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Stone Mill July 28th, 2003 07:16 PM

Re: Gamey Tactics and Bug Exploits Thread
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Slick:
So 100 minesweeping capability will NOT protect you against this tactic.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Actually, I think you are a little off with this statement-

The way the game engine works, an empire's mines are swept one at a time, soo 100 minesweeping capability is applied each time. Therefore, a player is protected against needing to sweep more that 100 at a point no matter how many empires lay mines there.

I do remember asking this specifically a while back. And in all my games, I've seen it work this way, IIRC.

Slick July 28th, 2003 07:19 PM

Re: Gamey Tactics and Bug Exploits Thread
 
I can say from experience that if there are more than 100 enemy mines in a sector from 2 or more enemy empires, having 100 minsweepers will sweep the first 100 and your ship(s) WILL be damaged by the remainder. I have seen this on more than one occasion. Of course, if your fleet can sweep more than the number of mines in the sector, they will all be swept, obviously.

Slick.

Loser July 28th, 2003 07:20 PM

Re: Gamey Tactics and Bug Exploits Thread
 
Run tests. Trade Saves.

Slynky July 28th, 2003 09:55 PM

Re: Gamey Tactics and Bug Exploits Thread
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Slick:
I can say from experience that if there are more than 100 enemy mines in a sector from 2 or more enemy empires, having 100 minsweepers will sweep the first 100 and your ship(s) WILL be damaged by the remainder. I have seen this on more than one occasion. Of course, if your fleet can sweep more than the number of mines in the sector, they will all be swept, obviously.

Slick.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Gotta back Slick up on this one. In the Challenge Match, I've run into more than 100 mines in a sector twice now and taken a lot of damage from the ones above 100 that were left.

Fyron July 28th, 2003 09:57 PM

Re: Gamey Tactics and Bug Exploits Thread
 
If you want to discuss the mines further, please take it to a different thread.

oleg July 28th, 2003 11:28 PM

Re: Gamey Tactics and Bug Exploits Thread
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
If you want to discuss the mines further, please take it to a different thread.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Why ? They address a VERY important point which was actually introduced by you as a "gamey" or "exploits" tactic. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

Fyron July 28th, 2003 11:32 PM

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No Oleg. This thread is not for discussions of what is gamey or what is not gamey. It is for compiling a list of what MIGHT BE considered gamey by some people. If you want to talk about what is gamey or not in your opinion, do it elsewhere.

Fyron July 28th, 2003 11:34 PM

Re: Gamey Tactics and Bug Exploits Thread
 
So back to list complilation...

1. Trading with AIs.
2. Building multiple training facilities on each planet in a sector (moons) to multiply the training rate.
3. Retroseries building.
4. Surrendering to allies to merge empires together.
5. Surrendering to an ally or other 3rd party to keep what is left of your empire from going to the enemy.
6. Surrendering your empire when you just want to leave the game.
7. Surrendering to the empire attacking you.
8. Intelligence projects.
9. Gifting/trading planets.
10. Gifting a planet for the primary purpose of keeping an another player alive.
11. Tech sharing.
12. Gifting/trading population.
13. Gifting/trading colony techs.
14. Min/maxing empire setup.
15. Allies laying mines in the same sector to get more than 100 mines in it.
16. Turtling yourself into a corner using Warp Point closers and System Gravitational Shields.
17. Declaring war on an ally and attacking at the same turn.
18. Moving ships over enemy planets and then declaring war to bypass mine fields.
19. Email diplomacy between players when races haven't met in the game yet.
20. Gifting/trading ships.
21. Gifting ships to an ally to get around the maximum ship limits.
22. Allied victory or Last Man Standing victory conditions must be chosen and declared, or there will usually be some friction towards the end of the game.

PvK July 28th, 2003 11:55 PM

Re: Gamey Tactics and Bug Exploits Thread
 
I think you probably do want to add the Talisman, as it's come up in this context. So has combining Talisman with low aggressiveness.

How about annoying/deceptive shipsets?

How about ramming?

PvK

tesco samoa July 29th, 2003 12:00 AM

Re: Gamey Tactics and Bug Exploits Thread
 
Oleg I created a thread to talk about this list....

So not to cluter up the list http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif


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