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postponed till monday. I will postpone more if i see grudgebirnger cant make it.
I think we need to get tirnanorg AI also. I wish people didnt make this kind of things. Its annoyig.

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You should be able to set tir AI through the admin options...but you're right, it should definitely be done.

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There was a reminder posted in the email that DarkHeavens is going to host in 8hrs. Steve saw the post by Torin that it would be delayed until Monday. I just talked to Steve and there is no possible way for him to get back before Monday night. He will work diligently when he returns, but he DOES need the extention until at least Tuesday - at a minimum.

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Btw, Steve is GrudgeBringer. Someone else made the last post for him, as he is out of town with no computer access. So he will need that extension.

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I'm working off the assumption that llamaserver still has my old 2h file and will use that even though it will say I'm going to stale. On the off chance that Torin does not see this and the game hosts a bit early, it should still be ok for grudgebringer for this turn since his old 2H file should be with the llamaserver.

Unless he wanted to change his turn...

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Anyways its a mass stale as the server failed again

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I am back...Thanks to ALL of you for the extension!!!:D

(sorry Aoe)

I see that I don't need to do turn 57 all over agian...but what if you had a battle with someone that DID have to redo the turn.
Doesn't that kind of put you at a disadvantage?

Tir going AI, he was my ally when he decided that summer had commitments he could not get out of. I was in this alliance when hostilities started with Fomoria and now I will have a 2 front war withourt warning.

I will have Tir put out of the way in just a couple of turns if you can wait on that.:up:

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I think we should just run with it this time...everyone staled so most people are no worse off or only slightly worse off than before, but since we allready tried to redo the turn once and it did not work we might as well just continue on and hope that a fresh new turn actually hosts for us.

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Well damn. I sure hope the next turn works. Everyone make sure everything is updated.

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Sweet. I love it when things don't work.
Does everyone have the newest patch installed? (version 3.23b)

If so we'll have to ask for help on the main forum or from llamabeast.

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When did Patch 3.23b come out? I never saw anything about a new patch.

If its the one we started with, then in order to get to turn 57 we had to all have it.

I for 1 have not D/l a new patch since we started this game.:confused:

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I'm not sure when it came out. But it looks like we found our problem! :D

Here's what needs done.
Download the patch and start the last turn we did(turn 58) over from scratch, GrudgeBringer.
Torin can rollback to the last turn.
Then you submit your new turn.
After that he can force host it since it has everyone else's turns on file still.

So try to get that turn done so we can get this game rolling again. It's been over a week now since we've made any progress!

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i just checked and I DO have 3.23b so we ALL must have had it to get this far ...UNLESS someone had to reload and forgot to patch it.

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Are you saying we ALL need to reload the 3.23b patch and then do turn 58 over or turn 57 over?

If you can put a link to the patch so everyone has access to the right one.

I am playing in Omaha this weekend and I want to get this dang turn done so I won't have to have an extension as I will be back Sat night and agian Sunday....

If we don't get this going we are going to lose a couple of players and that would be a shame as everyone left has a shot at it.

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Open up Dominions 3. In the bottom left corner, it will have what version you are using.
If it doesn't say version 3.23b, you need the new version.
You can download the patch here.
http://www.shrapnelgames.com/Illwint...DOM3_page.html

If it turns out someone is submitting turns that isn't using the most updated patch, then that's the reason it hasn't been working.

I figure it's easier to just do turn 58 over instead of rolling back twice. BUT, the only people that would need to redo their turn is anyone that wasn't using version 3.23b before now. Everyone else is fine.

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Good job...I tend to think someone had to reload lately and just didn't think to D/L 3.23b.

and Dis is correct just pull up the game and on the bottom left will tell you your version.

Now I am a little confused...since I have 3.23b can I do 59 and turn it in so I can leave town?

I will need to know soon as I am leaing at 5 PM Friday evening.:up:

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Nevermind, I loaded turn 59 and we staled.

I can't take another Stale as I keep losing ground.

I didn't realize on a stale that recruited troops will go ahead and join the Fortress gaurd.

Let me know......:doh:

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I'm good.

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ill postpone the hosting till we know whats going on. Ill ask llama

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llama might be able to find out what's making our game crash through process of elimination. Hopefully we can figure it out

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Any word yet? I don't want everyone to lose interest with all this down time.

