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WingedDog August 25th, 2008 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by CyborgMoses (Post 633826)
If I recall correctly, nukes are Construction 9, and since you killed all of my researchers a couple years back, I'm not getting there any time soon.

Use "Contact Einstain" spell, this should speed you up a bit.

chrispedersen August 27th, 2008 10:36 PM

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Well, Arco brought his whole arsenal - and kicked my butt..
28 well kitted SC's, communions, his god, prophet - national hero- the whole nine yards. I bloodied him pretty well - but not enough.

And the silly AI declares war on *me*. I can not take him alone - he is doing soul slays that are doing over 1000 points of damage. But he can be taken.

He has 4 mystics in 163 - perfect for seeking arrows, whirlwhinds, or earth attacks.

He has a small force in 151 - perfect for remote summons - like ghost riders, call of the winds, call of the wild - anything to tie up his forces.

And of course, anything that could hurt that communion in 147. And finally again I have to beg for fire gems to blind his god....

CyborgMoses August 28th, 2008 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by chrispedersen (Post 634757)
And finally again I have to beg for fire gems to blind his god....

Whoa, Arcoscephale's GOD cast that? Forwarding all my fire gems (not a lot, since I've been alchemizing them, but every little bit counts).

CyborgMoses August 28th, 2008 07:04 AM

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An update on the nation of Fomoria: although we remain in the humiliating position of having our capital, the only place where we can make decent casters and researchers, occupied by Arcoscephale, we have nonetheless moved forward on our personal victory condition of conquering Yomi. The army which we have managed to build through the sale of our gems to various international interests has nearly reached one of Yomi's remaining castles, and a second force to seize the worthless wastelands that form the rest of Yomi's dominion is well on its way to completion. Unfortunately, it appears that Arcoscephale is so confident in its superiority over Niefelheim that it is finally moving on these lands as well; hopefully we will be able to prevail against whatever fraction of the filthy betrayer's might it has dedicated to this task. Wish us luck, nations of the world! (Donations are gladly accepted in the lobby, even a small sum can make a difference, promotional services provided by Fomorians for a Better Tomorrow.)

WingedDog August 28th, 2008 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by chrispedersen (Post 634757)
Well, Arco brought his whole arsenal - and kicked my butt..
28 well kitted SC's, communions, his god, prophet - national hero - the whole nine yards. I bloodied him pretty well - but not enough.

I think your "losing condition" is slightly exaggerated. :) If anyone press F3 button he would see all Niefelheim's heroes are still alive.

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Originally Posted by chrispedersen (Post 634757)
And the silly AI declares war on *me*. I can not take him alone - he is doing soul slays that are doing over 1000 points of damage. But he can be taken.

You don't border ANY AI, you border me, Hellheim and Caelum.

chrispedersen August 28th, 2008 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by WingedDog (Post 634825)
Quote:

Originally Posted by chrispedersen (Post 634757)
Well, Arco brought his whole arsenal - and kicked my butt..
28 well kitted SC's, communions, his god, prophet - national hero - the whole nine yards. I bloodied him pretty well - but not enough.

I think your "losing condition" is slightly exaggerated. :) If anyone press F3 button he would see all Niefelheim's heroes are still alive.

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Originally Posted by chrispedersen (Post 634757)
And the silly AI declares war on *me*. I can not take him alone - he is doing soul slays that are doing over 1000 points of damage. But he can be taken.

You don't border ANY AI, you border me, Hellheim and Caelum.

First, I don't think AI's matter much. But the fact that I share no borders is irrelevent to having spells cast upon.

Second: As for heroes: Niefleheim heroes were fairly well afflicted during his expansion. Being one armed and blind does not an imposing hero make.

Third: You picked up an enormous gem province. I doubt anyone truly believes I didn't defend that to the best of my ability.
Looking at the casualties proves the point.

The difference is however, that your army remains intact, and in control of the province.

Fourth: Regarding exaggeration - in this very forum you wrote that you feared that I was too strong for you, being kitted out with artifacts.

