Re: Need one more player (C\'tis)
 

Welcome aboard Sicaire! Be sure to read over the original post concerning the rules for the nations, particularly the evil nations. BTW, you mention a few games behind you. I noticed you signed up for the forums today, how were you finding games before that?

Re: Need one more player (C\'tis)
 

this being said, i've made a few tentative tries to upload my pretender to no avail... i've got global.dm and cb 1.21 enabled, a proud MA Ctis pretender but connection just doesn't happen... any clue? I've checked my firewall and router but I'm struggling with a new vista pc so i may have smthing wrong

Re: Need one more player (C\'tis)
 

I'm a friend of Kheldron: we arranged 3 mp games w 6-10 players each during the past 12 months, 2 turns a week. those were pbem games w friends so we did not feel the need to come to the forums for games until recently.

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Re: Need one more player (C\'tis)
 

I've been through the whole post yes, no diplo, just fair trade w neutrals, kill all good, backstab my secret ennemy.

Re: Need one more player (C\'tis)
 

Sicaire,

The server is down temporarily. The host will be out of town until tomorrow or Thursday. Once he is back he will restart the server and you should be able to upload your pretender. I will send your secret enemy to you as soon as CU confirms that it is ok for you to be our replacement.

Re: Need one more player (C\'tis)
 

Hrm, tried the server and it is down. I'll try uploading my pretender again tomorrow.

Re: Need one more player (C\'tis)
 

Hi, I am back!

I need to read the current posts when I am less tired, but for now, the server is back up.

Re: Need one more player (C\'tis)
 

Just one thing about Evil's objectives, they have to kill all Neutrals as well before they can win. Although they may wish to save the Neutrals until the end.

So, we have C'tis back? I don't want to start the game unless people are fairly certain that it is more or less balanced.. do people think Good is too powerful? We can do something to change that..

I mean, I don't think we will know who has the advantage until we've played it through at least once, but if everyone is pretty convinced that Good has an advantage, maybe we should modify the conditions slightly. Or was this concern only because Ctis might not have been replaced?

Re: Need one more player (C\'tis)
 

I think we got a new C'tis player. I say we just start as soon as possible, I think three neutrals should hopefully be able to balance things out if one side is really rampaging.

Re: Need one more player (C\'tis)
 

my pretender for MA Ctis is uploaded.

Re: Need one more player (C\'tis)
 

Can someone update the first post with to example IP and Port?

Re: Need one more player (C\'tis)
 

I have updated the first post with links to the mods and server information.

Re: Need one more player (C\'tis)
 

hmm I've had a change of mind about my pretender but when i try to connect to the server the game just hangs, any clue why is that?

Re: Need one more player (C\'tis)
 

My PC hangs as well.

Re: Need one more player (C\'tis)
 

Same problem here. Always glad it's not just me when these things happen!

Re: Need one more player (C\'tis)
 

Someone pressed 'start game' after they uploaded their pretenders.

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/evil.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/evil.gif

I don't think there is any way to recover that. I think we all have to upload our gods again.

Server is going down and coming back up shortly. Please re-upload and -do not press start game-, just exit the program.

Re: Need one more player (C\'tis)
 

Be sure to add this switch to prevent that in the future:

--noclientstart

Re: Need one more player (C\'tis)
 

i went to upload and only saw eriu, not tir na nog

Re: Need one more player (C\'tis)
 

btw I am the one who messed up I apologize for that to all players: I was trying to hit the cancel button at the bottom of the select nation screen but weirdly it kept going to top of the page so I hit the wrong one and game hanged so I couldn't tell what happened...
Now seeing DonCorazon post I fear the Early & Late Ages pretenders were not uploaded properly and choice is restricted to MA nation, I fear our host has to start the game again.
Sorry again folks

Re: Need one more player (C\'tis)
 

I tried connecting to the network, but the program stalled on "Loading Game."

Re: Need one more player (C\'tis)
 

It should be back up now, DryaUnda.

Re: Need one more player (C\'tis)
 

I just tried to upload and while there is an option for Ermor there is none for LA Ermor and when I click on Ermor it says I have no god for that nation which I know I do indeed have.

Hmm?

Setting these things up is such fun no?!

Re: Need one more player (C\'tis)
 

same here, no EA lanka...

Re: Need one more player (C\'tis)
 

Well, mod games are notoriously hard to start. No one should feel bad about it.
And no, I was not annoyed because of the MoD controversy. Speaking of which,
can we ban MoD outright? I doubt it will make much of a difference with our
settings, and Pythium is one of the nations best suited to abuse it, but I am
trying to make it a standard. :-)

Re: Need one more player (C\'tis)
 

I agree. Someone should make a no MoD mod.

Re: Need one more player (C\'tis)
 

No LA Ulm. Is all this trouble really worth it? I've only played PBEM and that seems to work fine. What is the advantage of using a server?

Re: Need one more player (C\'tis)
 

The advantage is about 20 mouse clicks less per turn http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

The problem is mixing up all the eras and not so much the method of play.

Re: Need one more player (C\'tis)
 

I have a single age pbem game going on w friends and it was easy to set up: I just edited the singleage.dm file to take into account the latest nations because it's not up to date, but why aren't we using this instead of global.dm?

Re: Need one more player (C\'tis)
 

I can try setting up the server again to see if that will help.

Sometimes with this mod I have noticed it helps to start a single-player game first with the mods enabled. That helps the mod activate or something. Then try to log on to the server.

It was working just a while ago.. I am confused.

One thing I did was to just use the same folder as the first time and just start the server again. So people who had previously uploaded their gods probably don't have to do so again.

