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Depending on if we get our turns in or not there will be an extension until Monday Midday.

I have been asked for a 12 hour increase in turns...I have the smallest and easiest nation to play so Ihave no problem with the time as it is. Lets hear from you big dogs out there...do we want another 12 hours? Please let me know by thursday evening. If we get our turns in by thursday evening we won't have a long extension.

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I'm fine with whatever other people want.

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Personnally, I am not really happy with a longer delay for turns as it is already very long (4 days?). Each time I have to try to remember what I wanted to do as I just cannot remember my initial strategy due to the long delay. I have got the feeling that longer delay makes people lose interest in the game itself as well.

However I agree that RL is more important so I will follow the majority. I was just voicing my opinion.

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I am OK with the current length of turns, but would not mind them longer.

- Alex, Helheim

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I've no opinion, I'm good with the current length and this is the only game I'm playing at the moment cause life just got much busier. However, by that same note I would not be opposed to another 12 hours, but would recommend not increasing beyond that.

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OK, Snalltrippin has agreed to sub out for me. I have sent in a turn for this turn, but he should be assigned the position as soon as practical.

Thanks for letting me take a turn at this. It's been quite good fun, and I hope to at least have stabilized the situation and done better than the AI would have.

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Thank you for stepping up, Belac. It has been fun fighting you.

I'm afraid my computer died and the one I am using now is horribly slow. I am pretty sure I will get the turn in on time however, I guess this is a warning that I might have to ask for an extension.

- Alex, Helheim

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Have him contact me with his e-mail address so I can qwitch it over.

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Please don't anyone D/L the new patch to we see if we want to finish this game first.

Opinions please

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I cant play turn 72 before 16.3. Could you delay hosting until that?

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My god thank god I have days to look this over...

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Do you mean 3/16/10 a week from today?

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The game is supposed to host tomorrow (3/09/10), I have beed getting some flack already about extensions and we just had a short one last week.

You are asking for a weeks extension, while I know it is an important turn (all of them are at this point), I don't think I can grant a weeks extension as we have almost 4 days to do the turn now....without inmput from other players left in the game.

I have the smallest nation left and it takes me about 1 hour to do my turn, so I have no problem remembering what I want to do from turn to turn, but some are having a problem if the turns are not on schedule remembering what they where trying to do.

At this stage of the game I do NOT want to see it die because we let it go on too long. If you got this turn in, i think you might find the guys a little more sympathetic to a couple day extension than a week.

Help me out here folks...its your game, what say you in regard to a week extension.

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My guess is that Lihaa:ssa: meant that he needed extra time on the *next* turn, but I'm just guessing. Hopefully he will say something to clarify.

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Although if the person taking over Sauro from Belac needs more time to get their act in gear it would seem reasonable to let them have some.

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I could do today if necessary, I thought we were gonna have till 3/16 now. But I'll send it in today.

EDIT- Llama is saying 3/11 right now.

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Aaminof is correct - I believe I sent turn 71 already. I cannot play the upcoming turn (72) before march 16th. It's only 1 days extention.

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No problem then...we probably won't have a concensus on the dang patch anyway.....

Enjoy your trip...

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From all I have read, questions asked, and info from friends and foes alike....

I am going to go ahead and load the new patch and recommend we all do the same. From what I understand, you can go ahead and submit your waiting turn NOW either with or without the patch.

But next turn you will need to have it patched.

Everyone one here has played before and I am just relaying what I understand. Any other comments are welcome.

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Actually, on the subjects of delays, I'm going to be away for a week starting sunday. I'll get the current turn in (the one due the 16th) but I won't be returning home until the 21st. This will probably only result in a couple days delay and I hope it won't be a big deal.

Edit: Odd note, I sent in a turn and got a stale back. No biggy, not much happened.

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Hello, I would like to announce that I will be away for vacations from the 29th of March to the 21st of April (3 weeks).
I don't want to look for a sub as it will be too much trouble for just a duration of 5 turns.
Unless everyone agree for a 3 weeks break, I will stall for 5 turn (I will be able to submit my turn on friday). I only request that you do not forcehost when everyone but me has submitted his turn during this period.
I hope that it won't be too penalysing and that I won't miss all the action :)

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Personally I've no issue, though to be honest, a delay like that can kill a game. In my own case a break would be welcome since I've just entered a particularly busy point of my life and I don't have time to consider turns as I would like. I was actually going to be posting that I'm looking for a replacement. However, a break of that length would see me through my troubled times and hopefully I'll have time again to play.

That is, of course, up to everyone else. I'll be looking for a sub if we do not break and only be turning in token turns.

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No preference either way. I'm trying to figure out what the hell my plan is for this game anyway. If it goes on break for 3 weeks, i probably wouldn't even notice... 'Oh look, a turn to do'.

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Hm. I would not mind a break. And yet, things are just at the cusp of getting interesting...

I wonder if we could do something like actually reduce the turn time a little once the break is over, to give folks the feeling that there is momentum picking up again.

OTOH, I really understand what everyone says about late-game MM getting to you.

- Alex

If we do break, I think I will try to start up another game in a format I've been thinking about for a while. You are all invited to play. I will post here when I put up the new game thread.

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This game has been alive a long time and we are finally getting some results. I think 3 weeks of break is too tempting to start another game - and that would lead me forgetting this one.

