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Guess what, the standard "KOTH is updated" message.

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As heralded in the days of yore, KOTH has been updated.

(How difficult it is to create ever-changing messages stating that "KOTH has been updated")

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I surrender to VadimBey. Please move me to the bottom again and him up.
Good Game

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The Update!

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Rex Torres has surrendered to Belisarius. Long live to the King! KOTH has been updated.

This message was brought to you by Richard Neville and associates.

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Congratulations to the new king! I believe this is the first time (Grand) Master B has tested the throne out for comfort. May he find it comfortable (but not TOO confortable) http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif.

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http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif Thanks my friend! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Really wanted to take the throne and then I'm really happy... but honestly, don't expect to keep the crown for long!
Yes, here does exist many great players, and think the fight for the crown is always a very risky game... because a mistake against a good player can be deadly.
Anyway, you can bet I'll offer a good challenge! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

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Now that I feel like Di Caprio in the Titanic ("I'm the King of the world!"), feel myself free to post this song from Elton John/Bernie Taupin:

No man's a jester playing Shakespeare
Round your throne room floor
While the juggler's act is danced upon
The crown that you once wore

And sooner or later
Everybody's kingdom must end
And I'm so afraid your courtiers
Cannot be called best friends

Caesar's had your troubles
Widows had to cry
While mercenaries in cloisters sing
And the king must die

Some men are better staying sailors
Take my word and go
But tell the ostler that his name was
The very first they chose

And if my hands are stained forever
And the altar should refuse me
Would you let me in, would you let me in, would you let me in
Should I cry sanctuary

No man's a jester playing Shakespeare
Round your throne room floor
While the juggler's act is danced upon
The crown that you once wore

The king is dead, the king is dead
The king is dead, the king is dead
Long live the king

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Enjoy the good life while it lasts: soon, you will be running for your life. Many a rival is out to get you... and succeed we shall!

Yes, I should be studying instead of posting silly messages... especially that Latin American literature exam. You wouldn't happen to be anywhere near France this Saturday MB? Should be a breeze for you. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

On another note, all is very quiet in my game with Joachim. We are past turn 50, and there has been no real fighting as of yet. I have the bigger share of the galaxy, and I have been leading in scores for quite a few turns, but nothing surprising here: my score is almost as inflated as my ego.

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hehehe, don't worry I know that.
Just remember what happend to Leo... and after all I'm sure that the KING MUST DIE!

Yea... think would be cool to be there...
My favorite Latin American writer is Jorge Luis Borges. Also I like Julio Cortázar, García Márquez and Horacio Quiroga. But by far my favorite is Borges.

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif Can bet it's a very interesting game... and if you got most part of the galaxy... I know what kind of damage you can do! (don't know why I have a "Deja vu" feeling http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/mad.gif)

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The extracts we were given were more on northern Latin American literature though: namely Guatemala, Venezuela and Cuba, with the exam being on Guillén.

KOTH has been updated. The main feature of the update is Nodachi's first win, bumping him up in the rankings. Watch out for him: a single win may not be enough for his appetite. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

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Ahem...you may wish to revisit that update Alneyan. Rambie is shown as being on the hill twice on separate levels, and Nodachi is nowhere to be seen! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

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Ubiquity is the key to a better future, Renegade.

KOTH has been fixed. For the last two updates, I have mixed up the winner and the loser... more specifically, I considered the loser to be also the winner. Don't ask.

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So much for my cloaking device! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

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With great skill (/cough.. Luck!) I have defeated Xaralie and crawl one step up this steep hill.

Very fun game, we had the good fortune to find ourselves both online at the same time on two separate occasions and cranked out 10+ turns each time.

Meeting on turn 11 was quite a surprise for both of us let me tell ya!

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I feel a great disturbance in the updates.

Stop smirking, and try to come up with fifty different posts to the effect of "KOTH has been updated". I'm waiting. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

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1. KOTH has been updated!
2. KOTH has been updated, again! (ok, that one's lame!)
3. KOTH rankings have changed.
4. Positions on the hill have changed.
5. Some have climbed, others have fallen.
6. Someone is a step closer to the king, someone else has hit bottom.
7. Some are the windshield, some are the bug!
8. What goes up must come down.
9. Notice the updates you will.
10. Nodachi lost again!!!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Anybody else?

