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Geoschmo, do you happen to remember how many turns the game Last? Koth page updated. |
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Alneyan, if you can believe how quickly I'm asking for that map in return...
Geo suggested a game with these parameters: "We agreed to no stellar manip and no intel and three good HW's. And a small spiral (Standard koth) random generated map but with empire placement to put space between us. If you need we can get someone to make the map." I told him I had someone to do a map for us http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif. I will be out of town doing some computer installations (in Alabama) on Wednesday. Back possibly by Thursday night (or no later than Friday night). |
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Heh heh kwok, its 2:34 and you submitted your turn a few minutes after I did. So, I am not along with the skipping lectures/fooling around when I should be studying for exams bug lol.
Actually I don't have too many exams. Actually none, I'm taking a lot of full-year courses. I'm off as of today until Jan 8th =D. Brian |
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Lucky you. I have 5 exams in the next two weeks with the first one tomorrow. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif
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And you're playing SE lol. I like playing like this, better to be Online a few times a week and play 20 turns than play one turn every single day.
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I haven't seen Alneyan around in a couple days SLynk. Have you tried sending him an email?
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I just returned (but I took the time to see and he's been submitting his KOTH turns on time, so I figured he'd be around the forum, too). And if he's like me, he should have this thread checked to notify of a post (since he's going to take it over soon). |
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So Kwok, how was your exam. Apparently it wasn't so traumatizing that you couldn't play 10 turns tonight =D.
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The one today went good. The one tomorrow, I'm not so sure about since it's been mostly a Last minute effort. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif
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I have not been away Slynky, but... *Coughs* Well, you had the misfortune of having your post read at six in the morning, and I failed to register it. *Coughs* The memory...
So that was my mistake, and I will do the map this afternoon (local time). |
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The map has just been sent to Asmala. My apologises once more.
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No appology needed. Slynk was out of town and couldn't play anyway. Thanks much for doing it. And also thanks for putting the 4 huge high mineral breathable worlds in my home system. The check is in the mail. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif
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Slynk? I am not sure he will appreciate being called a "slink", though that could be a pre-game taunt. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif
You shouldn't have spoken of these planets on the thread though; Slynky might get suspicious, and could even admit he paid me well to put one fully developed Sphereworld in his homesystem. I have nothing against taking bribes from *both* players; there is no honesty among thieves after all. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/Injured.gif (Would that do for a pirate smiley?) |
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Finally back Online!
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Koth page updated.
I have four exams next week so I'll be quite busy (no quick updates). |
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Geoschmo vs Slyky - 2403.8
Geo surrenders (a slight surprise as I didn't expect it). A very interesting game and one frought with some exciting moments. With a 3-HW start and "hand" placement, the borders became apparent at about half the map...11 systems for Geo and 9 for me. Of those systems, one of mine was an asteroid field right out of my home system. Geo's were all usable (but a couple were a bit sparse on planets). All in all, a pretty competitive split. I got heavy into research and by the time we had each built up some fleets for attacking, we both sprang at the same time! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/Sick.gif It didn't go well for me as my technically-superior fleet moved toward his system at the same time a fleet of his attacked the planet that I left http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif. Go figure! To top it off, he captured my planet instead of glassing it. Meanwhile, I attacked on the other side of the spiral and made some ground there. But, he was inside my empire. My choice was to try to go back and fight his superior numbers and try to keep him from performing a "riot-run" (after all, the planet he captured had a refueling station) or try my own "riot-run" on 2 sides. By this time, I'm 2nd in points as well. So, I did everything I could think of to keep my empire going: I scrapped all the fueling stations on my homeworlds (all three in the same system), scrapped 2 SpacePorts, and scrapped all 3 Yards. Also, began scrapping research facs (at this point, 75,000 in research wasn't needed as much