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geoschmo April 8th, 2003 07:24 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Slynky:
There's a saying that goes (something like):

"I felt sorry for myself because I had no feet. Then I saw a man with no legs."

(I guess I don't know how good I have it http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif )

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I think the saying is "I felt sorry for myself because I have no shoes..." Not having any feet is pretty much just as bad as not having legs. While not having shoes is just a minor discomfort by comparison. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Geoschmo

[ April 08, 2003, 18:24: Message edited by: geoschmo ]

Slynky April 8th, 2003 07:28 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by geoschmo:
But whenever I have suggested a time lmiit in the past the consensus seems to always be against it.

I don't know how to fix it. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I hear ya, geo. And I agree with you a bit. KOTH defaults were taken for my game and the turnaround time is 120 hours (!). I would expect a time of 48 to be suitable (with the stipulation) that a business trip or vacation need could be a legitimate reason to extend the deadline. (of course, that puts you in the position of having to "mess" around with games all the time...and who wants that? Too bad a game can't be created and then "handed off" to one of the players).

The part that gets me is it takes about 1 minute to do a turn in KOTH for the 1st 5-10 turns. Now that I'm up to turn 21, it takes about 6 or 7 minutes (and 20 seconds for upload). Dreico mentioned to me that he was a student and didn't have much time to play. While I applaud anyone going to school, if his complaint is that he has so much schoolwork to do that he can't take 15 minutes to do 2 turns each day, he shouldn't have signed up. It's not like he's traveling (as far as I know) or on vacation. And, lots of players do multiple turns on weekends. Even though there was a big time difference, take a look at my game with Primitive...61 turns in, what, 5 days?

So, I just don't get it.

But back to the dilemma. What turnaround time to you choose? If we make the T/A time long (to attract players) do we really want people in a tournement who will only manage 1 turn every 2 or 3 days? If the concern is to make a tourney (or KOTH) sort of thing, perhaps dividing the people up in to 2 different tourneys is worth exploring...a fast and slow tourney.

(OK, I'll shut up.... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif )

Slynky April 8th, 2003 07:37 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by geoschmo:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Slynky:
There's a saying that goes (something like):

"I felt sorry for myself because I had no feet. Then I saw a man with no legs."

(I guess I don't know how good I have it http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif )

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I think the saying is "I felt sorry for myself because I have no shoes..." Not having any feet is pretty much just as bad as not having legs. While not having shoes is just a minor discomfort by comparison. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Geoschmo
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yeah, that's it...having no shoes till I saw a man with no feet (to put shoes on). Tks, geo!

primitive April 8th, 2003 08:21 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by geoschmo:
Chocolatefro and Dreiko are on my list. I don't understand why they joined the league if they weren't going to play turns in a consistant manner. But whenever I have suggested a time lmiit in the past the consensus seems to always be against it.

I don't know how to fix it. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Add EMPerror to your list also. He has been AWOL since April 1, and do not answer e-mails.

Current status of Primitive VS EMPerror game: Turn 28, EMPerror controls 2 1/2 systems and are blocked in (he had an extremly lousy starting position). Primitives valiant forces are currently laying mines in his systems and the game can only end one way. With 1 turn every 120 hours, it will take me about 2 months to finish him off.

Slynky April 9th, 2003 01:10 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Slynky:
Slynky -vs- Dreico (21 days, 21 turns)

Still no sign of Dreiko. Funny, my game with Primitive placed me right beside him. Now, I can't even FIND my opponent, or very many good planets. Somehow, managing to stay in 1st for several turns now, though.

(yeah, I know...yawn).

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Update: (23 days, 21 turns)

Yep, you guessed it, slowest game in KOTH history. No turns have been submitted by Dreico since my Last (boring) update.

YAWN.......

Slynky April 9th, 2003 03:50 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
(just seeing who will get/take the "666" thread... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Pablo April 9th, 2003 08:06 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Slynky,
Me and Dreiko are in one 2003 PBW Open Tournament game and he seems to play at least 1 turn per day. In your KOTH game he's probably trying to p**s you off and loose your guard http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

geoschmo April 9th, 2003 02:03 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Actually, looking at the history, Drieko's not been doing too badly. He manages to average a turn a day by visiting the site every other day and playing consecutive turns. Now if we could just get him to play at least once every day you guys could average two a day. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Geoschmo

Slynky April 9th, 2003 04:52 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by geoschmo:
Actually, looking at the history, Drieko's not been doing too badly. He manages to average a turn a day by visiting the site every other day and playing consecutive turns. Now if we could just get him to play at least once every day you guys could average two a day. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Geoschmo

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well, as I said earlier (kind of), until I become the worst off, I don't think I'll complain anymore. I'll just have to endure it.

(and if KOTH is still going when my game gets done, I'll request someone who plays a bit more frequently and cross my fingers)

Slynky April 9th, 2003 04:55 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Pablo:
Slynky,
Me and Dreiko are in one 2003 PBW Open Tournament game and he seems to play at least 1 turn per day. In your KOTH game he's probably trying to p**s you off and loose your guard http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Actually, he's more likely to get me off my guard by submitting fast turns. As it is now, I've not much to do but tweak the s--t out of every turn in order to get my "fix". http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Which brings to mind the Tourney now running. Round 2 can't begin till round 1 finishes completely. So, the whole thing is moving as fast as the slowest game. One game was near turn 60 and, I think, 2 others were in the teens. They guys in the game at 60 turns are going to have more than a month's wait (if not 2 or 3 months) till all round 1 games are done.


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