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brianeyci January 11th, 2005 11:44 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the \"King of the Hi
 
Well. So are mine. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Brian

Captain Kwok January 11th, 2005 11:47 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the \"King of the Hi
 
Quote:

brianeyci said:
Well. So are mine. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Brian

Based on your projected economic output, I'd highly doubt that. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

brianeyci January 11th, 2005 11:52 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the \"King of the Hi
 
And how are you "projecting" my economic output praytell?

Those really aren't my state-of-the-art battlecruisers. My state-of-the-art ones are right behind the cannon fodder =D.

Brian

geoschmo January 12th, 2005 10:19 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the \"King of the Hi
 
Alneyan,

Vadim Bey has beaten me in our game. Knock me back down to the bottom of the hill and move him up.

Geoschmo

Alneyan January 12th, 2005 04:42 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the \"King of the Hi
 
Slynky, have you crossed a star recently? I cannot connect to PBW at the moment, because of my odd local bug I guess. I can create the game if you want, but I will need someone else to actually upload it to PBW (Geo, as he is an admin perhaps).

Hopefully, this problem will solve itself in a couple of days as usual. Hopefully. *Sighs*

Slynky January 12th, 2005 04:46 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the \"King of the Hi
 
LOL..."crossed a star"? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif

Must be tough running the KOTH site with small irritations like that http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/shock.gif.

Geo's around. Perhaps he'd post your/our game.

Alneyan January 12th, 2005 05:01 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the \"King of the Hi
 
I was thinking of the adjective "star-crossed", but somehow I put a verb instead, which isn't exactly clear and not English to the best of my knowledge.

Well, running games is certainly fun when you have a volatile connection and an uncertain access to PBW. Fortunately, it doesn't Last too long, but it tends to be fairly widespread (I have as many as one third of all sites on the Internet unavailable for several hours). And here comes yet another digression I guess. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

geoschmo January 12th, 2005 05:11 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the \"King of the Hi
 
Alneyan, email it to me. I'll upload it.

Geoschmo

Alneyan January 12th, 2005 05:45 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the \"King of the Hi
 
The game has been sent to Geo, and has been checked afterwards. There are no ruins, there are five good homeworlds, full tech, no events, no strings attached. The manual placement worked out, and you have all your breathable planets in your starting system(s), so it should be fine this time.

My only concern is (as usual) the relatively small size of the map. It was the biggest I got from Small Spiral Arms though, and I am probably biased towards bigger maps, so. What this sort of map what you had expected Slynky?

geoschmo January 12th, 2005 06:08 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the \"King of the Hi
 
Replacement turn uploaded.

Slynky January 12th, 2005 07:18 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the \"King of the Hi
 
Thanks, guys!

I don't see any ruins. As to map size, small spiral will make it quick and dirty, so don't worry about the size it turned out, Alneyan. A slugfest is a slugfest http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/stupid.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/shock.gif

Alneyan January 14th, 2005 08:32 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the \"King of the Hi
 
KOTH has been updated.

Slynky, if ruins appear in your game, I will put the blame on Geo, who could have made a plot against me. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif Kidding aside, there were no ruins when I checked with an Ancient Empire, so everything should be fine.

And the bottom line about ruins: I will remove normal ruins via a mod in all games I create from now on. If I forget to turn the ruins off when creating the game, unique tech will appear; I will then offer the players to set up a quick mod, making these special techs impossible to use. Of course, I hope I will not forget to turn off the ruins again, but better safe than sorry.

Slynky January 14th, 2005 09:04 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the \"King of the Hi
 
Well, I've been to 5 systems now and I don't see any ruins yet...so...looks like we've got a winner. Thanks for the extra attention.

Alneyan January 16th, 2005 09:59 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the \"King of the Hi
 
Rambie has surrendered to me, so I will need someone to set up my next game in KOTH (I cannot be the admin of my own game).

On another note, PBW works again for me, so I should not have to bug you any more Geo. KOTH will be updated in a few minutes.

geoschmo January 16th, 2005 11:21 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the \"King of the Hi
 
Alneyan, I can set your game up for you. Are you matched against Vadim Bey?