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LMAO, Nodachi! #10...LOL...what a sense of humor! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

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K.O.T.H. update # 289
K.O.T.H. update # 290...

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Yeah, that's what I was thinking but it seemed a bit mechanical and obvious. If Alneyan had wanted to settle for that (grin), he would have been using it LONG before. Secretly, I think he prefers the stimulation for his brain http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif.

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I like the sound of some of your proposals Nodachi. I hope my next update will be something like: "Joachim has fallen off the Hill, and is now reaching terminal velocity", or some such.

And speaking of which, any update on the Hill? Here, we have had our first genuine skirmish (on turn 60), and I actually won. Before that, one of his scouts glassed a couple of my planets, but nothing serious.

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Bogs just surrendered to me please move me up the ladder a level

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KOTH has been swiftly updated, making the use of deadly force unnecessary. By the way, if you find broken links on the main page, please let me know: I have noticed I copy-pasted a link only working for the game owner in one case.

Belisarius and Parabolize, how is it going up there? I would like to know how I should retrofit my Kingslaying scheme; at first, it was intended for Asmala, then for RexTorres, so a further retrofit will be in good order. The fight still goes on between Joachim and myself, though the game should be over in the next ten turns or so. I hope so, as otherwise it would mean something very bad happened to me.

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MB is slowly eating me. Bit by bit his low tech light carriers are consuming my east and west empire. The center was dominated by me at last contact.

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Turn 63. Time to roll over and die. Good game.

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You played a very good game and your trained fleet was close to keep you more time in bussiness... but I had more systems than you and think it did the difference.

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I will assume you are going back to the bottom of the Hill Parabolize.

Dear MB, king for a day, you should clutch to your throne, as I am out to get YOU! Kidding aside, we should agree on the settings now, as my game with Joachim could be over in a few turns; if he does manage to come back, I will let you know so that you can discuss settings with him instead. Those Aussies sure are hard to kill. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

My own preferences would be a bigger than average map (where big is defined by the game owner, though I am of course not asking for 255 systems), with set starting locations, no intelligence, and I would rather remove the Crystalline and the Religious trait; I am a true scion of Primitive after all.

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Considering you defeated me before, think I should! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/mad.gif

Hum, I don't like the idea to speak about a dead man when still is breathing and can command fleets!
Anyway, because my preferred setting is only one... then, think it would work for Joachim too!

Your preferences are Ok with me.
My only request is to play with the Geo's Balance Mod: as King, don't like to lose my trhone just because had a bad luck in the map!

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Hmmm, a little presumptious of Alenyan.

Still, he should have just claimed victory on turn 1 after he saw the map and our respective positions, as I had very little chance.

I suspect I surprised him slightly but it is still as good as over. I will check the turn tonight then most likely concede.

Can onerefuse to play KOTH if your opponent does not want to play balance mod and equi-distant start points?

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Technically, if players can't agree, then there is a KOTH standard to apply. That standard start was made before the Balance mod came along and before there was time to ascertain just how lopsided the game can be about placing 2 opponents in a game. When players approach the top of the hill, their talent and skill become more equal to each opponent they face. It then seems a bit odd (in an effort to see who is good enough to be king) to let the randomness of a game-generated map have such a big part in being the deciding factor.

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I will admit I am not much of a gond of the balanced systems, especially because they remove all other systems (I am fine with balanced planets, however). I particularly like one map I played with Primitive, where we both had plenty of planets of our atmosphere type (Oxygen for me, None for him), though it may be too big for a quick resolution on the Hill. So, if you like Balanced Systems, I will go with it. So long as you do your best to kill me, I will be happy. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif (I have been hoping to be defeated for a few games, but it looks like it won't work)

Joachim: I am readying other fleets to do a bit of mayhem, but if you can get SM up and running soon, you still have a decent shot at victory, or you could do something on this turn. The other wormholes leading to my territories will be shut down soon, letting the vessels attack you as they will.