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no, not a word. I hope this gets fixed soon.

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Soooooooo,

What are we doing at this juncture?

I have not tried to complete a turn and as far as I know we have not tracked down the person that doesnot have the correct patch.

We have a good game going and I fear its going to go to waste if we don't get it rolling soon.

Torin....We have not heard from Llama or anyone that has any kind of answer?:confused:

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Yea, this is starting to look pretty grim. Anyone have a bright idea? I seriously doubt it's a patch version issue at this point. Can the admin look at the game log and see if it points at one nation or another?

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I'm starting to get worried. This is one of the extremely few games where I made it to the end game in the 2+ years I've been playing this game. We can't let it die!

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I'm like Bigdisawesome,

I have reached the end game 3 times in a year and the game more or less petered out, or like in Blitzreig (that Executor won) he was so far ahead it was futile and I settled for second.

I am NOT in the lead by ANY means, but I am set up with some stuff that makes every turn interesting and every player left in the game could all of a sudden break out on top.

I have learned ALOT in this game and want to thank all of you in case it breaks down.

I just have ONE QUESTION.....Tyrant, what did you mean when the game stalled the first time when uou said my attack by the Horror Harmonica was comical?:p

I didn't get to see the battle and still am not sure the best way to use it so its important to me.:confused:

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I think the HH is pretty funny in general and i'm not really sure there is a good way to use it, it's kind of a novelty item. What happened was that a bunch of horrors (3?) popped up and ate your barbarian chief and one of his buddies, the other two ran for it, and then the horrors ate my pd.

This is an extra crappy time for the game to glitch to be sure. Sauro didn't fight much, or well, so i spent alot of time planning for battles that didn't happen. (When he finally did unleash his impressive horde he went AI the same turn, so he didn't even ever see the battle.) Now that i'm finally gunna have a good fight i end up planning the same battle three times to no purpose 'cause the game crashed. Very irritating indeed.

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Well, from what I understood the HH, if put on an indie commander with boots of Quickness will spawn 6 Horrors in 3 turns and then he retreats and lets the horrors do thier work.

But you need a Mystic to cast horror mark a couple of times (LOL, and it is supposed to be on the enemy) and retreat.

I have seen it used in other games and completely destroy a medium sized army, so I thought I would try it....must admit, I havn't had much luck with it.

Seems the boots don't let the commander cast 2 times a turn and without 6 or 8 Horrors its pretty worthless.:(

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Posted a message in the MP section.
Admins log does not say anything related to the errors.

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OK, and exactly does that mean in relation to our situation?:confused:

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errors=what we are having right now...

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OK, just wanted to make sure it was still the smae

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I owe you guys an apology for not looking into this sooner. I have been thwarted by the fact that (a) I am currently essentially always in the library (I check the forum in breaks but that's not really the same), and (b) I have no idea what to do.

I will have a quick play though.

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Okay, no time tonight, but maybe it will be fixable. I found the battle where it crashed, so I guess I could just change someone's orders so the battle didn't happen.

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i have an idea....

Just make my opponent surrender, that should fix some of the battles!!!:)

Thanks llama:up:

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That's awesome llama. Thanks so much for the help.

How would a battle make it crash? And who was the battle between?

Is it okay with everyone if we just use this last turn we all submitted, or redo it if we have to? I don't even wanna try to go back 2-3 turns and remember what was happening.

That's the end of my random question post.
Or is it?

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I agree...

Trying to go back a couple of turns is now beyond my strategic memory.

If we can get it up and going from the last turn I am in...if not, I will have to give it some thought.

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Starting now its ok to me

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What exactly does that mean Torin?

We are starting NOW?

And if we are from where. I think I need a little more information before I wade back into a 3 to 5 hour turn to discover that I did the wrong turn.

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I just got a message that DarkHeavens is Hosting in about 2 hours....

I must say I am not very pleased with the way this has been handled,

I know llama did all he could and maybe got it fixed but I asked last night what you meant Torin by your short Blurb.

I know you don't check the forum often but in this case I have NO IDEA what turn is to be done and even IF it is fixed.

I am not going to do this turn as I have no idea if its turn 58 or turn 59.