as minerals) at all the homeworlds and building mineral extraction. Began scrapping mineral storage places in lieu of extraction places. But, it kept my resources up and dropped my research (at game end) to 56,000. My "riot run" didn't result in many glassed planets as Geo abandoned planets as I entered systems. Meanwhile, he was capturing mine. All in all, he abandoned many more of his than he captured of mine...to stop rioting. I chose to research troops in a hurry and built troops everywhere that was important instead. At game end, I only had one planet rioting...not bad, I guess. On the southside, I had run through 2 systems of his and was low on fuel but, if one can believe it, I had a colony ship trailing and settled a planet to put it on emergency build for a refueling station as my fleet moved back to get fuel (and join with other warships trailing them...to make a fleet of nearly 40 ships...about half of them trained). It would have been difficult to stop that fleet as most every ship was fitted/refitted to Sensor/ECM 2's. But that was just in the south. In the north, I made a bold game as he headed toward another planet to capture and won out (after he captured my planet) with my fleet of ships about equal in number to his. But, I was seeing that my ECM/Sensor 2's were fading in superiority as he had 2/1's on his by now. Both of us fielding LCs. By the Last 2 turns, I felt better about the game (as Geo didn't know I already had Gas colony ships coming off the line to help with minerals). But the surrender was a surprise. Capture ships helped out a lot as he fielded armor and I fielded shield IVs...easy to capture his ships (no SDD) on them. All in all, in was a darn good game and a game I figured I had lost. Perhaps what helped me was that he never moved further into my empire with his initial invasion fleet. Had he done so, it could have been a totally different game as it took me several turns to get ships to the warp point he would enter at (to stop him). He played a good game! Scary all the way and I feel a bit lucky to have managed a win. Thanks for the game, Geo! It was a good one, win or lose. |
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Wow, it sounds like Geo had you really harried. I'd love to hear the recap from his point of view.
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It was all smoke and mirrors. I was beat for the Last 12-15 turns and knew it. Only a blind stroke of luck capturing his resupply base in the north kept the game going as long as it did. If he had waited a turn longer to attack he would have totally wasted my fleet. I was in first towards the end only because I was building empty hulls all over my empire and rushing the to the front, retrofitting them along the way.
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Koth page updated.
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I didn't know you were supposed to get something from scrapping facilities. I only scrapped them so I would have room to build Mineral extraction facs.
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You are supposed to get 30% of the cost of the facility scrapped (the same goes for ships). According to Geo, you do not get the resources if you scrap the facilities directly, and will only have them if you abandon the planet.
On another note, I am now stepping in as KOTH Admin, as you may have noticed. Please start sending mails previously addressed to Asmala to my own address, available in my profile (it is alneyan[AT]fastmail[DOT]co.uk). My Yahoo mail is still used, but no longer my main mail, and mostly serves to get all the mails PBW sends. Posting on this thread is fine as well, or even sending PMs , so long as I do get your message. |
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EDIT: Nevermind, I see now the site is back up and I'm in "wait" mode. |
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Yes, it looks like you will have to wait for Joachim or Gandalf Slynky.
The rules page has been updated. |
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Or you or Rambie. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/shock.gif
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Well, our game is very unlikely to finish before theirs. But if you do want to give me an opportunity of settling a certain old score, there are always the Ratings games. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif (I would probably not be able to go faster than four turns a day or so though)
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I don't know about that. Both our previous games went well over the 100 turn mark and this one is shaping up to do the same. We are around 75 turns now and borders are still fuzzy, skirmishes are frequent, and it does not look like either one of us is powerful enough to close it out anytime soon. Always a good game with Joachim.
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Weaker economy? LOL...I took Gas in an FQM map. Well, I didn't know it would be an FQM map or I would have taken the usual. Not a single Gas moon to be found! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/redface.gif
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Wasup Captain Kwok. How are those little Juprupians doing?
That was a titanic battle, the first non-simulator battle I've had involving around 100 ships... er units. Well drones are ships since they can't stack. I watched the battle a few times, exhilarating. Brian |
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Joachim...