I think we just need those who didn't upload their gods to do it, and then we can start.

Re: Need one more player (C\'tis)
 

who clicked start game?? as a penalty he should give everyone 20 pretender design points!!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

Re: Need one more player (C\'tis)
 

No worries CUnknown. It's just the good magician Murphy getting his say in. We will get there.

Re: Need one more player (C\'tis)
 

Looking at the server, the following players have loaded up their gods:

Tuidjy - MA Pythium
Ylvali - EA Sauromatia
CUnknown - MA Ulm
Marignon - who is this?? should I set Marignon to 'closed?'
Hoplosternum - MA Tien Chi
DryaUnda - MA Machaka
Kheldron - MA Pangea
Sicaire - MA C'tis
Cerlin - MA Abysia
Folket - MA Bandar Log
Shinuyama - who is this??
IndyPendant - MA Ryleh
Rathar - LA Ermor
Fal - EA Lanka
Randvek LA Mictlan
otthegreat LA Ulm

The following players have not loaded up their gods:
DonCorazon - EA Tir Na Nog
Moderation - LA Arcosephale
QM (undecided on faction)

QM which one are you?

So, we are just waiting on two people I think. Qm is probably either Marignon or Shinuyama.

Re: Need one more player (C\'tis)
 

I uploaded Shinuyama before the server was restarted, but I haven't uploaded again. So I'm not sure what the pretender is doing there, is someone else switching nations?

Re: Need one more player (C\'tis)
 

I re-used the old folder for the game.. it should contain everyone's pretender's they previously uploaded. That's okay to do, right?

Re: Need one more player (C\'tis)
 

If/when we finally do begin, could we please start on a 48-hour timer? My business trip starts tomorrow, and while the turns will go very quickly when I do have internet access, I cannot guarantee I will consistently.

Keep quickhost on though; I will keep the turns churning as fast as I can. ; )

And I'll let you know when I've returned and I can safely go back to a 24-hour schedule.

Re: Need one more player (C\'tis)
 

FYI I have tried a couple times to upload my pretender.

My latest effort was last night and I did not see Tir Na Nog listed as a possible nation - I did see MA Eriu so not sure if that was a mistake.

I will try again tonight.

No complaints - just don't want you to think I am holding things back through my laziness (which in many things in life, is quite likely) http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

Re: Need one more player (C\'tis)
 

TNN is locked and loaded!

Re: Need one more player (C\'tis)
 

Can't upload Mictlan.

If things don't get simpler soon, I may drop out, sorry to say. This is just ridiculous.

Re: Need one more player (C\'tis)
 

I'm not even sure why it was necessary to have all ages, that is really what is causing the problems.

Re: Need one more player (C\'tis)
 

I'm uploaded. Seems good to go.

Re: Need one more player (C\'tis)
 

I agree, I took an EA nation because the game was advertised as all nations, but given how many people went with MA would have been easier just to go 100% MA.

Re: Need one more player (C\'tis)
 

I would guess that because in theory it Should be simple to work this out. In Theory. But then no one has really gone this exact route yet so therefore quantum physics gets to butt in and rear it's ugly head.

Frankly if you haven't the patience to deal with the problems that WILL occur in these sorts of setups why are you even interested in playing an experimental game?

Ohnoe a whole week of my life wasted waiting for a GAME (that someone else is doing the hard work to provide for you) to start.

Get over it. And I do mean it in the nicest of ways. Really. Just forcefully making my point due to the 3:30 am and the beer!

Re: Need one more player (C\'tis)
 

It's like this game was set up at the h-bar http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Re: Need one more player (C\'tis)
 

Randvek - LA Mictlan is already uploaded. Don't worry! We are all good now. Everyone is uploaded.

I didn't realize that the all-age thing would cause such problems. If I did, we wouldn't have done it! I just didn't know and it sounded fun and easy.

But, we are all done with the hard part now (crosses fingers), and on to the fun part!

Well, actually, I have to set up the map, I will do that tonight. Then we can start. I will start another thread for the actual game.

Lets hope it all works out.
 

Keep your fingers crossed that the starting positions work out all right.
I have started on an island before... Land nation, no land neighbors.

Re: Global War (full, server up)
 

I'd like to add, again, that I think the suggestion made by another player that the top two, by province count, evil players should win even if their secret enemy is still alive if Good and Neutral are defeated is a very good idea. It will insure a prompt end to the game, if good is nearly beaten.

I also think adding another evil player is a good idea to even things out. I'm sure you could find one fairly quickly.

Re: Global War (full, server up)
 

Let's say the one evil top dog will win even if his secret enemy is not defeated. The main evil force can probably make his secret enemy a slave vassal anyway.

And also remember that you don't have to actually destroy your secret enemy, only ensure that his/her capital is captured (by anyone, not necessarily you) or that their god is dead at the time of the Ascension. Slightly easier conditions for Evil than complete destruction of the secret enemy.

Edit: One more thing, if the Neutral races are getting iron mines in their capitals, does that mean that their starting positions need to be fixed beforehand as well?

Do the Neutrals need iron mines? We are playing at +25% resources, after all. I'd rather the Neutral starting provinces be random. The Neutrals will get 1500 gold and 10 gems of every type to start.

Re: Global War (full, server up)
 

Noob question : how do you mod 1500 gold and 10 gems of each type for a nation ?
I can't find anything on that in the map and mod .pdf, or in the manual...

It would be fine if I could do some tests ^^

Re: Global War (full, server up)
 

Crap.. I have never done this before. I was assuming it was relatively easy (which was a mistake!). There aren't any mod commands for it?