Yet two turns later, you bring 28 commanders, kitted out, and conquering a province proving:

A). You feared nothing.
B). You had your own 'artifacts'
C). Your words were merely for effect.

It is admirable that you attempt to sway opinion. Every leader should. Yet, its better the hollowness of your words isn't immediately apparent - by your own statements.

chrispedersen August 28th, 2008 09:17 PM

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Hey, since
1. the llamaserver is down (and we don't know when its coming up)
2. we don't know if they are patching
3. its labor day weekend - can we adjourn till Monday evening. I don't want to be surprised by a turn being due.

WingedDog August 29th, 2008 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by chrispedersen (Post 635003)
First, I don't think AI's matter much. But the fact that I share no borders is irrelevent to having spells cast upon.

It is called fate, luck, DRN... whatever, but not AI.

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Originally Posted by chrispedersen (Post 635003)
Second: As for heroes: Niefleheim heroes were fairly well afflicted during his expansion. Being one armed and blind does not an imposing hero make.

Yep, here they are, screenshots of this poor crippled fellows. Donate your gems to save them from extinction.

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Originally Posted by chrispedersen (Post 635003)
Third: You picked up an enormous gem province. I doubt anyone truly believes I didn't defend that to the best of my ability.
Looking at the casualties proves the point.

The difference is however, that your army remains intact, and in control of the province.

You've brought whatever you could in little time, but not everything you've got.

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Originally Posted by chrispedersen (Post 635003)
Fourth: Regarding exaggeration - in this very forum you wrote that you feared that I was too strong for you, being kitted out with artifacts.

Yet two turns later, you bring 28 commanders, kitted out, and conquering a province proving:

A). You feared nothing.
B). You had your own 'artifacts'
C). Your words were merely for effect.

It is admirable that you attempt to sway opinion. Every leader should. Yet, its better the hollowness of your words isn't immediately apparent - by your own statements.

My atack was just an act of desperation. If I don't stop you now, I won't stop you ever, and nobody will.

WingedDog August 29th, 2008 03:31 AM

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Oh, by the way, I don't mind delaying turn till monday late, but why it's a labor weekend anyway? Just for my enlightment.

chrispedersen August 29th, 2008 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by WingedDog (Post 635054)
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Originally Posted by chrispedersen (Post 635003)
First, I don't think AI's matter much. But the fact that I share no borders is irrelevent to having spells cast upon.

It is called fate, luck, DRN... whatever, but not AI.

Yep, here they are, screenshots of this poor crippled fellows. Donate your gems to save them from extinction.

An excellent bit of subterfuge - Excellent bait and switch. I casually noted my heros were variously afflicted and weren't really available for the battle. And you provide pictures of units that aren't in the battle.

Proof? Well, in the pictures of the heroes - it shows the background of the combat they were involved in. Notice that his *don't* show the correct background.

Excellent Grima Wormtongue!

Once again however, look at picture of #2, #4, #5. All variously afflicted. Even cherry picking your own pictures, it proves the truth of my words.

My atack was just an act of desperation. If I don't stop you now, I won't stop you ever, and nobody will.

Ah yes, the dreaded skull mentors. Truly fearsome. Yes, I must truly be overwhelming to attack you with.. SKULL MENTORS.

But since you are so in love with screen dumps....

I'll provide a few of my own.
(BTW, I didn't mean to imply his god directly cast Eyes - it was rhetorical - blinding this god meaning that he was seeing all the things we did).

#1 - His God.
#2 - just one of the many commanders he brought to the fight.
#4 - one of his 16 communion members. Communion masters are not overly impressive - yet this one did 1016 damage on one spell.

So in short, - you attacked without warning (some act of desperation) - most people pick fights they believe they will win.

You've picked up several territories and are kitted out - by your own evidence - better than I.