I would recommend continue hosting every 4 days - then maybe we could get this one finished before summer. Ofcourse this would give an edge to those not staling. In a game of this size it's always a bad timing for someone - especially when the game lasts more than 6 months.

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Hm. Hinnom is not that I know of in any major wars right now. Except with AIs of course. We could all agree not to take advantage of the player's absence to attack them.

It would be nice if one could set the nation to AI and then un-AI it later.

Alternatively, how hard would it be to find a sub for just those 5 turns? Especially if the sub has explicit instructions to just fight off the AIs and do basic maintenance.

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As admin (AND the smallest nation) I will do what everyone wants done...personally I feel the game is about to heat up and 3 weeks off will make most forget what we where trying to do.

I kind of like the idea that no one attack Hinnom in his absence, most of the forging has been done, and its pretty much casting now.

What if we figure a way to extend the turn maybe 24 or 36 hours (and of course I wouldn't force host it). That might just get him 2 stale and with no one at war with him, I think we could keep it going and then reduce it (I CAN reduce the turn length can't I?) back to the original we had before he left...

It might also help Mcfake get more time so he can continue....

Opinions?

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Finding a sub for just a few turn will be very hard and not very fun for the one subbing. It is ok for me to stall a few turn, as I think a long break will kill this game and it is starting to become interesting.
But if you increase the delay a little so that I only stall for 3 or 4 turn instead of 5-6 I won't mind at all :D

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I wasn't planning on attacking Hinnom in the next 5 turns... This whole not even sharing a border with them thing, would make a war hard.

Oh, i suppose i do have a 1 province border with them now. Still, not especially convenient. I think I can avoid warmongering in that direction =)

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The only other nation in a position to take advantage of Hinnom's staling would be Niefel. Since FakeyMcFake posted about looking for a sub I presume Niefel will not mind being sportsmanlike about this.

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So...do I add another 24 or 36 hours to the turn or do we take a break? AND can I take it off once i add it?

Concensus please

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My last turn before vacations has been sent. I wouldn't mind about a 24h increase before decreasing the delay but I prefer to stall rather than to see people losing interest in the game

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Unfortunately no clear consensus seems to have emerged. Fakey would like a break, it might avoid him needing to find a sub, but he and others are also worried that a long break might effectively kill the game.

Hm. I guess I don't think bumping up the turn timer is really going to accomplish much except frustrate those of us still playing. I would say we should take a half-break, like take 1.5 weeks off, and then return to normal schedule. That way the delay is all in one lump, so we can choose to go off, forget about this game for a while, and then come back refreshed and ready to find the path to dominance :)

Perhaps a small break will give Fakey time to deal with his busy life, and Hinnom fewer stales, without risking getting people losing interest entirely.

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OK...since your the only one who responded I will postpone hosting 240 hours (10 days) Starting NOW.

Have a safe trip and will see you when we return.

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Regardless, I decided to post my game thread: Small slow streamlands for busy newb parents You are all welcome to play.

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I don't think i qualify either as a parent, or a newb at this point, but thanks for the invitation.

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Sorry folks, I still have no time. I'm going to be putting up a post for a sub and I'm going to direct them to talk to Grudge since I can't check this every day reliably. If you want a sub I'd ask some buddies who might be interested as they do tend to drag on.

Good luck with the rest of the game and I hope to see you guys in future games (when I have time again)

-Fakey

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Could you at least do this turn so we have time to get a sub?

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Sent PM to Grudge, I'll take over if you need a sub.

End game experience is always nice, and it helps me learn.

:)

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OK we have a sub...WELCOME rmcolosimo.

I have sent him his turn and will extend turn 24 hours to make sure he gas the time to look it over....If we don't need the extension lets get the turns in so we can go on with the game.


BTW, Thankk you Hadrian for also responding to the call for a sub!!!:)

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We had somewhat of a confusing time with the sub issue. We got 2 qualified applicants, so we had to turn down 1.

Then the one we got we got confused on who was doing what so he had work issues and pyg grasiously said he would bring his expertise in and sub without a delay on hosting.

So EVERYONE get there turn in as there will be no rollback.

WELCOME Pyg to a very strange game that I think you will enjoy.

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Well, I'm glad you guys have it figured out. I don't like ducking out of games, but I'm way too busy. I sent along a quick overview of what's up to pyg so it should work out well. Hopefully he can make some waves with what I left him.

Again, good luck to everyone involved and I hope to see you all in later games.

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Take Care...Thanks for setting Pyg up!:)

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I have contacted Everyone by PM...we are going again. Everyone should have had their turn in by the 9th.

It is set to host in around 13 hours...I will set 12 Additional hours to get the turn in and then we will proceed...there will be no rollbacks as we have all had time to get our turns in.

If there is a problem, please contact me.

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GB: We got the last turn on the 9th! This turn would have originally hosted today (the 13th) at 19:00 GMT. (And I'd have had mine in then if I didn't foresee a likely need to talk to the new Niefl player).

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Your right, does ANYBODY need more time than whay is on the clock?

I need to know, we have big turns now.

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Hello,
Unfortunately, I won't be able to be back on wednesday as scheduled. All flights towards europe have been cancelled because of the volcanic ashes. Just proceed as planified and as soon as I am back I will start sending my turn again.

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I am back finally :) Hinnom has awaken from his long sleep...