We can either just set it back when it hosts (as I have NO TIME to get it in anyway now), Or I am just going to set it AI as I have grown weary of trying to keep up with all this.

I am not mad at anyone and I am sorry if it unbalances the game, but I refuse to try and get turns in when there is no information, and no response when I try and be proactive .

I checked the Forumn at 5 AM CST USA time and there was no response to my question.

I get home at 1 PM CST and find out I have about 2 hours to complete a 4 hour turn and don't even know which turn it is. Arrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggghhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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So, why did it just host? Were we supposed to submit turns? I sure didn't put one in. We need an update on what is going on.

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Going by the fact that everyone staled this last turn (with the exception of myself...I happened to wake up an hour before hosting and got a quickly put together turn in) I'd say that Torin probably had no idea it was going to host either. He was probably waiting for llamabeast to say if he had fixed the problem/discovered what was making our game not work. Either way, with essentially 3 stale turns in a row for everyone I'm not sure how salvageable this game is...it's unfortunate because it was a pretty cool game and was heading into the endgame without a clear cut leader in power. (well maybe ulm but it really seemed like it was anyones game)

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When I fix it I will go back in time and try to avoid the first crash. So there is no need to take any notice of any hosting going on now.

It's just very hard to find time... I have to send a chapter off this evening, I'm VERY tired and I am going away for a few days first thing in the morning. I'll see what I can do though...

Edit: Apologies for silly post! I don't mind trying to fix it at all, though it is tricky to find the time since I am fairly rarely both awake and at home right now.

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I agree with Revolution. The Dynamics of this game along with the ever shifting alliances made this one game that was heading for a BRAWL.

It was balanced on a pinhead with the various nations just waiting to see the outcome of a couple of wars and then join in and gobble up a third party.

Its like a Chess game that is very exciting and you are already planning your fith move and you have to leave for 2 weeks. When you get back the pieces are still in the same place, but the board loks somehow different and you have to try and reconstuct what you where planning along with the mydriad of countermoves that are/where available.

I'm sorry, but MY mind works in 'layers' and if you remove me from those layers I won't be able to see them agian even with notes.

Llama has twice said he is VERY busy and with all the man does for this site I think we should respect that.

Good game to all of us...NO, Excellent game to all of us that where still left,

We tried and where patiant but the circumstances are now that it is a flawed victory.

If you want to name a victor, go ahead as I will abstain.

You all know mw and I rarly if ever go AI or quit a game, but this time with Llama so busy I think we do ourselves, this site and llama an injustice if we try and continue on. So I am formally retiring from the game.

Bigdisawesome, I am sorry as you where the clear leader at the time and played very well, but this game was far from over and with the players left it (not including myself since Tyrant laughed at my Horror harmonica attack (sigh))was not a given win Revolution was going to wade in and on which side.

Thanks for all the things I learned and the the questions answered.

See ya all in the next one!!!!!!!!!!!

Grudge

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Lets just wait and see what llama can do with this before we call it over. (though I agree, there is no sense in you burning yourself out trying to help us llama if you have not got the time, your personal stuff is more important than our game.)

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Yeah, sorry, that was a bit of childish post by me there, I was a bit knackered when I got home. Busy times, writing up my PhD thesis.

So basically, I'm fairly sure I can fix it. It's the battle between Fomoria and Ulm at Fomoria's capital that's causing the crash. It seems to have a random chance of causing a crash. I say that because one time when I hosted it, it didn't crash. Unfortunately I thought it was because of something I'd done (it wasn't) so I deleted that copy of the game off my home computer and tried to replicate the fix on the server, which failed.

So anyway, I think it's just a matter of me re-running it until it doesn't crash, but the trouble is it takes 15 minutes each time so it might just take a while - unfortunately since I have to go to bed it will probably be the middle of next week now. Sorry to mess you all about so much with this game! Poor time management by me.

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You should have just given up Tyrant! You're the reason the game is crashing!

hehehe.

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It's you not me! I think you found a previously unknown limit to the number of BFEs you can cast in one battle! My battle plan is simple and straightforward.

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does anybody else get the message: 2h for unknown game?

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Yeah, don't worry, I took the game off the list while I'm fixing it (should be sorted in the next day or few).