Geoschmo

Alneyan January 16th, 2005 11:44 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the \"King of the Hi
 
Yes I am playing with Vadim Geo. Incidentally, your message reminded me I did not upload the koth file; now KOTH has been updated.

Thanks for taking care of my game!

Master Belisarius January 16th, 2005 11:57 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the \"King of the Hi
 
Hey Geo(rge), thanks for moderate my game against the King!
Hope I'll offer a decent challenge to the King.

Alneyan January 25th, 2005 01:04 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the \"King of the Hi
 
K.O.T.H has been updated.

geoschmo January 28th, 2005 11:36 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the \"King of the Hi
 
*yawn* I'm bored. Any of you players on the lower level about to finish your game and come up and face me? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

Captain Kwok January 28th, 2005 07:07 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the \"King of the Hi
 
The game between Brianeyci and myself has slowed recently to only a few turns a week - so I don't think we'll be finished anytime soon. He may also be sad after I was able to repel his crystalline attack and the fact that I have 2/3's of the galaxy. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

brianeyci January 28th, 2005 08:23 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the \"King of the Hi
 
Yes Kwok, I am pretty sad.

But no matter, the game goes on.

I haven't played much since I've been sick for the past couple weeks.

Brian

Renegade 13 January 28th, 2005 11:21 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the \"King of the Hi
 
Well Geo, Ragnarok and I should be done within about 10-15 turns. We've both launched the fleets we've been building up for the whole game, and while he has a fleet of 46 LC's and a couple Cruisers, I have about the same amount of ships in the counter-fleet. Plus a few more lying around. Might be one of us that faces you then http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Slynky January 30th, 2005 10:33 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the \"King of the Hi
 
Joachim and I are about done (which means I'm about done).

Nodachi February 1st, 2005 10:19 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the \"King of the Hi
 
Stick a fork in me, I'm done! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif
2409.8 - Nodachi surrenders to Gozguy. Extremely late contact in this one made for an interresting "where the hell is he?" game.

OK, who will be my next tormentor? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

geoschmo February 2nd, 2005 11:55 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the \"King of the Hi
 
Ahhh, so unless some other game has ended and the players didn't post here about it, my next match will be against GozGuy. I cannot wait. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Alneyan February 2nd, 2005 01:33 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the \"King of the Hi
 
What do we have here? A KOTH update!

Gozra February 2nd, 2005 01:41 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the \"King of the Hi
 
What a game Nodachi!
I was terrified right until the end. When your first fleet came through the warp point and took out my fleet with no losses to your own fleet I was sure the game was over at that point I even thought I would surrender. Then decided to make you work for it.
Good luck

Well Geo so far you have an unbroken string of KOTH victories against me. But on any given Sunday.....

Nodachi February 4th, 2005 01:49 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the \"King of the Hi
 
Has anybody heard from Rambie? I e-mailed him about game settings but haven't heard back. Of course it could be that unlike me he has a life! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

brianeyci February 6th, 2005 04:10 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the \"King of the Hill\"?
 
Defeat.

I didn't execute crystalline strategy properly, and when I did I had already wasted hundreds of thousand of research points on missiles, allowing Kwok to get superior ECM/CS support. By the time I caught up to Kwok, he had researched shield generator destroying weapons.

Keep me on the hill, I await the next challenger. GG Kwok, had to learn the hard way that missiles are totally pointless =D.

Brian

Alneyan February 6th, 2005 04:22 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the \"King of the Hi
 
Missiles are not totally pointless, just pointless after turn 2 or so. They still make nice weapons for that first escort, but they are awful at anything else. A certain Geo sent two DUC frigates to destroy my nine seeker frigates, and believe me, that's no fun. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

KOTH has been updated.