I believe you lacked two things in your end of the map: methane planets and asteroids. There was a surprisingly low number of methane planets, even outside of rocky planets, while I had a good deal of oxy planets a bit everywhere (especially away from home). Asteroids made for the bulk of my economy with remote-mining (mainly before I got my Gas colonies up and running), while you had no such opportunity, and I think that was a virtual death warrant. Even on turn 75, remote-mining still covers all my construction expenses, and I had room for more, bigger miners.

I think you lagged in colonial expansion, though there wasn't much to colonise to begin with, and in plain luck to get in the direction of those choke-point systems first (no Ancient trait means you had to fly blind, though your colony ships were faster than mine). If memory serves, you settled several planets near or in your homesystem first, while I spread out very quickly, and that could have made the difference in getting secured borders.

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All over, I quit. And that does summarise the map nicely.

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Alneyan, I went ahead and deleted the game and setup a new king match for Master Belisarius and yourself.

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I understand your concerns about the balanced systems, but think your own words about the map of your game with Joaquim, support my view!
I don't want to win just because had better luck than you, with my part of the galaxy... and don't want to lose for the same reason.

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I wouldn't complain if my end of the map was poorer (it was in our first game, but I ended up with more systems, so it all evened out); anything that gives you an edge is fine with me. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif Just send me back to the bottom of the Hill.

So, no intel, no religious, no Crystalline, Balanced mods, manual starting points, and we are set? I will upload my Empire right now, though I will not be playing turns this evening (namely because I will head to bed soon).

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Interesting! Because always believed that in that game, you had a better starting map than me! hehehe
Come on old friend! I prefer to play in smallest maps and to play without bans, and said nothing about your preferences!! (until now! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/evil.gif).

But also, you wanted a biggest map than the average, right?
I'll upload my file tomorrow.

See you in battle!

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Well, big only means "something with more than one system". http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif More specifically, a game where there is breathing room, and more than one way to reach the other side. I'm sure Geo will find something appropriate.

The ban on the Crystalline trait is really a way for me to avoid being dastardly (again): that component is amazingly powerful, especially if the target does not quite know how it works. If you are not at all ready for it, it can be a killing blow in itself: invulnerable vessels are much worse than vessels making every single hit count. Primitive initiated me to the mysteries of the Crystal Amour, and that thing sure is deadly... just ask Asmala in Pairs. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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Vadim Bey has defeated Renegade 13. You can send me down the hill, all the way down to the bottom if you'd like, and advance Vadim Bey another level. Damn I hate light carriers!

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My Earl has updated KOTH; I am busy fighting at Hastings myself.

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I, acting in the name of the King, hereby authorise the updating of KOTH. Let the gallant knights joust for our pleasure!

On a more serious note: I will be away from June 25 to July 10, so Geo will be creating games during this timeframe (if needed). The site will not be updated while I am away.

During my leave, Geo has full authority over all the subjects of the realm, and has my leave to kill, damage, or otherwise maim all evildoers.

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OK, cant help myself, please put me back on the hill....

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KOTH has been duly updated.

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Parabolize,
I would really prefer geo balance mod. Other than that I am easy.

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*Balanced System Mod map
*manual placement
*good home world
*no intelligence
*koth defaults for the rest

Sound Good?

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Sounds most fine.

Good Luck, allthough I hope skill decides it not luck! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

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Cool. Empire uploaded. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/cool.gif

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Back online and kicking. Now all I need is to read through my mail and sort the KOTH problems; expect an update tonight, or tomorrow at the latest.

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Alneyan left the game at the turn 37.

I was ahead in the numbers and think with the better possibilities to win... but the game was not yet decided, for the time he wanted to leave.

Alneyan doesn't wanted to continue playing SE4 games (he lost the motivation).

Now, my next game will be against Slynky... and again expect to play a hard game.

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Alneyan, do you want someone else to take care of the KOTH site?

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KOTH has been updated *and* uploaded (something I love to forget). I really should have dropped the ball (in my own KOTH playing) earlier though...

Fyron: I am still administrating KOTH, so it will be fine (if I stop forgetting to run the upload script).