, and clearing up all those colonies became more of an exercise in logistics than anything else. I'm impressed that he carried on playing so long. I think the three critical factors were; 1) I was lucky enough to have a much nicer home system than his, with two breathable planets in it. 2) Having Ancient, I had a big advantage knowing where he started and being able to dictate the border. 3) Gozguy was a bit slow to build warships once we made contact, and wasn't properly prepared to defend his home system. Or maybe he had resource problems - not sure. Anyway, that's it (or, if Gozguy insists, we have one more turn to process http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif ) *strolls up to the crest of the hill, whistling* |
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Koth page updated.
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Gravey managed to get the better of Stonemill. Looks like I might be up for a rematch with Slynky...
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I love this game!!
Gandalph vs. Parabolize 2405.2 Mostly standard setup. The Corrian have struck first. As soon as the Corrian had the mine sweeping capability, they launched an attack into the Fwandrei system. All four Black Lotus colonies were lost. After this triumphant "take that" move by the Corrian, they thought they could mosey home to make repairs. All of a sudden, a fleet of 25 Black Lotus ships enter the system. Within 2 sectors already, the Corrian fleet could not avoid the obvious. "These guys want a fight? Then that's what we'll give 'em!" Admiral Thantro was not known for giving up in a fight. Both fleets were positioned for battle, and the next month could swing advantage one way or the other. |
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OK thats it! I have now written "I will not send good untrained ships into battle" 100 times on a sheet of paper. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/blush.gif
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As the space dust settled, Admiral Thantro was glad for all the rigorous traing Grand Cardinal Qatar had commanded. It had paid off in the battle of Fwandrei. Admiral Thantro still had 25 ships in his fleet, though some were admittedly damaged, while the enemies fleet was gone.
"90% hit rate to his 50%. That's a figure I can live with!" Admiral Thantro was proud of his achievement. He enjoyed his achievments for a short while though, as the orders to secure the Fwandrei system had been recieved. "An excellent blow to our enemies in the name of the Xanto. May his glory guide you." Grand Cardinal Qatar came to understand the leader of the military. "We must now secure that system as our own," he exclaimed. Too Be Continued... |
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King game: Asmala the Usurper VS Primitive the “hey, It’s my turn to be the king” guy.
Turn 38. Geo’s Balance Mod, No Warpopeners, both of us took standard Clone empires without any racials. Slynky made a “nice” http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif open spiral map with 35 systems and placed us close to the ends, making it basically a double string of systems with the outer (st)ring not continuously connected. With no warpopeners allowed, there is little room for any strategic manoeuvring. When we are ready the game will probably be decided by a few large battles over one or two WP’s. Certainly different http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif So far, nothing much has happened (takes a bit of time to colonize 17 x 4 planets from a 1 planet start). The map is divided smack down the middle. There are 2 border WP’s. Asmala has pushed a colony into my side on the main border, while I hold the WP on the secondary “forked off” border. The usurper has been in front on points for most of the game, but it’s still early days so no need to worry (yet) http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif |
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I'll be away till next Monday. I'll have a net connection but neither SE4 nor possibility to update Koth page.
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So, Primitive One, you don't like the map? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif
I thought it was a bit strange and I also thought it would be a good map to test the abilities of 2 superb players...to see who could react the fastest. It's so common for a spiral galaxy to have a way around each "side" of the "circle" (or center). Since there were 2 avenues of approach (in other words, not just a single choke point), I thought it would be OK. |
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Map is cool, but I’m not sure how it plays yet. It might produce some grand battles, but then again the game might just deadlock. With the balance mod, equal sized empires and none of us being able to snatch the others population (yet) we should be able to field equal strength fleets, giving the advantage to the defender. Unless someone has the guts to try an early rush, this could turn into a very (very) long game.
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King game: Asmala vs Primitive, Turn 41
The first battles have occured. I sent a tiny fleet to Primitive's system where I had the one planet. The fleet consisted of six ships, two beging sweepers (sweeping capacity 20), three little warships and one satellite layer (build at first turns of the game). The satellite layer ship had three troops loaded, and those troops did a brilliant job capturing one of Primitive's planets. Now the transport is heading towards my area where I have good CO2 planets waiting for Primitive's people. As Primitive said both of us got an approximately equal size of galaxy, but this planet invasion helps me quite a lot. Now I'm just waiting what evil tricks Primitive has reserved for me... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif |
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Gloater http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif
Nice move http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif BTW, those sat-layers keep puzzling me. Any reason behind that particular design ? |
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Well, I just surrendered to Renegade 13 today... Was an amazing game of about 100 turns. The tide swept back and forth but alas I neglected to expand when I thought I was dealing the finishing blow...
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I haven't looked at the turn yet LonghornXtreme, but I know that this was indeed a great game. Several times I thought you had me. The first time, mines saved me when you didn't have any sweepers yet, and the second time (when you had a fleet of 12 ships heading for my homeworld), mines again saved me. I didn't even find your homeworld, I'm surprised you surrendered already. I guess it was inevitable though.
But anyways, I thank you for a great game, I was always anxiously opening the new turns, waiting for whatever surprise you had in store for me. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif Well played, and good luck in your next game. [ July 27, 2004, 04:51: Message edited by: Renegade 13 ] |
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