Captain Kwok February 6th, 2005 07:32 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the \"King of the Hi
 
Aw, shucks. Just when I had my warp openers in position for the actual strike. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

It was a fun game anyway and mostly lucky for me since I was able to grab a lot of territory at first and steal some oxygen breathers - which really helped to boost up those research points and resources.

brianeyci February 6th, 2005 11:44 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the \"King of the Hi
 
Quote:

Captain Kwok said:
Aw, shucks. Just when I had my warp openers in position for the actual strike. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

It was a fun game anyway and mostly lucky for me since I was able to grab a lot of territory at first and steal some oxygen breathers - which really helped to boost up those research points and resources.

Dammit, you stole oxygen breathers? Hahahahaha.

Yes, I quit early, but it would have been just a mop-up operation for you Kwok =D.

Brian

Slynky February 8th, 2005 09:41 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the \"King of the Hi
 
Looks like Slynky suffers another thrashing at the hands of Joachim. 5 starting homeworlds and full tech (and no mines). Looked like a game of "you ain't comin' thru this hole!" as battle winners were the ones who defended behind warp holes. Only one battle "in the open" and I lost it really badly!

Joachim plays a MEAN game and he deserves to move up the Hill a bit further. Hats off to you, sir!

Joachim February 8th, 2005 08:51 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the \"King of the Hi
 
Thanks Slynky for the game - it is always a pleasure to play such an excellent player and great sport.

This was my first full tech KOTH style game and it was actually very taxing on the planning. I was never sure if I was meant to be expanding the economy (which was already v.strong with 5 homeworlds) or building the war fleet.

I was lucky that I stoped your first attack fleet at the edge of my colonised systems. Had you won that battle it would have been very diferent.

I would be interested to hear your (and others of course) thoughts on using organic tech in a game like this. I seriously considered it but decided against it in the end because it would require upping Org mining ability and building a lot more organic miners (harversters?) as well. I also like the organic rammers in theory, but in practive I have often had trouble getting them to work. You seemed to have a simlar issue, such as the last battle when they moved away for the first turn, giving my ships ample time to hammer them.

Cheers for the game!

Alneyan February 9th, 2005 01:27 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the \"King of the Hi
 
Beware Joachim, I am coming from you. I should be the one to be worried of course, but you know, psychological warfare and all. Of course, I still have to win my own game, but I should banish all doubts from my mind.

KOTH has been updated.

Joachim February 9th, 2005 10:39 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the \"King of the Hi
 
Quote:

Alneyan said:
Beware Joachim, I am coming from you. I should be the one to be worried of course, but you know, psychological warfare and all. Of course, I still have to win my own game, but I should banish all doubts from my mind.

KOTH has been updated.

I fear little - I just recall the great and mighty victories we had over your full tech "God race" in Negoc with my low tech wannabes.... Of course you not being allowed to shoot back had nothing to do with it http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

brianeyci February 10th, 2005 01:34 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the \"King of the Hi
 
Well Slink, it will be a pleasure to play one of the masters.

Give me a couple days though, been missing all my PBW games for a few days cause of RL.

Brian

Slynky February 10th, 2005 09:35 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the \"King of the Hi
 
Quote:

brianeyci said:
Well Slink, it will be a pleasure to play one of the masters.

Give me a couple days though, been missing all my PBW games for a few days cause of RL.

Brian

One of the masters http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif I get routinely smacked by the masters so, I suspect, I'm not one of them.

Take your time. RL comes first.

Ragnarok February 10th, 2005 01:00 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the \"King of the Hi
 
Move Renegade up a level please. I got beat once again by him. Two in a row to Renegade, how does that happen?! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

My fleet can wipe out his fleets with little problem but my economy can no longer keep up. I knew economy would be an issue with me as it was the first game between us, so I focused on that early in the game and not so much on research. But in the end I still could not produce enough to support my ships coming off the line.

Another thing I did wrong was I did not take the offensive when I should have. Renegade made the first move and I was playing defensively from that point forward. If I could have taken the fight to his systems it could have ended differently. But alas, I lost again. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/mad.gif

Please take me off the hill for a little while until life slows down a bit.