I'd post a picture showing you winning the fight - but I haven't figured a way to trim it to the size the board will allow - and can't afford more time at the moment.

chrispedersen August 31st, 2008 11:13 PM

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After fact checking: It is INDEED his god that cast the Global.

WingedDog August 31st, 2008 11:46 PM

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Ofc she did.
9 hours left for the next turn to be hosted. Chris, will you be able to submit your turn in that time, or you still need some delay?

chrispedersen September 2nd, 2008 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by WingedDog (Post 635531)
Ofc she did.
9 hours left for the next turn to be hosted. Chris, will you be able to submit your turn in that time, or you still need some delay?

No way.. we were on a 36 hour schedule before! Can it be reset to that?

chrispedersen September 2nd, 2008 12:27 AM

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Capital defenses do take a bit to coordinate. (Yes, Arco has taken the capital province... odds are good that he will have the siege completed, soon.)

So yes, please.. do set it back to the original schedule. I should be able to make that!

WingedDog September 2nd, 2008 12:49 AM

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Look at date, I was asking a question yestarday. I just wanted to make sure you make it in time, and if not - ask administrator for a delay for you.

chrispedersen September 2nd, 2008 02:15 AM

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Thanks Wing!

BTW- for the record... Wing has enslaved at least *two* fully loaded Jot heroes.... plus a fair number of Jarls etc.

If you study the names on the heros list.... from previous turns to this turn - you will see that some names are not dead - they're just gone.

Courtesy of enslave with huge penetration.....

WingedDog September 2nd, 2008 04:06 AM

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Nobody enslaved them. Arcoscephale's salaries are higher and we have a better dental treating.

WingedDog September 2nd, 2008 10:56 AM

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Alright, now it was my turn to be buttkicked. Niefel has destroyed my entire army without a single loss. Niefel is very strong and gets stronger, if we leave it without attention, he will eat us all.

People of Arcoscephale are interested in buying nature gems and astral pearls, in return we can provide earth and air gems or gold.

chrispedersen September 2nd, 2008 12:24 PM

Giants Pay more...
 
Yeah, I successfully defeated the army on my capital.
Although you didn't bring your god, or your communion.

And its funny to see you having more Giants in that fight than *I do*. Not to mention a hall of famer, running around raiding.

Yay! I got back 2 items of the multitude you took that first surprise fight. The scary thing was you *still* managed to get through MR 33! And that was with your scrub army.

I have sincerely appreciated those that have sent gems, and hope I can continue to push him back. I can't pay you back yet, but with luck hopefuly I can start soon.

In the meantime, I will trade or buy any gem. And if you won't help for the sake of not ending the game - then help because I will beat any offer Arco makes.

WingedDog September 3rd, 2008 03:43 PM

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I don't know how to counter Niefel anymore. Just take a look at results of the fight.

chrispedersen September 3rd, 2008 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by WingedDog (Post 635826)
Alright, now it was my turn to be buttkicked.

Yep. It was your turn... you didn't bring your communion or your God - I'm not so enfeebled yet, that scrubs will beat me.
You were overconfident.

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Originally Posted by WingedDog (Post 635826)
. Niefel is very strong and gets stronger...

Less a few minor details get lost in translation..

*you* were sieging *my* capital - *you* still have the territories around my capital, you still hold more than 20% of my gem production. Even now you have skeptics in my capital - Even now you scry the world.

you have raped my lands, pillaged their people. you have enslaved 6 of my heros, and gathered more than 30 magic items, in the initial attack.

The original ruler of this fair land *gave up* because of the damage you inflicted.

So, if by getting stronger, you mean - I have refused to lay down and die - why then by george, you're right....

WingedDog September 4th, 2008 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by chrispedersen (Post 636187)
You have enslaved 6 of my heros, and gathered more than 30 magic items, in the initial attack.

No, no, no, no. There was 1578 of your heroes and 236784 magic items.

GrudgeBringer September 4th, 2008 07:02 PM

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1578 heroes and 236784 gems..........geeeeeeez you guys are in a completely different game (and class) than I am in!!!!

