Re: Going back to 24hrs
 

Vanhiem had the horror spamming artifacts. Thats a serious loss for him to lose them - they were quite powerful when used together!

Re: Going back to 24hrs
 

yup poor vanheim, once again waiting for machakas turn to come in...

Re: Going back to 24hrs
 

Yeah it sucks..

Ahh well.. Knew I was going to get my *** handed to me in this game.. Just didn't expect it to be by the independents......

Re: Going back to 24hrs
 

indy 9 can throw a few punches...

OMG new turn!

War with Man!
 

This turn, Man attacked the peaceful and serene lizardfolk of C'tis. First belief that this was an honest mistake were shattered by the revealation that it was a pre-meditated attack! The lizards are now at [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/Dagger.gif[/img]war[img]/threads/images/Graemlins/Dagger.gif[/img] with the dastardly Man!!

As for why you choose to provoke an early war with C'tis (of all nations??): It was suggested that you have never fought them in MP. If so, consider the next couple of turns your lesson. First time is a freebie http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Re: War with Man!
 

plz dont hurt me either of you (im just the inocent guy with a pinkish purple flag *sniff*)

Re: War with Man!
 

The truths will tell on the battle field. I felt that the threat of C'Tis was something that should be handled early. And I desired that province. I will be happy to relieve you of all your provinces and your toys.

Re: War with Man!
 

that's the spirit (whatever the eventual outcome).

To Glory!

Re: War with Man!
 

im scared cause if man wins he will probably move on to me and if ctis wins then he will conquer man and be stronger if he wants to attack me :C

Re: War with Man!
 

if you join me in the assault, I will garauntee a period of peace between us for as long as can be expected.

Re: War with Man!
 

but the thing is doing so would expose my soft underbelly (which is rather fat) to ctisian raids as well as the fact that i am currently at peace with him
im so confused :C

Re: War with Man!
 

soft underbelly? isn't that right where Ulm's traditional hunting grounds are located? Perhaps it is time to revisit them...

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Re: War with Man!
 

the only exposed area i have is the area directly bordering ctis and its being reinforced because im a paranoid teenager. because of my current military (and magical) set-up out of all the people who could attack me ulm are near the bottom of the threat ladder

Re: War with Man!
 

heheh. that sounds like a challenge ;p

really, I don't think you should have Ulm at the bottom of your threat ladder. that's almost... insulting... and kind of becomes like an incitement http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

Re: War with Man!
 

Yeah, you have to remember, the gatestone gives them a long reach indeed. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Re: War with Man!
 

the gatestone makes a scout a very valuable tool to any nation who has it. they can sack your provinces when they are most vulnerable.

Re: War with Man!
 

new turn is up

Mictlan\'s Pretender
 

It has been brought to my attention that Mictlan is using an illegal pretender: The Smoking Mirror. We agreed in the thread (on page 2-3 for me) that shape-changing pretenders were not acceptable because they were a little too tough and only available to a handful of nations.

In retrospect, I realize that I did not officially post this decision in the top post of the thread. So I can see how it could have been overlooked. But still it does give Mict's pretender a slight advantage over others in the game.

Re: Mictlan\'s Pretender
 

ahh, balance it by engendering hatred against him :p - though i would say it is a significant advantage...

i'm also a bit concerned about whether the jots are using the skratti... just because their god seems to be so good at killing http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Re: Mictlan\'s Pretender
 

all i know is ermors is an 'insert classified species nam here' and that i had a chance to attack him, unguarded with my pretender and 2 hudras but chose not to

Re: Mictlan\'s Pretender
 

Jotuns are not nearly as good at killing as Pangaea's druid. Have you seen him in action? Very impressive.

on the subject of the smoking mirror, I think its to late to restart, and in all honesty I am not to bothered by it, though I imagine mictlan's neighbors are a little more troubled.

Re: Mictlan\'s Pretender
 

Who you calling a Skratti?

-Hakitursar, the Rime Mariner

Re: Mictlan\'s Pretender
 

New turn just went up. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Oh, and a happy new years day to everyone.

Re: Mictlan\'s Pretender
 

The rules said "1) All pretenders were once human servants of the Old Ones and therefore must be mortal humans (tho they can be mounted). "
My pretender is a human mortal as specified by this rule. Of course I wasn't aware of the discussion saying otherwise. I think it's common that game rules are posted and updated in the first post.

Anyway, How do you guys wish to proceed? I am not interested in having "unfair" advantage. Since the game is early I don't mind resigning.

Re: Mictlan\'s Pretender
 

ehh, it was a mutual error. I don't mind; resignation is surely too drastic.

