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Gregstrom September 27th, 2008 03:27 PM

Re: No love for Holy??
 
All holy spells have a base cost of zero. I believe that spellcasting encumbrance is added on to this to generate a final fatigue cost, though.

So you get a pretty low overall fatigue cost compared with mage spells, but not zero (unless you have a naked undead priest, in which case they can spam holy spells forever without caring).

HoneyBadger September 27th, 2008 03:32 PM

Re: No love for Holy??
 
It's my understanding that undead units-or any unit with 0 Fatigue-doesn't accrue fatigure, no matter what gear they're wearing. Has this been changed? Or am I mistaken? I know undead can become fatigued, I just didn't think from wearing equipment.

thejeff September 27th, 2008 03:37 PM

Re: No love for Holy??
 
Holy spells have a fatigue cost of 0.
But fatigue from encumbrance still applies.

This makes the Crystal Shield actually worse for Holy spells, since there's no base fatigue cost to reduce by having a higher path level.

Of course, if you only care about using it to cast Divine Blessing or Fanaticism that doesn't matter. If you want to use it to spam a higher level Banishment it might not be worth it.


Undead (or more accurately any unit with base 0 encumbrance) don't gain fatigue from battle regardless of armor encumbrance, but they still get fatigue from casting and armor/shield encumbrance adds to that.

Trumanator September 27th, 2008 05:31 PM

Re: No love for Holy??
 
Encumbrance-only fatigue is still pretty low though, but ofc it depends on how long the battle lasts. If you have an E bless though you could probably spam banishment even with a CS all day long.

Epaminondas September 27th, 2008 07:29 PM

Re: No love for Holy??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Edratman (Post 640980)
As far as I know, crystal shield will only boost holy if the commander has additional magic paths.

Hmmm, I tested and the Arco Priestess (who has Nature magic) does not receive a boost....

Jazzepi September 27th, 2008 08:19 PM

Re: No love for Holy??
 
Did you test it /in battle/?

Jazzepi

Endoperez September 28th, 2008 05:11 AM

Re: No love for Holy??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HoneyBadger (Post 641048)
It's my understanding that undead units-or any unit with 0 Fatigue-doesn't accrue fatigure, no matter what gear they're wearing. Has this been changed? Or am I mistaken? I know undead can become fatigued, I just didn't think from wearing equipment.

Something with 0 encumberance and heavy armor still has high spell-casting encumberance, which might or might not be added to the spell-casting fatigue. I don't know how it works.

JimMorrison September 28th, 2008 04:27 PM

Re: No love for Holy??
 
If a 0 Encumbrance unit is wearing, say, 5 Encumbrance worth of gear, what you will see is -

Encumbrance 0

However, if you click on that to open up the details, what you will also see is -

Base Encumbrance 0
Melee Encumbrance 0
Spellcasting Encumbrance 10


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