Thanks

Alneyan February 10th, 2005 01:29 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the \"King of the Hi
 
I recall losing a couple of scouts here and there to your fleets Joachim. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif Kidding aside, I don't think we fought a lot in this game, at least not while I was ruling the Sign. The problem was rather your partner in crime, whose Talisman-powered vessels blasted my Talisman-equipped vessels. Losing a whole fleet without doing any damage whatsoever is so embarrassing.

I will stick with my usual line: I cannot make my ships to behave properly, and gave up trying. I am now used to losing my first invading fleets, so all those first vessels have KIA crews before even leaving my spaceyards. Then I cross my fingers and hope the third wave will be able to finish the enemy off, after the second wave came close to victory. My people delights in military defeats! It means we are doing well somewhere else. I hope.

KOTH will be updated as soon as possible; I cannot connect to PBW at the moment.

Alneyan February 10th, 2005 05:49 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the \"King of the Hi
 
Following miscellaneous delays, KOTH has now been fully updated, games have been created, and plots have been devised.

You certainly are one of the masters Slynky. I mean, you do belong to the SEIV Skulls and Bones, don't you? Or at least what remains of our little cabal, after so many of us got killed planning uprisings and the like.

Slynky February 10th, 2005 07:41 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the \"King of the Hi
 
Quote:

Alneyan said:[/bYou certainly are one of the masters Slynky. I mean, you do belong to the SEIV Skulls and Bones, don't you? Or at least what remains of our little cabal, after so many of us got killed planning uprisings and the like.

I should be one of the Masters if for no other reason than I get b-slapped by them in so many games http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/redface.gif.

Captain Kwok February 10th, 2005 08:15 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the \"King of the Hi
 
Renegade 13:

I propose the following settings for our match: 1 planet start, medium-tech, no intel, no ruins, and 2000pts.

Slynky:

Did you remember to update your ratings site for the game between Brianeyci and myself?

Renegade 13 February 10th, 2005 09:26 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the \"King of the Hi
 
Kwok: Those settings are fine with me. However, what do you think about no religious? I just think the Talisman provides too much of an advantage (if it can be obtained). Also, what's your opinion on the Ancient trait? Allowed or not allowed?

Another good game Ragnarok! Though I'm not so sure that your fleet could beat my newest fleet that was on its way...it had weapons equal to your and an extra 2 levels or armor, plus an extra level in ECM and Combat Sensors. But that is finished. As soon as the borders were established, I believed that you may have trouble with you economy. Somehow I managed to seize a few more systems than you did, although 4 were asteroids only, one was a nebula, and another was a black hole!

All in all it was another good, enjoyable game. Perhaps we will meet again sometime, and your Rorg will have their shot at revenge!

Captain Kwok February 10th, 2005 09:40 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the \"King of the Hi
 
Oh yeah, no religious - or religious without using the talisman is fine too.

Renegade 13 February 10th, 2005 10:35 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the \"King of the Hi
 
Agreed.

Captain Kwok February 10th, 2005 10:41 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the \"King of the Hi
 
Ok. Prepare for death then. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

Rathar February 11th, 2005 07:53 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the \"King of the Hi
 
Hey!~ I could just read the first page of this (which I shall do immmediately after posting this..) but umm how do I join you all?

I am certain that I have the unique ability to get killed by y'all in the fastest time possible but hey, I am sick to death of 1 week per turn games... Plus (frankly) I want to destroy Alneyan as his battle techniques confound me (the rest of you I merely want to kill..)

Rathar February 11th, 2005 08:05 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the \"King of the Hi
 
OK, read the first page, followed the links (which are deadly broken anyways..) and went to the last page etc etc...


I wish to join the horde at the bottom of the hill pls, any tech, any setting is good, i'll adjust strats to meet allowances.

Nodachi February 11th, 2005 08:16 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the \"King of the Hi
 
The site with all the rules: http://www.spaceempires.net/koth/

Welcome abaord!

Edit: Another good way to get into quick games is to join the ranks of the rated. Info at http://se4-gaming.net/. Once you've joined check out Rated Challenges thread.


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