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Graeme Dice October 20th, 2006 08:47 PM

Re: High PD kinda useless.
 
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Twan said:
Immobile troops but without upkeep.

What about upkeep? If you got two units you for the 40th point of defense, for a cost of 40 gold, it takes 15 turns for that point of province defense to pay for itself. That's assuming, of course, that the province is ever attacked in the first place.

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Even at twice the price if you have to defend the province turn after turn and if you succeed a sufficient time it's not a bad investment.

It's not as good an investment as buying real troops that you can use to attack for half the cost.

Graeme Dice October 20th, 2006 08:49 PM

Re: High PD kinda useless.
 
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Forrest said:
That is what a choke point is. If I had had the money I would have bought more PD. But the other two fronts were sucking me dry.

A choke point is something that your opponent flies his troops over and avoids, or sends a single thug to kill every single point of province defense, thus rendering it useless to you.

Endoperez October 20th, 2006 09:10 PM

Re: High PD kinda useless.
 
Quote:

Graeme Dice said:

What about upkeep? If you got two units you for the 40th point of defense, for a cost of 40 gold, it takes 15 turns for that point of province defense to pay for itself. That's assuming, of course, that the province is ever attacked in the first place.

It's not as good an investment as buying real troops that you can use to attack for half the cost.

You are living in the past, man! NO nation in Dominions 3 gets ONLY two units for PD over 20! NO ONE! 3 is common, but here are those nations I found from the manual that had less than 3 units:

MA Ulm:
½ Infantry of Ulm, Crossbowman, Pikeneer

EA Helheim and EA Vanheim
Serf Warrior, ½ Huskarl, Huskarl (but those are Van Huskarls, with glamour etc)

EA and MA Jotunheim:
½ Jotun Militia, ½ Jotun Javelinist


Here are two nations that get quantity but not quality:

LA Ermor:
2 Longdead Velite, 2 Longdead Legionnaire, 2 Longdead Horsemen

All ages of monkey people:
2 Markata, 1½ Markata Archer (with range 20, very weak Small Boys), 1 Bandar Warrior

They could be said to be worse than 3 normal human units. However, LA Ermor doesn't buy high PDs often. Markata are priced at 5 gp, or half a light infatry. As such, monkey people get a slight less than 3 PD units.

These are the worst. Others are better. As I listed earlier, Man gets 2 Militia, 1 Spearman, 1 Longbowman and 1 tower Guard.

Theonlystd October 20th, 2006 09:38 PM

Re: High PD kinda useless.
 
The monkey poeples Pd is absolutely useless.

The meele units below 20 are useless and your archers will end up shooting those units more than the enm causing them to break half the time before they even meet the enm..

Just build lots of Forts and pump out those unarmored Bandars warriors or something


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