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DRG October 26th, 2013 07:41 PM

Re: IDF OOB project.
 
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Originally Posted by gingertanker (Post 821949)
merkava 3


units 064, 065 merkava mk3 baz as mentioned, ammo load should be reduced to 54. .


54 ???

FASTBOAT TOUGH August 2nd, 2014 03:27 AM

Re: IDF OOB project.
 
Don,
At your convenience but, how much of Amit's work here were you able to incorporate into the last patch? Or maybe better what didn't get done if easier to answer. We had been on the PM side until about mid winter or just before. Turned out we would follow the same/similar career path after our military careers. Anyway the MEGACH SPIKE NLOS got me thinking about his work here and I would like to see any loose ends addressed if I can help make that happen.
Thank You.

Regards,
Pat

gingertanker February 15th, 2015 11:57 AM

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So...I join in the question...How much of this has been done already? A quick check showed me that at least some has. Just wondering if to move forward along the OOB or not, now that I am back?

gingertanker February 15th, 2015 12:42 PM

Re: IDF OOB project.
 
ill just start by reading through the last questions here and seeing to them.

gingertanker February 15th, 2015 01:09 PM

Re: IDF OOB project.
 
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Originally Posted by DRG (Post 822552)
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Originally Posted by gingertanker (Post 821928)
Magach Chaos 2!

Correction to my previous post which I cant seem to be able to edit:

Obsolete tank unit for Mag'ach 5 should be avilable from 1980 and not 1970. my finger slipped.


Could you give me a hint how long they should be kept in service ??

Early 90s would be my best guess.

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so what happens to unit 32....... is it OK ? I don't think so based on the changes you asked for with the others
Magach 6 Gimel, or 6C as per the oob format right now, were M60A3 tanks delivered to Israel directly from USA stockpiles in europe. They should be identical to M60A3 in its USA form, only with TI. I actually did mention that in the Magach post. So actually, I think the unit is OK(!!)

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I am going to maintain the Tiran units separate from the " obsolete tank " class ( looking to change that UC to "Reserve Tank" )

Understand RE Tiran units should have the same moral and exp modifier and I also understand your " big if " reservations about -5 but the Israeli OOB already has one of the highest ratings. Do you REALLY think reservists are no different than regular units ?
The experience -5 is rather okey, considering it represents not only actual combat experience but level of routine training. The -5 moral is odd to me but I can understand it as well. I think your solution is very good. In any case as you mention the IDF oob is very strong this is almost a non issue.



A Note: IDK how I wrote 54 for the Merkava MK 3 ammo load- the number is 46, as I mentioned in the same post(i guess i was doing that late at night or something?!)

shahadi February 15th, 2015 01:16 PM

Re: IDF OOB project.
 
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Originally Posted by gingertanker (Post 828521)
ill just start by reading through the last questions here and seeing to them.

In the Artillery Corps, in either of the several battalions, which one of them are towed field guns? I have not found a battalion fielding any piece other than self-propelled guns in the publicly available sources.

Yet, the Israel OOB: obat04, has several towed pieces, most prominent is the 155mm.

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gingertanker February 15th, 2015 01:20 PM

Re: IDF OOB project.
 
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Originally Posted by shahadi (Post 828527)
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Originally Posted by gingertanker (Post 828521)
ill just start by reading through the last questions here and seeing to them.

In the Artillery Corps, in either of the several battalions, which one of them are towed field guns? I have not found a battalion fielding any piece other than self-propelled guns in the publicly available sources.

Yet, the Israel OOB: obat04, has several towed pieces, most prominent is the 155mm.

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The M71 Towed Howitzer was used by certain reserve units...Specifically for airborne operations. The last ones were withdrawn from service 2014.

152H55 February 15th, 2015 01:54 PM

Re: IDF OOB project.
 
Glad to see the revival of this project, especially in the fields of mortars, inf-AT and artillery.

gingertanker February 15th, 2015 02:11 PM

Re: IDF OOB project.
 
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Originally Posted by 152H55 (Post 828529)
Glad to see the revival of this project, especially in the fields of mortars, inf-AT and artillery.



All three of which will be incredibly hard to get right btw. I just spent one hour trying to figure out what light AT/RPG types actually saw service with the IDF and which did not.

shahadi February 16th, 2015 02:40 AM

Re: IDF OOB project.
 
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Originally Posted by gingertanker (Post 828528)
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Originally Posted by shahadi (Post 828527)
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Originally Posted by gingertanker (Post 828521)
ill just start by reading through the last questions here and seeing to them.

In the Artillery Corps, in either of the several battalions, which one of them are towed field guns? I have not found a battalion fielding any piece other than self-propelled guns in the publicly available sources.

Yet, the Israel OOB: obat04, has several towed pieces, most prominent is the 155mm.

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The M71 Towed Howitzer was used by certain reserve units...Specifically for airborne operations. The last ones were withdrawn from service 2014.

Okay, so in obat04, the Israel OOB, for Unit Class 9, the towed FA, should we change the unit availability for those units with end dates of 120 to reflect that they've been pulled from service in 2014?

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