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B0rsuk October 13th, 2005 07:06 AM

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1. New, suplementary battle orders: alternative target

It would be used for ranged units. If the target of ranged units is very close to friendly units, alternative target is used instead.

- safe shooting: it should be possible to order ranged units to completely STOP shooting once their target is too close to allied units and there are no alternative targets.
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2. Commander orders templates

By pressing a key combination, like CTRL-1, I'd like to be able to give predefined set of orders to selected commander.

Endoperez October 13th, 2005 11:36 AM

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Your 2. exists: Currently, you COPY the order combination by Ctrl-1, and PASTE it by pressing 1. All numbers from zero to nine work. You must do this while hovering mouse above the orders of that commander.

It is poorly documented, but it was added quite a few patches ago.

Turin October 13th, 2005 01:15 PM

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Some more UI suggestions:

1)When recruiting units, you should be able to recruit multiple units with shift-click or ctrl-click. Shift click could be 5 untis ctrl-click could be 10.

2) There should be a button called "Recruit troops" , that automatically recruits troops until your resources are used up. You could either make the recruited troop chooseable
(right clicking on the recruitment button would open up a palette of the recruitable troops in the province and you could create a template that should always be used when you click the button) or it simply recruits the units with the best Rcost/gcost efficiency, so that you get the most heavy troops possible for your gold.

3) This one is trickier to implement, but it would improve the UI considerably. Right now artifact creation is a pain, you basically have to remember all the pathcosts to know which mage can forge which item and even then you have to hunt down the specific mage and tinker with all the path boosters.
It would be far better if there was a create artifact screen, that shows you all the artifacts you can create with your researching/defending/ally summoning mages. Then you simply click on the things you want and the program automatically assigns the mages to the artifacts(assigning those with defend orders first, then the worst researchers, then the summoners. (bonus points if you can assign dwarven hammers to those mages, and even more bonus points if they get boosters assigned automatically if needed).

4) This has probably been mentioned before, but there should be a limit in the pool gems screen. As in pool all gems, but donīt take the last x gems. Would greatly help bloodhunting micromanagement.

Reverend Zombie October 13th, 2005 04:55 PM

Re: The Dominions 3: \"Wishlist\"
 
Quote:

Endoperez said:
Your 2. exists: Currently, you COPY the order combination by Ctrl-1, and PASTE it by pressing 1. All numbers from zero to nine work. You must do this while hovering mouse above the orders of that commander.

It is poorly documented, but it was added quite a few patches ago.

Not only is it poorly documented, it is temporary. A template should persist from turn to turn so that you do not have to *hunt for commander with orders you want to copy* and then *hunt for commander to receive the orders."

A template would ideally be viewable and editable even if not currently assigned to a commander.

Endoperez October 13th, 2005 05:04 PM

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Reverend Zombie said:
Not only is it poorly documented, it is temporary. A template should persist from turn to turn so that you do not have to *hunt for commander with orders you want to copy*
and then *hunt for commander to receive the orders."


It does stay over many turns, and even stays if you exit the game. They aren't saved/moved between games, which might be what you were after.

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A template would ideally be viewable and editable even if not currently assigned to a commander.

Yes, I'd like an addition like this. Many order-slots that could be filled as needed, and a possiblity to set orders from the list to spesific slot (0 through 9). As there could be lots of them, it would propably work much better if they could be given custom names. So, Seith_Darts could be [Eagle Eyes, Nether Darts x4, Cast spells], Seith_Prot might be [Luck, Body Ethereal, Nether Dart sx3, Cast Spells], H3Bless [Blessing x2, Sermon of Courage x3, Stay behind troops], etc. All of these and lots more would be saved, and they could be accecced whenever needed, whatever the nation.

Reverend Zombie October 13th, 2005 05:45 PM

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Endoperez said:
It does stay over many turns, and even stays if you exit the game.

No kidding? I could have sworn I tried it and gotten nothing. I'll have to give it another shot.

Daynarr October 13th, 2005 08:08 PM

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Lol, scripts are saved with save game so you can set them on turn one and use them whenever needed during game (single or multi). I'm really surprised that after all this time you still don't know that (you are way past N00b point http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif).

Reverend Zombie October 14th, 2005 01:28 PM

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Daynarr said:
I'm really surprised that after all this time you still don't know that (you are way past N00b point http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif).

Indeed. Chalk it up to the "poorly documented" aspect of the feature.

Wish October 14th, 2005 02:19 PM

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I want special combat AI based on unit experience. Perhaps highly experienced or martial artsbased troops (like in tien chi) can have special fighting styles... perhaps a style thats designed to wear out larger enemies and then dig into them. (higher defense but attacks only do stun damage until the enemy is at a certain fatigue point, then normal attacking) or other special attack orders. make stuff like this available to other units only if all units in a row have a certain amount of experience stars.

also certain commanders and the such could have special attack orders designed just for them.

Endoperez October 14th, 2005 06:11 PM

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Wish_For_Blood_Slaves said:
I want special combat AI based on unit experience. Perhaps highly experienced or martial artsbased troops (like in tien chi) can have special fighting styles... perhaps a style thats designed to wear out larger enemies and then dig into them. (higher defense but attacks only do stun damage until the enemy is at a certain fatigue point, then normal attacking) or other special attack orders. make stuff like this available to other units only if all units in a row have a certain amount of experience stars.

also certain commanders and the such could have special attack orders designed just for them.

This might work out quite well... Maybe three stars enabling archers to Fire Rear, four Attack Commanders and fire commanders, and five attack magic users/ fire commanders. All of those are commands that already exist (used in Dom:PPP, by Bogus the Troll and his friends, and possibly by AI). I'm not sure if commanders should get as many new commands, as SCs are already quite powerful. Fire Comanders/Magic Users would make magical bows much more powerful.


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