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Joachim November 9th, 2004 12:54 AM

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Renegade 13 said:
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Gozra said:
We have found a bit of information to be entertaining. It seems that four empires have formed a kill everyone but us alliance. The pladino collective have become an apendage to these four. I would suggest that all who are not part of this alliance form an anti-alliance Alliance. I would be willing to be a part of this alliance until the 4 are destroyed. Next turn I will offer partnerships to all those who are not of the 4. You may do as you will.

The Hamamatsu Federation

I assume you're talking about the Atull game. Well, seeing as how I'm one of the empires that is a victim of the 4 empire alliance, I would be willing to join you. Or rather, I would be willing, except that I have lost nearly all of my planets, almost all of my ships, and will declare myself dead within a couple of turns. So no need to propose a partnership to the Tyrellian Imperium http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

It is an unfortunate product of the game set up - it encourages these early partnerships and trading/research deals. You have to engage in them or you get left behind. Perhaps the next round should have a strict no treaty above NA and no trading including ships.

And speaking as the Dei to the Hams... If you were brave enough to pick religious you were always going to be a target.

Cheeze November 9th, 2004 07:29 PM

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Joachim said:
It is an unfortunate product of the game set up - it encourages these early partnerships and trading/research deals. You have to engage in them or you get left behind. Perhaps the next round should have a strict no treaty above NA and no trading including ships.

If four empires decide to team up and take out everyone else..not one of those rules you mention has absolutely ANY effect on that kind of agreement.

Joachim November 9th, 2004 07:37 PM

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Cheeze said:
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Joachim said:
It is an unfortunate product of the game set up - it encourages these early partnerships and trading/research deals. You have to engage in them or you get left behind. Perhaps the next round should have a strict no treaty above NA and no trading including ships.

If four empires decide to team up and take out everyone else..not one of those rules you mention has absolutely ANY effect on that kind of agreement.

Yes it does. THe advantage of 4 teaming up is that you only have to research a quarter of the tech, or in other words you get 4 times as much tech. Plus the immeadiate trade of at least 2 or 3 breather types (possibly 4 if you are lucky) and 2 or 3 colony types. You can also trade resources, allowing the most efficient use of everyone's planets.

So, contrary to your "ANY" clearly, not allowing trade of any kind stops the research, breather, colony type and resource trades. So please explain how this would not balance the field better? The remaining players still have a chance as they will not be left so far behind on the tech tree and colonisation tree.

Cheeze November 9th, 2004 08:05 PM

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Joachim said:
Yes it does. THe advantage of 4 teaming up is that you only have to research a quarter of the tech, or in other words you get 4 times as much tech. Plus the immeadiate trade of at least 2 or 3 breather types (possibly 4 if you are lucky) and 2 or 3 colony types. You can also trade resources, allowing the most efficient use of everyone's planets.

So, contrary to your "ANY" clearly, not allowing trade of any kind stops the research, breather, colony type and resource trades. So please explain how this would not balance the field better? The remaining players still have a chance as they will not be left so far behind on the tech tree and colonisation tree.

No, since they can do all those things with every player. However, an agreement to eliminate everyone else is not something your rules have any effect. So there is no balancing on that. Explain to me how these stipulations effect that kind of strategy.

Joachim November 9th, 2004 08:15 PM

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Cheeze said:
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Joachim said:
Yes it does. THe advantage of 4 teaming up is that you only have to research a quarter of the tech, or in other words you get 4 times as much tech. Plus the immeadiate trade of at least 2 or 3 breather types (possibly 4 if you are lucky) and 2 or 3 colony types. You can also trade resources, allowing the most efficient use of everyone's planets.

So, contrary to your "ANY" clearly, not allowing trade of any kind stops the research, breather, colony type and resource trades. So please explain how this would not balance the field better? The remaining players still have a chance as they will not be left so far behind on the tech tree and colonisation tree.

No, since they can do all those things with every player. However, an agreement to eliminate everyone else is not something your rules have any effect. So there is no balancing on that. Explain to me how these stipulations effect that kind of strategy.

Because it gives the other players a chance. Simply put, an alliance of 4 trading everything will put themselves so far ahead with tech that the remaining players cannot stand a chance. If they dont have that advantage the other players still do have a chance. Not as good, but much better than it is with a wide tech gap.

Cheeze November 9th, 2004 08:28 PM

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They have the same chances either way. One way might take slightly longer, that's all.

Without the ability to receive support or information from others, those rules isolate the other empires even more, and make them easier targets for the four allies, only the targets have even less chance of knowing what is happening.

Ed Kolis November 10th, 2004 10:12 AM

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Remember though, that if I understand the rules correctly, only one empire from each game will advance to round 2, where the prizes are guaranteed... so the 4 empires in any alliance will still have to fight it out just like any other alliance in a cutthroat game http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

tesco samoa November 10th, 2004 01:39 PM

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yep only one empire makes it... so the weaker ones of the alliance should perhaps think about their game plan... as finishing 2nd in the first round is as good as finishing 10th

Hence why the game is set up the way it is.

brianeyci November 14th, 2004 10:04 PM

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Tesco check your mail we need a ruling in the Osshod Game.

Brian

tesco samoa November 15th, 2004 12:37 AM

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it is being looked at.

Caduceus November 21st, 2004 09:03 PM

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Anyone going away for [American] Thanksgiving?

AMF November 22nd, 2004 10:37 AM

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Yes, in fact, I was just in the process of notifying hosts and posting on the SEV list...

I shouldn've notified earlier, but I sort of forgot about it. Getting old I guess...

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Anyone going away for [American] Thanksgiving?