Re: Mictlan\'s Pretender
 

I figure if someone can have the Freak Lord, some shapeshifting guy shouldn't be that different. Don't resign! This is a fun game. I'm a neighbor and don't see any problem...

Re: Mictlan\'s Pretender
 

Eh, Freak Lord is explicitly a human pretender, usually regarded as being in the "trash" category : 1 dominion (*), 10 point magic paths, HPs comparable to all the other humans. Smoking Mirror : 20 point paths, 2 starting dominion, shapeshifting into a form that keeps all its magic but gets 41 base HPs, 2-3 times as many as all the other human pretenders.

That said, I don't see too much of a problem with it - not like when I ran into a Shedu in a supposed human-pretender only game. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

* : Base game, all the humans had dominions of 1; Conceptual Balance mod has tweaked that a bit over time, as the archmage at one point had 2, as does Pythium's Divine Emperor.

Re: Mictlan\'s Pretender
 

Actually, the divine emperor had 2 base game, he now has 3. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Re: Mictlan\'s Pretender
 

Turn's up.

Re: Mictlan\'s Pretender
 

btw ironhawk, did you like what I did with my artifact wardens? I figure a bow of accuracy makes them worthwhile.

I'll sell bows of accuracy to anyone else who wants them, for 10 astral pearls and 50 gold or 5 air gems and 50 gold.

Re: Mictlan\'s Pretender
 

This is beside the point but come to thing of it, the rational that pretenders with some advantage that are only available for some of the nations should be disqualified might apply to some more human pretenders.

For example the alchemist. Alchemy by itself is a clear advantage and he's only available to a few nations.

I guess it has to do with wether the idea behind having human pretenders is thematic or for balancing. Because for perfect balancing we might as well have all taken the same pretender. but that's not fun imo.

The game is fun and for sure I'd like to continue playing. I take it that this advantage isn't considered as a problem by fellow players, so I'll happily continue http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Re: Mictlan\'s Pretender
 

The discussion behind no-shapeshifters centered more around the fact that shapeshifters are significantly more durable than the humans which were available to other nations. The Skratti also fell into this category.

Not a problem for me, either. But I felt a duty to report it to the community. Please continue on http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Re: Mictlan\'s Pretender
 

Hehehe, yeah that was funny. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif I was surprised and pleased to see them in combat and they actually did a bit of damage. Didnt someone make an Artifact Warden prophet, too?

Re: Mictlan\'s Pretender
 

I think they make sense as prophets, considering how important the artifacts are... but Nifel Jarls are "cooler".

Re: Mictlan\'s Pretender
 

19 hrs just Van and Mict http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

edit: just those wonderful and wacky micts ;p

Re: Mictlan\'s Pretender
 

I'd only be able to play after work today.
So I'll probably be holding the hosting for some more eight hours or so.

Re: Mictlan\'s Pretender
 

new turns up

Re: Mictlan\'s Pretender
 

only a few left to get turns in

Re: Mictlan\'s Pretender
 

I need about 7 hours to do mine, so don't hold your breath.

Re: Mictlan\'s Pretender
 

may i ask why???

Re: Mictlan\'s Pretender
 

lol.

Re: Mictlan\'s Pretender
 

This weekend I will be out of home and unable to play. My weekend is Friday and Saturday the 6th and 7th. I hope it's possible to switch the hosting to 48h for this Friday.

Re: Mictlan\'s Pretender
 

Turn is... not up, waiting for Arco.

Sorry shovah...

uh oh... mod issues
 

Perhaps one of the experts can help me on this... I might have just screwed up my turn because I turned on the 5.2 CB mod to make a God for another game, then forgot to switch back to 5.1 for this game. Does anyone think this might be a problem? I logged in with the right mod and sent the turn again, so it was the same as before... ugh, I feel sick if I screwed up the game...

Re: uh oh... mod issues
 

Nope - as long as you have the proper mod installed, it gets turned on when you play the game, and you'll get an error if you don't have the required mod installed.

The thing to be careful of, is when you have been playing with weird mods, and go to host / start a new game : the mods from the game you were just playing, are still turned on by default.

New artifact turn
 

Turn up.

Re: New artifact turn
 

Sorry for the delay, problems with Inet. Now everything is OK.

Re: Mictlan\'s Pretender
 

Sure. Just remind me when we get closer to the date. I've got a massive fever right now so I'm not thinking too straight.

Re: Mictlan\'s Pretender
 

NP, I'll be sure to remind you http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Hope you'll get well soon.

Re: Mictlan\'s Pretender
 

since the war was made big deal in this thread, I am glad to say C'tis and Man have made a treaty for peace.