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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">That reminds me of an old saying..."Ready or not, here I come!" -- from the great game of hide and seek. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

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I'm going to try converting one of those null asteroid fields either this turn or next, so if the game breaks you'll know why. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

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Grrr....you better not break the game... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

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yup, it was primitive, he stuck his head thru the warppoint into my space this turn with a single battleship - and of course - ran away.

i imagine he's going to bring friends with him when he returns http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

what else would a BERZERK, non-existant strength race with - adv.storage, adv.propulsion, temporal, crystaline, hardy industrials and maxed out ship combat stats do???

*waits for the **** to hit the fan*

[ April 09, 2004, 16:26: Message edited by: Cirvol ]

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Well, I didn't break the game, but I didn't get a planet either. I wonder if remote mining will work? Those "asteroids" have some nice values.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Wow, that sounds like my race! Hey Primitive, let's be friends. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif

[ April 09, 2004, 18:38: Message edited by: Spoo ]

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I'm wondering...is there any advantage to using battleships as your main combat force rather than dreadnoughts? Because it seems like I've heard a few times that battleships are better to use for some reason, but I've never heard why. Could someone tell me please?? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif

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Battleships are faster and get the same type of weapon mounts.

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Faster yes, but there's also 200kT less space for components. Yeah, battleships also have less space taken up by life support and crew quarters, but if you have the master computer (an expensive component) that doesn't matter, and with dreadnoughts you'll use fewer master computers total, as you won't be able to afford quite as many ships as you would if you went with battleships. So are there any super-important reasons, besides speed, that say I should go with battleships?? And is 1 point in speed that important? By the way, thanks a lot for the help http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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One point of speed can be crucial for catching that raider fleet or if you are the raider, getting away http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

For a fulltech game with ample resources like RTH, expect to see plenty of Baseships in the main battle formations. Smaller and faster ships like Battleships are more usefull for scouting, raiding and suicide missions to slow down the enemies main fleets.

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Note that Baseships get a 40% defense penalty, so be careful using them.

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Yeah, but they still outperforms Dreads in large battles. You will need to invest some 25 % more resources to make a Dread fleet compatible.
Is it worth the extra 2 movement points ? Maybe http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

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Ah, but here's the question: Is it worth the extra resources needed to make a battleship fleet competitive with a dread fleet for the one extra movement point?? Or would the answer again be "maybe"?!?!? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif

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Go big or go home. Base ships are the way to go.

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif


Your ships are there to die anyways.

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man, this is just gonna be scary, if everyone has the same basic skill sets - ie, maxed out...

lol damn,

you're all nuts u know?

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damn guys http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

i missed the turn by about 30 seconds http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

i uploaded my turn from Last turn on the new one... is there anyway to re-execute it with my uploaded turn ?


i kinda really need this to stand a chance defending against primitive http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif otherwise im prolly screwed

please dont do your turns yet

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on another note, chairman mao also missed his turn...

i know he wouldnt like that either http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif


(i guess im feeling guilty, so offering some defence pointing out im not the only one that got caught away from computer due to easter http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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I'd be ok with rolling the turn back.

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sure...

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I suppose we can turn it back...

Do we still want to do this? I just looked and it apears that Cirvol you uploaded this newest turn already. What are you wanting to do? Continue on or turn it back?

[ April 12, 2004, 15:23: Message edited by: Ragnarok ]

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rag, the turn i uploaded was for Last turn, not this one...

i just uploaded it so you can get it easier

(plus, at the time, thought it was for Last turn http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif )

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Cirvol;
I have done nothing in the Last turn that would need your attention, so a roll-back should not be needed because of me. Also, if you need a roll-back in the future for any reason, please pop the question in an e-mail next time so we don't have to do the turns again if we miss this thread http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

There are also way too much information beeing spilled here.
So I have located youe empire! I would have prefered not everyone knowing that, and I would also prefere if everybody doesn't get the information about the outcome of our little encounter for free. The question of War or a (temporary) Alliance between our races are far from over (at least I have made no decision http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif ) yet. If the rest of the players want to know, let them come out of hiding and use proper in game diplomacy.

BTW.
I don't want the roll-back, but I bow to majority.

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you're right primitive - that info should not have been public... but in the spirit of this 'all out game' i figured it wasnt a big deal

as for my missed turn, i still really want it included - since a lot of my queues were setup and without it, many of my spaceyards were not building this turn http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

as far as peace/war goes, i'm open as well http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I am feeling very reluctant to set the turn back as I everyone knows that there is a 48 hour limit right now and if you miss it then it is not my problem unless you missed it due to my error somehow.

But the only ones directly opposed to it it seems are Primitive and myself. But everyone else has stated they do not mind so I suppose we will go ahead and turn it back.