I might as well go to AI now, I didn't know there was that many gems on this whole sight..

WingedDog September 4th, 2008 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by GrudgeBringer (Post 636413)
1578 heroes and 236784 gems..........geeeeeeez you guys are in a completely different game (and class) than I am in!!!!

I might as well go to AI now, I didn't know there was that many gems on this whole sight..

Nevermind :)
My point was Chris is 'slightly exatterating'. Ofcourse there was no '6' heroes and '30' items in the start. That's already way to many. Whent Chris tales stories about me I'm kinda scared of myself.

chrispedersen September 4th, 2008 11:47 PM

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Turn 34 - 6 killed.
Turn 35 - 3 killed.
Turn 36 - 6 killed
turn 37 - 2 killed...

Shrug - check the Hall of fame on turn 34, or 35. Compare to the hall of fame on turn 39. Repeat on 40.

Hall of famers you enslaved on turn 39 Lodgrimme, Eitre, Hralf...

Shrug.

CyborgMoses September 5th, 2008 08:30 AM

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Arcoscephale has opened hostilities by killing my prophet with an arrow from the sky. It has an army of elephants and pegasi on my border. Agartha, please be aware that the followers of the betrayer may be at our border soon.

chrispedersen September 5th, 2008 10:58 AM

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Things have turned around on this front, I'm going to start pushing back.

How can I help?

CyborgMoses September 5th, 2008 05:26 PM

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Well, if you could somehow get my capital back, that would be great!

Jokes aside, the army Arcoscephale has brought to my border is in the province of Heaven's Hold (95), and the province of mine that it borders is The Dunwash (104) (I'm not sure which one his army will be in during the magic phase, does it come before or after movement/battles?), so any destruction that you feel like raining down would be nice. His god is there.

CyborgMoses September 5th, 2008 09:47 PM

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Incidentally, if anyone were to send some fire gems to Niefelheim so that they can cast the Fate of Oedipus and blind Arcoscephale's god, that would be much appreciated.

WingedDog September 5th, 2008 11:11 PM

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Niefel can't cast Fate of Oedipus. :) He has put all fire gems into mass fire shields. :)

P.S. Stop turning Agartha on me - he's the only friend I have in this world.

chrispedersen September 6th, 2008 12:48 AM

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Not so at all... If someone ponies up 20 gems I should be able to cast either this turn or next.

I am down to just two mages that can cast it.. but.. it only takes one = ).

chrispedersen September 6th, 2008 12:50 AM

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Its coming one way or the other Winged = ). Of course, if you want to save your god, you could overwrite it with one of your other mages casting Eyes of God.

CyborgMoses September 10th, 2008 01:30 AM

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Would anyone be interested in selling me a Dwarven Hammer?

WingedDog September 10th, 2008 09:11 AM

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Guys, there's a chance I'm not able to submit my turn next Monday and Tuesday, so I'm asking noble leader of nasty Fomorians to increase hosting interval during that time just in case. Thanks in advance. :)

GrudgeBringer September 10th, 2008 09:25 PM

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Speaking of that... I will be playing Rugby in Aspen from Weds the 17th and back on sunday night at midnight.

I don't know if they want to delay that long (and I am sorry as it NEVER even entered my mind when we started this game that I would be gone those 5 days) or just stale me 2 or 3 times.

If you need to just do it...I will access my position when I get back and decide what to do from there.

Agian, I am sorry for my short-sightednes!!:doh:

WingedDog September 10th, 2008 10:22 PM

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You still have time to find a sub for yourself. Post a new topic, I'm sure someone would like to replace you for a couple of turns.

CyborgMoses September 10th, 2008 11:04 PM

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Indeed, a substitute would be the preferable solution.

