Re: Noobs and Vets II: Days of Infamy. MA, BI. In Progress.
 

And what else do you need to be told?
Assassinating the Deva was hardly possible but a horde of green lizards did their job ;)

But the province itself is pretty poor, IMO. I mean the sites, obviously. While, of course, they would be very useful for the Sanguinarium team

Re: Noobs and Vets II: Days of Infamy. MA, BI. In Progress.
 

Whatever else you'll tell me. :D Your team's troop concentrations and locations, pretender info, research levels, interactions with the merc, etc. All the stuff the captain of an oposing team might find useful.;) Thanks for your openness and input though.

Ah, if only we had a human played Sang team to make use of it. :D
Do you mind if another team makes use of it at least temporarily?

Re: Noobs and Vets II: Days of Infamy. MA, BI. In Progress.
 

You may try :)

Re: Noobs and Vets II: Days of Infamy. MA, BI. In Progress.
 

Sorry man, I think hosting games, creating sites, creating rand programs, volunteering hardware and time, and being with the company since the beginning entitles you to voice an opinion.


I don't understand your animus. There has been a lot of mindless drivel - see the joke threads, the sombre threads, septs advertising threads (no offense). To which I haven't noted significant objection, so I don't think you're consistent in your standards.

I have no desire to debate Gandalf, but I think its better to debate ideas not people. I'll leave the last word to you.

Re: Noobs and Vets II: Days of Infamy. MA, BI. In Progress.
 

I said I am. Im in 3 at the moment long games. Not to mention short irc games. How many are you in right now?

But... who jumped us just to mp? Ive been told that cbm is something everyone should used including solo players and brand new people. Both of those I disagree with. If you do also then we at least have one agreement.

Heehee. One of my sigs says
If I knew more about the subject I could charge more for my answers.
What do I charge now? Oh this was offered for free.
Im no longer paid here. Sorry.
In fact, Im retired. I can do anything I want and not worry about that. My hourly rate on various small internet jobs is based totally on whether or not the subject is interesting. Which also tends to explain the type of mods and things I do.

I know that you are filling in. Im sure you will get better at it.

Re: Noobs and Vets II: Days of Infamy. MA, BI. In Progress.
 

Chris:
Graeme's point was you should be familiar with how MP is played, especially by the more competitive players, in order for your opinion on MP games to be taken seriously. You should also have experience with the mod in question. I haven't seen Gandalf sign up to use any CBM 1.6 games, maybe he has, I don't know, but his general apparent hostility to the mod doesn't seem well reasoned, and he doesn't seem to understand the MP metagame at all. (His association of CBM with 'dueling' is mindboggling, since I've only seen one duel game ever organized on this or any other forum - not that I can say I follow all the forums Dom3 gets games organized on, but dueling seems really rare).

How many of those games use CBM? If you want your opinion on CBM to carry any weight you need to actually play with it.

If you never intend to play MP, then sure, play vanilla. Play totally random stuff. Play whatever the hell you want. It doesn't matter.

If you intend to play MP (especially on this or the new more-sombre forums), you should just start with CBM and never look back, because 80+% of games use CBM. Might as well familiarize yourself with the version of the game you'll actually be using most of the time, even in SP.

If nothing else, eliminating gem gens means that I will actively avoid playing in non-CBM 1.6+ games from now on, because gem gens leads to degenerate gameplay that I don't find appealing. (Note I'm only subbing in this game as a favor to Chris). Lots of other players feel the same way. So just because a minority of games still happen using vanilla doesn't mean you'd ever have to actually play in one. And since most of the best MPers seem to only play CBM, if you want to play against the strongest players the game has to offer you're going to want to spend your time practicing CBM.

Re: Noobs and Vets II: Days of Infamy. MA, BI. In Progress.
 

This topic seems to come up a lot in this thread. Maybe someone should make a CBM vs vanilla thread on the main forum for debating the subject?

Re: Noobs and Vets II: Days of Infamy. MA, BI. In Progress.
 

Some do tho none at the moment. Most actually cut up cbm into pieces and play with just the pretender parts or the gengen parts. I guess if I wanted my "opinion on CBM to carry any weight" Id play more of them and join in on the cbm conversation thread. But my only opinion on cbm is that its not worthy of becoming the "de facto standard" of Dom3. :)

That might be true of Sombre's forums. Im not sure about 80% here. But as far as those go I guess your statement is true. If I was interested in MP games of those type then I could expect them to be cbm.

And again, back to this forum, and the king of the hill crowd (by duelist I didnt mean one-on-one as much as the my-strategy-kicks-your-*** challenges gaming). Im not sure how "best MPers" would stand up but I know a number of pretty kickass players that I dont remember seeing in a cbm game. Possibly our views are restricted. I enjoy playing with the devs altho Im not sure how they compare on your scale.

So the feeling is that only those who can win games using cbm are qualified opinions on why cbm is good? And all of the best MPers play cbm only? And their opinions on what "always happens" in non-cbm games are the generally accepted facts?

Re: Noobs and Vets II: Days of Infamy. MA, BI. In Progress.
 

That would give you a valuable opinion on those things, and still make your opinion worthless on multiplayer balance. That he's a former employee of Shrapnel who left on apparently good terms actually makes his opinion worth less than if he wasn`t, since it provides an obvious conflict of interest.

I don't like people who waste my time with PR copy.

Parker doesn't have any ideas. He spouts the mindless middle, which is the fallacious idea that whatever is in the middle of two viewpoints is correct rather than what is supported by the evidence.

Re: Noobs and Vets II: Days of Infamy. MA, BI. In Progress.
 

Really? Do you have any actual statistics on this? Because it was only within the last month that Edi even released such a version of CBM 1.6, and the something awful forums have a tiny number of games compared to Llamaserver. And guess what. Not a single game on Llamaserver is using such a sliced up version of CBM 1.6

Yes, we're well aware that you're ignorant. Are you still going to prattle on about how putting black hearts on Pan's and assinating independent commanders is a great way to expand in the early game?

It was shown to you several months ago that well over 80% (closer to 95%) of all games on Llamaserver are using a version of CBM. Can you please try and utilize the actual evidence instead of your imagination? Evidence has value. Your statements based on what you think do not.

Here Parker indicates that he likes to utilize strawman arguments. Nobody has made this statement other than you. Can you please try and debate honestly? Or is that impossible for a paid Shrapnel shill?

But really. Could you please try and base your arguments on reality instead of your imagination?