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Asmala September 13th, 2004 05:11 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the \"King of the Hi
 
Once again, the Koth page is updated.

Alneyan September 13th, 2004 05:24 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the \"King of the Hi
 
You have my sympathy Asmala; good luck with finding new ideas to make your status update Posts. Perhaps you should try singing the "Koth page updated" part? At any rate, good luck with coping with the "no identical Posts allowed" rule.

In order to give an actual use to this post, I would like to point out one of the current KOTH games. In the Mark/Renegade game, no turn has been played by Mark for the past ten days; the same happened in a 2vs2 game where Mark was involved. So you might have to do something about this game in the future; unless Renegade has better information that is.

Granted, I am mettling a tad bit in someone else's business, but you (and Renegade) might not know about it. It is though also possible there is no such problem in this case. If it is so, feel free to kick me out of this thread.

Renegade 13 September 13th, 2004 10:07 PM

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Indeed Alneyan, you are correct. The turn was Last due in my KOTH game on the 5th of this month I believe, and I haven't received a message from Mark telling me why. I was going to wait for another while, then send him an email. Then if that didn't work, then I'd get a hold of Asmala, and see what was going to happen. I really don't want this game to end, that's what happened in my first game (I won by forfeit), and I don't want 2 of my 3 games to end that way. And even if it does end that way, I'd like to remain at my current level of the hill, if possible. I don't feel I would have deserved to climb higher due only to a forfeit.

Perhaps this is premature though. I will send an email to Mark's PBW email address today, and see if I get a response within the next week or so. Stay tuned, I'll post what happens in a bit. Thanks Alneyan for bringing this to my attention...even though I'd already noticed!!

Alneyan September 14th, 2004 09:28 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the \"King of the Hi
 
May I suggest sending him a PM instead? He is still present on Dominions 2 forums, and is in fact taking over in a Dom's 2 game, so it is unlikely a matter of real life. I cannot send him a nag directly from the one game where both of us play though; otherwise, that would have likely been quite effective.

Asmala September 14th, 2004 04:32 PM

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Quote:

Alneyan said:
You have my sympathy Asmala; good luck with finding new ideas to make your status update Posts. Perhaps you should try singing the "Koth page updated" part? At any rate, good luck with coping with the "no identical Posts allowed" rule.

That rule is really annoying. Update Posts are usefull because that way I see what games I've updated. It's especially useful when I've been away some time and there's a lot of games waiting an update.

Fire September 16th, 2004 12:46 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the \"King of the Hi
 
Hey Asmala,

Put a win in the column for VadimBey in the KOTH game Fire vs VadimBey.

Later
Fire

Slynky September 16th, 2004 10:48 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the \"King of the Hi
 
Well, things on the top of the HILL are quiet. Been a while for an update. Sure was nice when Stoney was around to give updates as he defended.

Personally, I think a lot of Joachim and wonder how he's doing against the very formidable Asmala (who I have the utmost respect for). At 43 turns, I'm going to assume the map I gen'd for the game turned out pretty even and that the player talents are the deciding factor.

So...any updates to post, guys?

Asmala September 17th, 2004 08:45 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the \"King of the Hi
 
King of the Hill-Asmala vs Joachim 2404.4

Borders are now established and we both got about equal pieces of the galaxy. No proper battles yet though I'd bet soon there will be. Joachim has two fleets waiting over warp points in my side of the system. I think the fleets are only waiting for mine sweepers...

Joachim has lead in scores all the time, so every time I open a new turn I check anxiously whether a giant fleet has appeared somewhere. I haven't seen Joachim's newest ships, but I believe he had a tech advantage. At least his old destroyer designs were quite a lot of more advanced than mine at that time.

(I've been quite busy now that I started my studies in university so there have been lack of updates)

Asmala September 17th, 2004 08:53 AM

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Koth page updated.

Slynky September 17th, 2004 09:49 AM

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Quote:

Asmala said:
King of the Hill-Asmala vs Joachim 2404.4

(I've been quite busy now that I started my studies in university so there have been lack of updates)

I understand, Asmala. Thanks for taking the time to give us a quick update http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/cool.gif. Sounds like a good game!

Alneyan September 17th, 2004 10:32 AM

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So how do you reckon the analysis of the Fiend Slynky? It certainly looks like he is hiding something; the worst case scenario is the only one that applies to Asmala.

Nonetheless, my hopes go to Joachim for no obvious reason. *Coughs* Granted, getting a short-lived first place in the Ratings might be enough of a reason for my ego, but... That will be something to brag about later on; I will of course "forget" about the sound beatings I took. How convenient.