WingedDog September 11th, 2008 08:10 AM

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What about my case? Would I have a delay? As I said it's just a probability, it's far fom 100%, but if it happends I won't be able to notify you. I just want to make sure I wouldn't find my empire in ruin when I return home. :)

chrispedersen September 11th, 2008 09:32 AM

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I'll sub for you Dog = )

WingedDog September 11th, 2008 10:48 AM

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Thanks Chris, I knew you would. Don't forget to feed the pegasii twice a day. :)

chrispedersen September 11th, 2008 06:11 PM

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With or without lipstick?

chrispedersen September 12th, 2008 01:26 AM

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Damn. I forgot to monologue:

It was the summer of your dreams.. but beware Arco - the winter of our discontent. Summer has come -and gone- winter yet remains. As you have carried the fight to Caelum, and Fomoria and me - well lets see how you like snow.

May it be an ill winter for you indeed.

CyborgMoses September 13th, 2008 01:18 AM

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Whoa, whoa, hold up a sec. A player who is already in the game can't sub for another player in the same game. That would be a blatant conflict of interest. I think you're joking, but I have to make sure.

CyborgMoses September 13th, 2008 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by chrispedersen (Post 637883)
Damn. I forgot to monologue:

It was the summer of your dreams.. but beware Arco - the winter of our discontent. Summer has come -and gone- winter yet remains. As you have carried the fight to Caelum, and Fomoria and me - well lets see how you like snow.

May it be an ill winter for you indeed.

Actually, Arcoscephale didn't wind up attacking me, for some reason. The elephants that he had on my border just vanished, and the human troops are still sitting there.

In other news, Fomoria would like to apologize to the cave-men of Agartha. After they wiped out a small tribe of natives, our troops, on a mission to do the same, mistakenly engaged the Agarthan forces and drove them from the field. We extend our apologies for this unfortunate incident.

chrispedersen September 13th, 2008 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by CyborgMoses (Post 638077)
Whoa, whoa, hold up a sec. A player who is already in the game can't sub for another player in the same game. That would be a blatant conflict of interest. I think you're joking, but I have to make sure.

Yes, I was joking. ... I'm fairly sure there is no way arco would like me to neuter his position.. especially since he's doing so well =)

WingedDog September 13th, 2008 03:19 AM

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CyborgMoses
:) Don't take everything me and Cris write too serious. In fact don't take ANYTHING serious (at least from me). The secret of dissapearing elephants trick is: I didn't mean to atack you in the first place, I saw you brought a large force to my border and was sure you were going to atack me next turn so I've sent some troops to improve my PD in that province, and cast a seeking arrow to possibly kill one of your commander so part of your army wouldn't engage the battle. After seeng your comments in the forum I understood I was wrong about your invasion and pulled largest part of my army back to not annoy any more, and left some force for scoutfilter.

chrispedersen September 13th, 2008 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by WingedDog (Post 638090)
CyborgMoses
:) Don't take everything me and Cris write too serious. In fact don't take ANYTHING serious (at least from me). The secret of dissapearing elephants trick is: I didn't mean to atack you in the first place, I saw you brought a large force to my border and was sure you were going to atack me next turn so I've sent some troops to improve my PD in that province, and cast a seeking arrow to possibly kill one of your commander so part of your army wouldn't engage the battle. After seeng your comments in the forum I understood I was wrong about your invasion and pulled largest part of my army back to not annoy any more, and left some force for scoutfilter.

I'm sure my counter attack had nothing to do with it...
I have to say dog, I have no idea how I'm going to stop you...

WingedDog September 13th, 2008 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by chrispedersen (Post 638087)
Yes, I was joking. ... I'm fairly sure there is no way arco would like me to neuter his position.. especially since he's doing so well =)

You know, Chris, I laughed a lot last turn when my province was conquired by a single ONE ARMED man wielding NO WEAPON. :D He just kicked my province defenders to death. :D

WingedDog September 13th, 2008 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by chrispedersen (Post 638091)
I have to say dog, I have no idea how I'm going to stop you...

When I hear this words, I know the man has an ace in his sleeve.;)

chrispedersen September 13th, 2008 03:33 AM

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you really don't sound russian = )


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