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PvK September 5th, 2004 02:14 PM

Manai shipset crashes my computer!
 
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Imperator Fyron said:
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Lite contains all of the data and AI updates. Race Pack contains new ship set images added since the 0.14.00 Version. So far, it only contains the Manai ship set. If you already have this ship set installed, you do not need to get the Race Pack.
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Does anyone know why the Manai shipset (as found on PBW) might crash my computer as soon as SE4 tries to load a game where one of the players is using it? We're using Proportions Mod 3.0.1 in that game.

To try to fix it, I checked the image sizes and re-saved them all using a fairly old Version of MS Paint, but it still crashes my computer. Anyone have any ideas?

Raging Deadstar September 5th, 2004 02:40 PM

Re: New Paradigm?
 
Ahh, you are using those ship names and stuff i gave you http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif Was wondering if you were going to

Fyron September 5th, 2004 02:55 PM

Re: Manai shipset crashes my computer!
 
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PvK said:

Does anyone know why the Manai shipset (as found on PBW) might crash my computer as soon as SE4 tries to load a game where one of the players is using it? We're using Proportions Mod 3.0.1 in that game.

To try to fix it, I checked the image sizes and re-saved them all using a fairly old Version of MS Paint, but it still crashes my computer. Anyone have any ideas?

MS Paint on windows XP (and sometimes 2000) saves bitmaps with a different, non-standard header than most programs save them with (including MS Paint from older Versions of Windows). Most of the time this isn't an issue, and programs are able to ignore them. SE4, however, has some strange image reading code and crashes when it encounters such file headers on Windows 98... Loading SE4 with such images on Windows 2000 or XP works fine though... Try using www.irfanview.com to run a batch conVersion of all images in the Manai folder from bitmaps to bitmaps. This will give them standard bitmap file headers, allowing SE4 to not crash.

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Well you could, but it's a lot of work - you'd probably need to limit their tech tree to accomplish it, and take away their ability to make efficient use of planets as non-disposable resource generators.

Remote mining does not decrease values in Adamant, so it is not possible. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif Also, the idea of a paradigm is that pretty much every single item they have is unique to that paradigm. It is a lot of work implementing any paradigm.

PvK September 5th, 2004 03:16 PM

Re: Manai shipset crashes my computer!
 
Thanks Fyron! I figured it was something like that ... (Where does M$ want me to have problems with their older products today?) ... I'll give that a try.

PvK

Fyron September 5th, 2004 03:37 PM

Re: Manai shipset crashes my computer!
 
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Where does M$ want me to have problems with their older products today?

What do you mean, "today?" Their biggest competition is older Versions of Windows, you know...

PvK September 5th, 2004 06:32 PM

Re: Manai shipset crashes my computer!
 
I mean, Microsoft's annoying Win95-era slogan, "where do you want to go today?", which has ever since suggested itself for ironic parody. It's generally more a case of "what does using Microsoft stuff force you to deal with today?" Hey look, they've innovated some unneeded changes to the BMP format which breaks Space Empires IV. As you say, Win98 is now their main competitor for XP (the emoticon OS), and as with past competitors, pointless changes and incompatibilities lead the way in generating otherwise-absent reasons to pay them anew for their latest Version of their OS. Or, just to resent it, and to renew one's vow to abstain, as it is doing in this case with me.

PvK

PvK September 15th, 2004 03:29 AM

Re: Manai shipset crashes my computer!
 
I have been SO busy lately! I only now finally managed to get back to this issue. Turns out you were spot on, Fyron. Infranview batch re-save cleared up the problem. I updated the ship set on PBW with an identical Version except with images that do not crash Win98.

Thanks!

PvK

Fyron October 2nd, 2004 04:21 AM

Adamant Site Features List
 
http://adamant.spaceempires.net/features.php

Working on a mod features page... What do you think (other than the fact that nearly everything is in unsorted features and all jumbled up... those issues will be fixed)? Did I miss anything? Something need more clarifying? Something a bad idea to put in the list? Input is required!

Oh, and I especially like the shiney green arrows... ok going to sleep now...

Atrocities October 2nd, 2004 04:40 AM

Re: Adamant Site Features List
 
Nice list. Recall that I too have given it rave reviews.

Fyron October 3rd, 2004 02:17 PM

Re: Adamant Site Features List
 
Quote:

Imperator Fyron said:
http://adamant.spaceempires.net/features.php

Working on a mod features page... What do you think (other than the fact that nearly everything is in unsorted features and all jumbled up... those issues will be fixed)? Did I miss anything? Something need more clarifying? Something a bad idea to put in the list? Input is required!

Oh, and I especially like the shiney green arrows... ok going to sleep now...

Nobody has even one suggestion? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/Sick.gif


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