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Caduceus August 28th, 2006 11:36 AM

Re: Stargate episode 200!!!
 
I have been watching SG-1 since about season 2 or 3 and have seen most of the episodes.

I enjoy the show, but it is somewhat trite - i.e. Trek-like - in that at the resolution of every episode we're back to square one. Everyone is alive and we're ready for next week.

The Richard Dean Anderson years were fun, but not substantially different than what we're seeing now. A story-line which moves throughout a season is the direction most shows are going. I'm not wild about the Ori, but it will be a good "capper" for the show, I think.

There's only so many "let's go through the gate from Earth while everyone is unaware of our existence" episodes you can do.

The costs of the show - MGM and probably the cast's requirements - are getting prohibitive. The show can't stand to lose Tealc, Carter, or Jackson, so they have the bargaining power in that situation.

gregebowman August 28th, 2006 07:54 PM

Re: Stargate episode 200!!!
 
Well, if Devlin and his partner hadn't sold the rights to Stargate and was unable to do the trilogy they had wanted to do, maybe all this would be a mute point. That's one reason I don't watch the show. Now, after the 8th or 9th season, I have no idea of what's going on so I could care less.

Speaking of Sci-fi in general, it's obvious the firm is run by suits and not a single one of them were ever a geek, nerd or trekkie. They wouldn't know what real sci-fi is if it hit them in the face. I mean, come on, no matter what the relationship with USA is, you can't be serious when you have ECW wrestling on a supposedly science fiction related show. And what's with all of these reality shows like Ghost Hunters? That's no sci-fi, or even fiction. I wish someone like Bill Gates or Steven Spielberg would buy the company and make a decent job of it. And looking at the tv guide for this week, they have the audacity to play Galactica 1980, the worse ever sequel of a tv show that ever was. Please, someone send them a clue!

Caduceus August 28th, 2006 09:22 PM

Re: Stargate episode 200!!!
 
Reruns of "classic" (ahem) shows are cheap, grege, that's all

And it ties in loosely to the new BSG in the hopes to draw in Sci-Fi viewers who have night jobs.

Atrocities August 28th, 2006 10:27 PM

Re: Stargate episode 200!!!
 
Greg, O'neil was promoted to General and put in charge of something, same with Hamond. The Jaffa have formed their own government which has twice now resulted in disaster for the Jaffa Nation. Dr. Jackson while playing around with an ancient device accidently discovered the Ori, who until Dr. Jacksons accident, didn't know our galaxy exsisted. They are now invading our Galaxy in order to convert everyone to the Ori religon. The Ori are assended beings who are at war with the Ancients. The Ancients won't help humanity defend against the Ori so we are on our own.

In the mean time, through ancient writings Dr. Jackson was able to find the lost ancient city of Atlantas and an expodisiton was sent there. It is in another galaxy filled with life sucking monsters called the Wraith.

The Replicators have been defeated, or so we think, the Gauld are gone say for a bunch of Baal Clones, and there is a pirate group running around the galaxy running a black market and doing criminal things.

Earth now has a fleet of space warships, two of which have been destoryed, one is assigned to Atlantas.

Well thats about it.

Renegade 13 August 28th, 2006 10:38 PM

Re: Stargate episode 200!!!
 
Well, with the destruction of the Prometheus and the Korolev, the "fleet" is down to one; the Odyssey

LordAxel August 29th, 2006 12:28 AM

Re: Stargate episode 200!!!
 
Def not a fan of the ori thing. Apperantly they are still trying to find a home for sg-1. I really doubt atlantis can stand on its own without sg-1 as the sg-1 line is quasi interlocked with atlantis. Plus the costs will now likely rise for the atlantis production as its on its own not sharing the lot with sg-1

Will August 29th, 2006 12:29 AM

Re: Stargate episode 200!!!
 
My take on the cancelation: it's ok. SG-1 jumped the shark a while ago. You could debate the moment when that happened, but you would have a hard time convincing me that it hasn't. So, it took what, 8 seasons to turn the threat of Gou'ld invasion into a basically non-issue, do you really want to repeat the same process for Ori? And where do you go after that? The time has come, I think, for it to end.

I think the entire model of the show is just about done, as well, so Atlantis will probably only last a few more seasons. Like alarikf said, it's very much in the Star Trek and Quantum Leap models. While it can be good, there comes a point when you've already tried out a bunch of different places, and anything else you do will end up seeming like a contrived re-hashing of previous episodes.

Where sci-fi in general is going, I think, is away from shows in the Star Trek mold, where everything is "perfect", and nobody really has personal problems from episode to episode beyond the obligatory romantic/sexual tension, and replaced with stories like Babylon 5 or the new Battlestar Galactica, where there are humanized characters with actual problems like addiction, depression, long-running feuds in the forefront of the story, "good" characters doing "evil" things, "evil" characters taking the high road and doing "good" things, etc. In other words, shift the focus of the story to characters with a scifi background, instead of a scifi environment populated by relatively flat characters.

Atrocities August 29th, 2006 12:45 AM

Re: Stargate episode 200!!!
 
Quote:

Renegade 13 said:
Well, with the destruction of the Prometheus and the Korolev, the "fleet" is down to one; the Odyssey

Um, no, they have two ships, the Odyssey and one other. Not sure what the ships name is.

edit the name is the Daedalus and the Odyssey. With two more coming soon. Not sure of their names yet. Probably TARGET, and SHOOT ME.

Atrocities August 29th, 2006 12:51 AM

Re: Stargate episode 200!!!
 
http://www.savestargatesg1.com/

Azselendor August 29th, 2006 12:54 AM

Re: Stargate episode 200!!!
 
Daedalus (spelling?) is the other one.

And will is right, SG1 going isn't a bad thing. SG1 represents the Star Trek TNG/Voyager era of science fiction. If I put a point on where it jumpd the shark, It would have to be with prometheus's first flight.

The best way to wrap up the Ori storyline is to hand the Ori a huge setback for 20-30 years and allow a future series of movie resolve it.


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