Captain Kwok November 22nd, 2004 10:53 AM

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Atull and Dertran will be on ALPU for November 24-28. Tesco's two games will likely do the same.

tesco samoa November 27th, 2004 07:22 PM

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RACE TO SEV FORUMS UPGRADE>

The forums will be down for a day as I will be upgrading the forums to phpBB 2.0.11

This will occur on sunday.

Atrocities November 27th, 2004 07:57 PM

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Awsome.

tesco samoa November 28th, 2004 05:11 PM

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update is complete.

forums open again for posting...

Parasite December 30th, 2004 06:32 PM

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Three of my colony ships took a shortcut through "Enemy" space. They got bLasted. Never trust shortcuts! Even ones you make yourself.

ToddT December 30th, 2004 11:45 PM

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Yeah i noticed that, but wasn't that short cut the result of paranoid nightmares http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/cool.gif
I guess I need to put something a little more current then the ancient BCduc2 ships at that warp point

Caduceus January 26th, 2005 11:02 PM

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These are the final days of the Race to SEV?!?

When do we officially end round 1?

tesco samoa January 27th, 2005 02:12 PM

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Well Not Yet. No one has won a game yet. Play on and on

tesco samoa March 16th, 2005 11:45 AM

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The last vestage of hope for the Galaxy was crushed beneth the boot of Brotherhood opression. The feeble beliefs of the lesser races are no match for the true power of Huitzilopochtli the Western Sun.

Patron Flatline
Scarlet Brotherhood

Osshad Game is complete.... Our First Victor

Captain Kwok March 20th, 2005 11:32 PM

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Congratulations to Douglas and his empire, the Shardeen Hive - winner of the Dertran game and second finalist!

Atrocities March 21st, 2005 07:09 PM

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YEs indeed Congrats.

Joachim March 28th, 2005 10:01 AM

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PBW is down. I cant upload my turn for Atull.
If it cycles we will need to wind it back.

tesco samoa March 28th, 2005 08:48 PM

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Congrats to Rex. Winner of Tundran game.
3rd game to end.

Reminder that Random draw will be coming up on #se4 channel after all the games of round one has completed. Those who are not in the tourney can join in for the fun when I do the draw.

The winners will be posted here, and at pbw and at the racetosev. Also an email will be sent to the winner. They have one week to claim their prize. Or another person will be drawn.

Renegade 13 March 28th, 2005 11:23 PM

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Will you post the date and time that the draw will be held in advance, so those of us who do not frequent the #spaceempires channel can attend?

douglas March 29th, 2005 02:46 AM

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Just checking, but are the finalists included in the random draw? I'd hate to be denied a chance to start beta testing right away just because I might make it into the top two and get a beta slot later.

tesco samoa March 29th, 2005 01:22 PM

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finalists are not in the random draw.

and yes the date will be posted in advance.

Caduceus April 2nd, 2005 10:50 AM

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What is the status of the last few slots, Tesco?

(waits for final hammer to fall)

tesco samoa April 2nd, 2005 12:01 PM

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i will find out from kwok...

tesco samoa April 5th, 2005 02:48 PM

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RACE TO SEV : RANDOM DRAW
Saturday April 9th 16:00 hours Eastern Standard Time.
Location #SpaceEmpires on irc.freenode.net
Prizes
3 beta slots for SEV
2 Copies of SEV ( When Released to the public )
6 gift certificates
1 Ship set from Atrocities
Rules : This announcement is being mailed to all players in the RacetoSEV tournament. After the draw official emails will be sent to the winners of the prizes. Prize winners will also be posted at the following locations. PBW, ShrapnelGames SE4 forum and PBW Race to SEV Forums. Winners have one week to claim their prize by contacting myself or Captain Kwok. If the winner does not reply within one week the prize will be redrawn. This will continue until all prizes are claimed.
Draw. All players who are not in the final will be placed in the random draw. Each name will be assigned a random number. Then a random number generator will be used to draw the number. Players can only win 1 beta slot or one copy of SEV.
Prize order. Beta slot, Gift Cert, Gift Cert, Copy of SEV, Shipset, Gift Cert, Beta Slot, Gift Cert, Gift Cert, Copy of SEV, Gift Cert, Beta Slot.
Connect to #Spaceempires. Please see the instructions at http://seirc.spaceempires.net/guide.php
Thanks to everyone with their help on the Race to Space Empires V

mac5732 April 5th, 2005 11:02 PM

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by chance are there any 6 pack brewskis for those of us who don't make it http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

Caduceus April 6th, 2005 10:10 AM

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..need not be present to win!! Woot! I will be out of town. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif but maybe I can hijack a local computer Saturday afternoon... (/me begins to scheme)

parabolize April 7th, 2005 12:22 AM

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Nevermind.

tesco samoa April 9th, 2005 06:26 PM

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THE WINNERS ARE:
1FSTCAT - Beta
CHRONON - Beta
GANDALPH - Beta
DRAGON_RIDER10 - Copy of SEV
SPOO - Copy of SEV
ALNEYAN - 25 dollar gift certificate for Shrapnel Games
JKUO -20 dollar gift certificates for Red Lobster / Olive Garden (donated by Wardad)
Obliviator - 20 dollar gift certificates for Red Lobster / Olive Garden (donated by Wardad)
Parasite - 20 dollar gift certificates for Red Lobster / Olive Garden (donated by Wardad)
Roanon - 20 dollar gift certificates for Red Lobster / Olive Garden (donated by Wardad)
Tanus - 20 dollar gift certificates for Red Lobster / Olive Garden (donated by Wardad)
Paladino - SEIV personalized ship set (donated by Atrocities)
Emails will go out today You have 1 week to claim your prize.

Atrocities April 25th, 2005 03:22 AM

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do you want this one unstuck as well?


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