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Tollund January 8th, 2010 01:19 PM

Re: Bless for LA C'tis?
 
It's a 0 encumbrance unit, so it never gains fatigue from melee regardless of what armour it is wearing.

thejeff January 8th, 2010 01:23 PM

Re: Bless for LA C'tis?
 
A Tomb King (or any enc 0 commander) will gain 0 fatigue from fighting even wearing Black Steel (or any armor) with or without the bless.

He will get 4 (IIRC) additional fatigue from spellcasting due to the armor. Since he's casting 0 fatigue H spells this should be just 4/spell.

The 2 points of reinvig from the E4 bless will remove this and will also counter any fatigue from spells, special attacks, auras or other sources. However most such sources will build up fatigue much too fast for the reinvig to counter.

Short answer: The bless works, but he doesn't need it since he doesn't get fatigue from fighting.

Sombre January 8th, 2010 01:31 PM

Re: Bless for LA C'tis?
 
0 enc units don't get + to enc from wearing armour for melee, but they do for spellcasting.

Squirrelloid January 8th, 2010 04:14 PM

Re: Bless for LA C'tis?
 
of course, the tomb king is going to be casting exactly one spell: divine blessing. 4 fatigue is sort of like 0 fatigue - it shouldn't increase the chances of taking a critical. (You need at least 10 fatigue for fatigue to start to matter for anything iirc).

thejeff January 8th, 2010 04:26 PM

Re: Bless for LA C'tis?
 
And if you don't give him a bless he won't even cast that. Maybe Holy Avenger?

Trumanator January 8th, 2010 05:19 PM

Re: Bless for LA C'tis?
 
Well, I could see casting divine blessing, holy avenger, and perhaps one of the national spells.

thejeff January 8th, 2010 05:36 PM

Re: Bless for LA C'tis?
 
True, Power of the Grave might well be worth it. That's ramping up into marginally dangerous territory.
E4 might well be worth it then, especially since you have only minimal E access otherwise.
Of course, if you don't go E4, Holy Avenger probably isn't worth the extra fatigue and if you don't take a bless at all, you're left with only PotG and low enough fatigue not to need one.

Trumanator January 8th, 2010 06:21 PM

Re: Bless for LA C'tis?
 
Yeah, you want E3 anyways for hammers, and E4 is great for the sauromancers. So its really not a big deal.

vfb January 8th, 2010 07:14 PM

Re: Bless for LA C'tis?
 
Since no-one else is willing to answer your simple question, I will.

Units with Encumbrance 0 do not gain additional melee fatigue from wearing Armor, even if they have -6% luck.

MaxWilson January 14th, 2010 10:52 PM

Re: Bless for LA C'tis?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Squirrelloid (Post 725279)
*E9 - ok, i confess, it does nothing for your Tomb Wyrms. It would be really nice if it did, because 14 vs. 10 protection on them would be a big deal. On your Tomb Kings, however, to whom you can give armor, +4 protection can be huge. A Tomb King with fire plate (easily researched/forgeable) has ~20 protection before E9 blessing. This is probably too marginal to care.

E9 might also be a good blessing for Sauromancer thugs to give you protection and 0 enc. Take one of the F2D3 guys, throw on bracers of defense and one of those F1D1 flails, cast Soul Vortex + Phoenix Pyre, and attack. An astral sauromancer standing in the same square should cast Blessing, Body Ethereal, Luck.

Yeah, now that I think about it this would work just about as well without the E9 bless, so maybe you still don't need it. :)

-Max


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