Told ya before and tellin' ya now. Top 10. NOW...LOL...you can try to hide your skills (so people won't be suspecting you...and I understand that...LOL). BUT, name me 10 people you think are better than you! Now, NOT to insult anyone...but, I judge skill based on what I have seen and who I dread facing off against. Asmala, Rex, Alneyan, and the big P come to mind right away. That leaves 6 to flesh out the 10. I won't insult anyone by mentioning names and leaving them off the list but I can readily add your name within the 10. Fyron is reputed to be good but I've never seen him play nor have I seen others rant about his ability. So, besides that unknown, I can come up with 6 other players I would worry quite abit about playing...you are one of those. |
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Well its the first massive battle I've had in SE:IV, so I was excited about that anyway. But it turned out to be really cool not just because of the numbers, but because of the way the battle happened and how it was fought.
In the beginning, we both expanded really quickly. It became really clear where our borders were really fast. There was one particular chokepoint where there was a black hole between my system and his. I managed to sneak a colony ship through, and build a colony with a resupply depot. Unfortunately, it wasn't a breathable planet so I couldn't stock up on enough wp, and Kwok annihilated it. That meant that whatever attack I would launch would have to include supply ships. But, I didn't know how quickly large fleets used up supplies, so when I started my attack I only included one supply ship. The biggest tactical blunder was I constructed a couple of ditch ships to try and hold the planet... I held off a couple of attacks, but the blunder was that I upgraded my original design and didn't notice that the ditch ships used MISSILES. And I was researching missiles. So when Kwok battled my missile ships on that small planet, I groaned after realizing that I had exposed my strategy. However, I had already wasted 400k research on missiles, so there was no turning back. My only hope was that he didn't pay attention to the battle. If I had gone conventional missile boat build, it would have been over right then and there. But, I had colonized a lot of non-breathable planets, and built space yards on them to get construction bonus. I used all these small normally useless planets to build -- Drones! Tons and tons of medium sized drones, armed with plasma missile II and capital ship missile IV. So by now, I had wasted nearly 600k research on drones and missiles, I had no research into ecm or combat sensors (I'm not giving anything away by saying this, Kwok already knows =D) So when the time to attack came, I went into the black hole system, but I took a roundabout route in hopes it would be less fortified. It paid off. I plowed through 7 mines (I had enough sweepers to take out 100), and went straight for the system where I had lost that small planet. My hopes was to hole up there, wait for a colony ship to come, build a resupply depot, and then go forward to slag his empire. But, I thought I was dead. Because I had exposed my Missile secret long ago, and Kwok surely had tons of PD. And, Kwok did have tons of PD. Some of his destroyer designs had up to 4 PD, and that's a lot for a destroyer. But the drones came through. (give the pictures time to load, sometimes its slow, doesn't seem to be working right at this moment) My fleet in formation My fleet launches drones The first seekers launch at range 12 Looks like some are getting through His ships come in range of my plasma missiles. About ten drones have died by now. Five of his ships have been reduced to space dust. Many drones have died, a modest amount of drone carriers. The drones and ships that followed the strategy orders have survived, encircling Kwok's ships. Kwok's ships veer off and try to break out of the encirclement, going after some drone carriers Missiles pick off the stragglers While the stragglers hold off my main drone force, the ships that managed to slip away kill off some of my isolated ships The few ships I have left -- my minesweepers armed with only one missile, my light cruisers with six missiles have long ago perished -- take out his Last remaining fighting vessel The writing is on the wall. So, pretty exciting stuff. Unfortunately, that was only half of Kwok's force, and I have reason to suspect that was only a third of his force and that he's getting ready to attack in another part of my holdings. Plus, my ships will soon run out of supplies and will be helpless (its not giving away much, I'm going to fire on my own ships next turn to prevent them from becoming Juprupian target practise). The drone idea worked, but only because I had superiority in numbers, and now I'm far behind in ECM, combat sensors and conventional research, I don't know if I can catch up. Good fight Kwok, one to be remembered. Brian |
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See how efficient my propaganda is? Slynky, who beat me in our only KOTH game, is now singing my praises. A few months ago, I did not make it to his poll of the best players, and now I am in his top 10, or even top 5. I merely need to increase a bit my reputation, and he will make me the best player out there. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif Of course, I hope everybody will conveniently forget I have a knack for losing fleet vs fleet battles, and seldom take such gambles anymore.