Slynky September 17th, 2004 12:08 PM

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Oh, Alneyan, I'm sure Asmala hasn't given away any important info ( http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif). And the picture he paints of his position...reminds me of a certain young French spy http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Alneyan September 17th, 2004 12:33 PM

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You do not believe this conspiracy plot, do you? There is no such thing as a Frenchman in this place, or a spy, let alone a French spy. The total population of the universe can also be argued as being so close to zero it doesn't matter, and so even if there were a French spy, it would only be a product of your imagination (credits go to Douglas Adams for this part of the explanation).

Besides, we all know no youngster is playing SEIV, so a young French spy would be even more of an impossiblity. In this case, young is defined as "being a teenager". Asmala is only a façade for Primitive (Primitive knows how to speak Finnish, which is quite a giveaway), and a way to allow him/them to have some fun at SEIV. Most of their opponents cannot stand a chance against them, so Asmala/Primitive needs to play with himself to have an actual challenge. Erh, about Renegade... Well, I cannot claim to be able to use twisted (il)logic to solve all problems.

Stay tuned for next week's exciting (exiting might me more appropriate though) programme about "How to successfully prove you haven't just been trashed by Primitive, but actually won even if you had to surrender".

brianeyci September 17th, 2004 01:47 PM

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Quote:

Alneyan said:Besides, we all know no youngster is playing SEIV, so a young French spy would be even more of an impossiblity. In this case, young is defined as "being a teenager".

Well. I play SE:IV and I'm 19. Lol.

Just ahead of my time I guess. Oh, I plan to knock you all off the ladder and be king of the hill one day. No pressure, just time for the misers to pass on the torch =D

Brian

Renegade 13 September 20th, 2004 11:16 PM

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Quote:

Alneyan said:
Besides, we all know no youngster is playing SEIV, so a young French spy would be even more of an impossiblity.

Ah, but that would be a fallacy. I am, in fact, 17 years old, and therefore you must all bow to my youth and strength!!

Quote:

Erh, about Renegade... Well, I cannot claim to be able to use twisted (il)logic to solve all problems.

Hmmm, I have an internet outage for a few days, and what happens? People talk behind my back http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif Just kidding of course, but I actually am kind of confused as to how I came to be involved in this conversation! Perhaps I'm becoming even more insane.... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/cool.gif

Alneyan September 21st, 2004 05:17 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the \"King of the Hi
 
Brianecy and Asmala are both 19 and some days/months old, so they are no longer teenagers; being a teenager ends after 19, and they are both after 19, if not quite 20.

For one reason or another, you have taken up the puzzling habit of giving your age in hexadecimal Renegade. As such, you are not quite 17, but rather... erh... 16+7 equals... 23! That's it.

This is not a completely false reasoning based upon insanity; instead, it is merely how the universe works, with no regard for common sense. I base this fact on the famous "What is the product of six by nine? 42" rule. Since it makes no sense by using a common approach to the problem, then we can deduce our whole perception is definitively too simple, and nothing is easy as it seems. For example, 6X9=42 implies the decimal system has no basis whatsoever; only another numerical system allows you to resolve this matter (such as base 13, where 42=4X13+2=54=6X9).

This friendly message was brought to you by the Alliance for Biased Logic, Headaches and Generic Insanity.

narf poit chez BOOM September 21st, 2004 01:22 PM

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Nine>teen<. You're still a teenager as long as there's a teen in your age. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

Ragnarok September 21st, 2004 01:25 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the \"King of the Hi
 
Narf, that is exactly what Alneyan said, just in different words...
Quote:

Alneyan said:
... being a teenager ends after 19, and they are both after 19, if not quite 20..

Although granted he did say it both ways... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

narf poit chez BOOM September 21st, 2004 01:29 PM

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[QOUTE]
Brianecy and Asmala are both 19 and some days/months old, so they are no longer teenagers; being a teenager ends after 19, and they are both after 19, if not quite 20.
[/QOUTE]
After nineteen but not quite 20 is still 19 and a teenager. Someone needs to wake up. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

Alneyan September 21st, 2004 01:54 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the \"King of the Hi
 
Hush Narf, you do not have to point out the pitfalls of my false reasonings. Saying that "being 19 and some days is being older than 19, and such not longer being a teenager" was the only way to make my odd point, but it doesn't make much sense at all. Still, since when am I supposed to make sense?

narf poit chez BOOM September 21st, 2004 02:34 PM

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You're not, the government arrests you if you do.

Slynky September 21st, 2004 02:45 PM

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Quote:

narf poit chez BOOM said:
You're not, the government arrests you if you do.

LMAO! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Alneyan September 21st, 2004 03:05 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the \"King of the Hi
 
Good one Narf! However, you must now the agents of the Agency do not abide by the requests of a single government; as such, since we do not fall under the rule of any specific government, how could one arrest me?