I need someone to email me turn 24 so that I can re-upload it.

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Arrghhh...will be pain in ***....did lots of stuff this turn....but its still ok http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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can't you just use all the old turn files?

they should still be on geo's site right?
or at least part of the old zip from Last turn

it should not force anyone to 'redo' their turn if you have the old .plr files right?

[ April 12, 2004, 21:29: Message edited by: Cirvol ]

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i will just redo my turn... when the admin starts to use old turns etc... stuff can happen.

it was a 20 minute turn.. I do not mind redoing it.

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Ok, the new turn is up - so please get it now and do it.

I'm sorry about the long delay this has taken http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif
It really could have been an easy case of using the .plr files from the old turn .zip and adding my .plr file and re-executing the turn.
Then replacing the turn file with the new one.

In any case, no more unintentionally missed turns:D

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yeah, I just forgot all about doing it this way until it was too late. I got to thinking Last night that I should have done it like this but hindsight is always 20/20, right? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif Either way we are back on track and that is all that matters to me. This will be a long game so a small delay such as this should not matter too much.

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thx for understanding rag http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

well, good luck everyone - this game is shaping up to be quite sick

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my turn came out all messed up.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Ack. Sounds like you sent in the wrong turn and the AI took over.

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dam, maybe rag can redo the turn using everyones original .plr files ---

did anyone else get screwed up ?
electrum - did the ai play your turn?
or what?

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">That's what it looks like.

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yes, i second the idea primitive!

always turn off ai

*sheesh*

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I do not believe I can do that this time. If I had the .plr files from the Last turn I might be able to, but downloading the current .plr files would just download those that have been uploaded for this turn that is currently on PBW.

I really would like to just continue on but seeing as it is because of the Last roll back that this problem was caused and not by a players fault of getting uploaded in time, I think we better roll back. But I bow to the majority in this case as usual.

If we end up rolling this turn back I highly recommend everyone replaying the turn instead of just re-uploading your .plr files. This will insure that nothing happens like this yet again.

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How bad is the damage, Electrum? Is it just a matter of clearing the "Design 1" cruisers from your build queues, or did the AI decide scrap all of you ships?

If the AI didn't set you back too much, I'd like to keep going.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">That is what I asked in an email I sent to him. I still have no responce so I will wait until I hear from him before taking any action. If it isn't too much damage as you said I think recovery can be made in just a couple of turns and not really be set back too much. He couldn't be doing any worse then I am right now. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

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Hey, my subjects never get my statues ready at this pace http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon8.gif My subjects are screaming for the end of this vacation and new tasks to build the great statues of karibu the Wise! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

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I suppose i can trudge on. It's mostly a loss of a turns production. Besides, it gives me a ready made excuse if I lose! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

I do ask, though, for an extra day to re-arrange things. I don't think I can get it done by the deadline.

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And so the Rollback Waltz continues http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Make sure “AI should not make any changes” (or something) is checked. That way a missed turn will be no big deal unless you are at a critical moment.

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cool man http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

i'm left feeling quite guilty now because of this... if we meet up, you can consider i'll at least give you an extra turn or 2 respite:D

if it wasnt for primitive opening warp points in my space and me going off the deep end in terms of military build up, i wouldnt have cared about the missed turn either (notice i missed one before already and didnt complain)

anyway, thx again, i owe you one

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Whew! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif
Got it done & loaded http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">If I can't win with skill, pity works for me just fine. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I would have given you an extra day but since you already have it uploaded normal timing will continue.

I apologize for you having to suffer through the bad turn. I am sure we all will have to do it at least once or twice in this game.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Cirvol, if you find it difficult to have time to submit your turns in time, you could do like I do. If I am Last one to submit my turn, I make it and submit it. Then I wait couple of minutes while PBW server executes the turn and download new turn. Then I make it and submit it. This way the Last player can make 2 turns in a row and have more time for other activities before nest turn.

Hope this helps http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif

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And along with Karibu's comment you also do not have to do the whole turn in one sitting. With the Last patch you can now save in progress and return to the game later and continue on. Therefore making it a little bit easier to play the whole turn. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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You can?! ...... Oh, ****, you really can (I just tested this). Yippeee!!!

I have been waiting for this thing a long, long time. Somehow I missed this when I read the patch changes. I am one happy caribou now http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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Yup. It is a very nice feature to have! Just make sure not to hit end turn if you are just wanting to save... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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rag, please dont turn on auto turns lol,

i thought we were going to have more time cuz of elect http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif lol

i'll get mine in quickly

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guys, i've been trying to upload my turn all day now - since really early this morning, and geo's site is down

i'll get it in as soon as he's up