Kidding aside, Geo is quite right in saying he has a weak economy. Economies are always too weak, even if you are beating a world-record of expansion. And there is no such thing as having too many resources and/or research; you have 700,000 research points by turn 75? You should have had one million! Ah, you have one million? Better try to reach one million and a half then. This message was brought to you by the SEIV Economist League , and Associated Tech Junkies. |
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I'll be getting a few turns in later today Brian.
I screwed up against that fleet of yours - I was playing the turn too fast and missed the log message about the minefield being swept in Jokala or I would have been able to intercept the fleet at that other warp point and killed it before the drones got out. Fortunately, I noticed you were employing lots of missiles and drones so my next generation of ships are loading with PDC. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif |
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There is a message if they sweep the minefield without taking damage (or if they partially sweep it), since the 1.91 patch I think. If memory serves, there was no message with 1.84 and below.
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I got another message a couple turns later when another field was swept.
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Alneyan, since you're looking after the KOTH page now, could you please move me up the hill? I just won my game with Ragnarok. I think I'll be playing Parabolize now.
Raising his notched sword above his head, then driving it into the muddy ground that has been mixed with an equal part of blood from both sides, Renegade picks up the broken body of Warlord Ragnarok, and with a mighty heave, throws him down the hill to the very bottom. With a huge gasp, he then sits down, nursing the cuts, bruises and scrapes inflicted upon him by the defeated Ragnarok. Leaning on his notched and dull sword, Renegade then pulls himself to his feet and begins the long climb to the next level area on the hill. As he walks, he pulls a whet stone from his pocket, and begins re-sharpening his dull sword. Slipping occaisionally on the bloody ground, he continues marching, past the broken spears and notched swords that occaisionally can be seen covered in rust and half buried in the ground, remnants of former champions who had fallen before reaching the top of the hill. Finally, reaching the Last plateau before the top of the hill, Renegade surveys the lands around him. Looking down at the bottom of the hill below, the sounds of battle reach him, of victors conquering, and the losers being left behind, to fight those who have recently met their fate and been cast down to fight their way up again. Careful not to slip and fall, he surveys the dizzying height, then backs away from the edge. Suddenly, he becomes aware of another presence on the plateau. Sitting on a rock is a man with a large spear and a slightly curved sword. Renegade turns, and yells, "Do you oppose my march up this hill? Will you dare try to stop my challenge of the current "king" of this hill? If it is so, prepare to meet your fate, and join all of those who have been cast down to the bottom by my sword! Parabolize, do what you can, we will meet this day on the field of battle!!" 2404.5: Warlord Ragnarok surrenders to the Tyrellian Imperium. I had a better start than he had, and managed to expand into many more systems than he could. I slipped into lots of his systems, and he really couldn't stop my colony ships from creating colonies in his territories. He had more advanced weaponry on his ships, but I had the advantage of ECM 2 and CS 2. In the end, he tried a strike against some of my holdings in his systems, which caught me by surprise and destroyed about a dozen of my LC's but by then it was too little too late. The next turn I launched a strike with 25 ships, and wiped out all his homeworlds within 5 or 6 turns, then met his 18 ship fleet that had destroyed my 12. I lost about 6 ships to heavy damage, but he lost all his war ships. At that point, Rags surrendered to me. I wish you luck Ragnarok, on your next game. You were a pleasure to play against. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif |
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Like a virgin, updated for the very first time... Erh, the KOTH page has been updated.
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Sorry for bothering, but whats this thread all about ? In all my time i never noticed it...
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This thread is an ever-going 1vs1 tournament. Players are matched on a "first come, first served" basis, where the winner proceeds to the next level, and the loser goes back to the lowest level.
More details are available at the KOTH site, linked in my signature. If you join now, I think you will have an opponent ready for you (the other Ragnarok), unless he is planning to leave the Hill. |
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