Given my peculiar status, I only follow *his* commands. You know, the bloke plotting to take over the world, whatisname... Oh yes, Sauron, Lord of the Rings, and not the best sport in the world. With all due respect, these evil overlords are lacking in style these days.

Ragnarok September 23rd, 2004 05:52 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the \"King of the Hi
 
Asmala, please move Slynky up a level and me back to the bottom.

Good game, Slynky! You deserved to win it and I deserved to lose blowing such an easy advantage there.

Slynky September 23rd, 2004 06:39 PM

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Quote:

Ragnarok said:
Asmala, please move Slynky up a level and me back to the bottom.

Good game, Slynky! You deserved to win it and I deserved to lose blowing such an easy advantage there.

As it turned out, it wasn't such an easy advantage after all.

For anyone reading (grin), I started next to one of his home systems. I thought I was screwed from the beginning since all 5 of my starting homeworlds were in the same deadend system! Only one way out and it was to HIS home system. My luck turned out to be that his homeworlds were split in 3 systems and the system that had 3 homeworlds in it was the one farthest away. So, had he tried to block me in my starting system (no mines in this game), he couldn't have put enough ships together to do it. SO, it wasn't that great of a chance blown...it turns out I was able to block out his other 4 systems while I built up enough ships to take his isolated homeworld out.

Warlord Ragnarok gave it a good shot even after losing a homeworld. I salute his resolve!

Asmala September 24th, 2004 08:46 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the \"King of the Hi
 
Quote:

Ragnarok said:
Asmala, please move Slynky up a level and me back to the bottom.

Done, and Koth page updated.

Alneyan September 25th, 2004 07:39 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the \"King of the Hi
 
Renegade, did you get any news about your game with Mark? I am bringing this topic again because he seems virtually AWOL from one of the games I am hosting as well (or at least, does not respond to PMs), even if he has posted on the forums since then.

Renegade 13 September 25th, 2004 09:13 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the \"King of the Hi
 
Nope, I've heard nothing from him. I PM'd him a while ago and have thus far received no response. He's been gone from my KOTH game since September 5th, and I haven't seen him since.

Master Belisarius September 25th, 2004 10:16 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the \"King of the Hi
 
But Mark is playing the Tudran game...
I'll send a mail to him.

Electrum September 26th, 2004 08:55 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the \"King of the Hi
 
Koth Game: Electrum v Rand
Turn 85 & Rand has surrendered to the Electrum.
Thanks for the good game Rand.

Asmala September 28th, 2004 01:37 PM

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Koth page updated. <font color="black"> </font>

Joachim September 30th, 2004 02:48 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the \"King of the Hi
 
Quote:

Asmala said:
King of the Hill-Asmala vs Joachim 2404.4

Borders are now established and we both got about equal pieces of the galaxy. No proper battles yet though I'd bet soon there will be. Joachim has two fleets waiting over warp points in my side of the system. I think the fleets are only waiting for mine sweepers...

Joachim has lead in scores all the time, so every time I open a new turn I check anxiously whether a giant fleet has appeared somewhere. I haven't seen Joachim's newest ships, but I believe he had a tech advantage. At least his old destroyer designs were quite a lot of more advanced than mine at that time.

(I've been quite busy now that I started my studies in university so there have been lack of updates)

Time for an update, 2405.5.

This is one of the strangest KOTH games that I have had... I will elaborate more when it is over.

We finally had a fleet battle, My 20 obsolete ships were trounced by Asmala's fleet that had just warped into my space. My ships were moving to the warp point. I will explain what was going on after http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif Other than this I have whacked a couple of his colonies and stole breathers. I am still (amazingly) in first place - even after the ship losses.

The map is good in that there are at least 5 different avenues of advance. We have both put a lot of ships into the inner route of the spiral but have been sparing with only a few ships on the outer, where I have got a few of his colonies. Asmala surprised me at one point by actually having 100 mines over a planet at the border, I lost a few ships trying to kill it earlier but only had one emergency build worth of mine sweeping (about 20). Didn't think anyone would bother commiting the time and resources to that many mines....

We now are staring at each other with his ships on my side of the warp point looking at my fleet base with up to date tech ships - the old stare them down.

Weird game!

Slynky September 30th, 2004 06:55 AM

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Thanks for the update, Joachim. Sounds like another good "HILL" game. Can't wait to hear all the details you are holding back http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif.

Asmala September 30th, 2004 05:54 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the \"King of the Hi
 
Time for an another update, 2405.6 http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Two more bigger battles occured. My fleet of 35 ships against his ~20. No losses for our fleet, Joachim lost all ships. Another battle was my 31 vs his 20+ ships. I lost 4, Joachim all. This was enough to raise me to the first place in scores.

