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Lingchih April 24th, 2008 07:11 PM

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Zeldor said:
I am absolutely sure that Eye Shield is not so great against SCs. You really need luck and it may take even 20-40 hits for other SC to lose just one eye. I had 1:1 fight, my Tartarian with Eye Shield against Arch Devil and he lost one eye after about 40 turns of battle.

And I have given eye losss to an SC after the first hit. So who is right? Shall we fight about it? My eye shield wielding SC vs. your eye shield wielding SC?

sum1lost April 24th, 2008 09:40 PM

Re: Best item
 
I think that the attack has to miss into the exact range that the eyeshield improves defence by.

Wick April 24th, 2008 09:40 PM

Re: Best item
 
If there's no MR check then any (non-spider etc.) attacker would be blind on the second round. That's easy to check if you're worried about it.

DonCorazon April 24th, 2008 11:13 PM

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What about Visions Foe - the blindness causing crossbow - does that have an MR check or just need to hit?

Saulot April 25th, 2008 01:54 AM

Re: Best item
 
No MR check on Vision's Foe.

Edi April 25th, 2008 02:47 AM

Re: Best item
 
Quote:

sum1lost said:
I think that the attack has to miss into the exact range that the eyeshield improves defence by.

This is possible and even likely given the description of the eye shield. So is the MR check, but we currently do not know for certain.

triqui April 26th, 2008 09:38 AM

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Falkor said:
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mathusalem said:
why do you think frost brand is far better than fire one ?

5W gems against 5E, 5F gems.

Frost brand is slightly more cost-effective, but i still preffer firebrand. With a dwarven hammer the firebrand is cheap enough, it is AP damage, and *Can* kill skellies and other (really common in this game) undeads.

There are way more cold inmune units than fire inmune ones in the game.

Falkor April 26th, 2008 02:53 PM

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I fully agree with you Triqui about the effectiveness of brands. Strangely, I always have more water gems to spend than earth gems, not to speak about the fire ones. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

thejeff April 28th, 2008 09:29 AM

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What do the brands actually do? From the description I'd assumed it was normal (or AP) damage to the unit actually hit, and then fire or cold affect to the whole area. I'd originally assumed this was a minor affect, like chance of catching on fire or freezing, but it's actually the main damage.

Is the cold/fire damage the same as the weapon damage? Strength based? That makes little sense to me, but seems to match actual results.

Endoperez April 28th, 2008 12:11 PM

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They use the weapon effects "small area fire", "small are frost" etc. I don't know how powerful those effects are.


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