There's still one bigger battle upcoming, since Joachim has 30 ships in the same system I've the second fleet.

Electrum September 30th, 2004 06:52 PM

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Asmala,

I think I messed up on my empire for my KOTH game with parabolize. Is the Geo Balanced mod the one where you don't select "None" atmosphere? If so, I sent the wrong Emp. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/redface.gif &amp; could we please restart? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif

parabolize September 30th, 2004 07:58 PM

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Yes it's that mod. Sorry I should have said something before it started.

Slynky September 30th, 2004 08:00 PM

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Quote:

parabolize said:
Yes it's that mod. Sorry I should have said something before it started.

I play that mod a lot and I know others don't so much, so I try to make a habit of telling my opponent. A good habit to get into http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Electrum September 30th, 2004 11:40 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the \"King of the Hi
 
Actually, I'm just stalling. I see Slynky on the next level. I figure that even if I win, I lose. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

Electrum September 30th, 2004 11:42 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the \"King of the Hi
 
Asmala,
Would you be so so kind to restart the game.

Slynky September 30th, 2004 11:42 PM

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Quote:

Electrum said:
Actually, I'm just stalling. I see Slynky on the next level. I figure that even if I win, I lose. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

LOL...as IF!

Asmala October 1st, 2004 03:47 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the \"King of the Hi
 
Quote:

Electrum said:
Asmala,
Would you be so so kind to restart the game.

I need a new empire file from you before I can restart the game.

Joachim October 2nd, 2004 12:25 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the \"King of the Hi
 
AAARrrgh bang, crunch.... thump, bounce ... THUD... WHACK http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/Injured.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/Injured.gif

Geeez it is a long way down from up there....

Great Game Asmala, feel free to inform my why my ships cant hit the side of a galactic size barn, let alone your ships. Especially the warp point battle where I hardly scratched you.

I trust that you can hold the hill till I climb back up and take my revenge!

So who is ready down the bottom here?

Joachim October 2nd, 2004 12:27 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the \"King of the Hi
 
Ahhh, looks like Rand and I are up.

I am happy with any settings you wish to propose, though i really dont like Ancient as it spoils all the fun http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Electrum October 2nd, 2004 03:15 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the \"King of the Hi
 
E-Mailed it to you. Let me know if you didn't get it.
Thanks http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/smile.gif


Quote:

Asmala said:
Quote:

Electrum said:
Asmala,
Would you be so so kind to restart the game.

I need a new empire file from you before I can restart the game.


brianeyci October 2nd, 2004 03:58 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the \"King of the Hi
 
In case you missed the "brianeyci short leave of absence" thread Asmala, can you forward the next turn to at least a week, so that I can move without worrying about Katchoo kicking my ***? =D

Already asked Katchoo (see the thread)

Thanks,

Brian

Asmala October 3rd, 2004 04:09 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the \"King of the Hi
 
Quote:

Electrum said:
Asmala,
Would you be so so kind to restart the game.

Game restarted.

Asmala October 3rd, 2004 04:16 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the \"King of the Hi
 
Quote:

brianeyci said:
In case you missed the "brianeyci short leave of absence" thread Asmala, can you forward the next turn to at least a week, so that I can move without worrying about Katchoo kicking my ***? =D

Already asked Katchoo (see the thread)

Thanks,

Brian

The game's on After Last player upload only so you can't miss a turn.

parabolize October 3rd, 2004 04:37 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the \"King of the Hi
 
Quote:

Asmala said:
Quote:

Electrum said:
Asmala,
Would you be so so kind to restart the game.

Game restarted.

Thank you. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

Electrum October 3rd, 2004 04:46 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the \"King of the Hi
 
Quote:

parabolize said:
Quote:

Asmala said:
Quote:

Electrum said:
Asmala,
Would you be so so kind to restart the game.

Game restarted.

Thank you. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

Yes! Thanks! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

Asmala October 3rd, 2004 05:04 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the \"King of the Hi
 
Thanks for the great game Joachim.

Quote:

Joachim said:
Great Game Asmala, feel free to inform my why my ships cant hit the side of a galactic size barn, let alone your ships. Especially the warp point battle where I hardly scratched you.

I guess you hadn't trained your ships much. I had 20/20 ship and fleet experience, sensors 3 and ecm 3. Your ships had sensors 2 and ecm 2. Only the difference in sensors would've give me a big advantage, but if your ships were untrained it wasn't a wonder you didn't hit me.

I was really anxious almost the whole game since you led me in scores all the time. When you captured some of my population I thought I'll probably lose the game. But my concentration on research paid off on the long run and my higher technology ships did their job.


Quote:


I trust that you can hold the hill till I climb back up and take my revenge!


Well, I'm not so sure about that since my next enemy is the dreaded RexTorres.


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