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Jack Simth April 23rd, 2004 09:38 PM

Re: Chernobyl
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Ragnarok:
You are right, you can. But to decode this it should only take a total of 5 minutes or less. Because you do not have to manually decode the message.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Five minutes ... if you type well, already know the file format, et cetera.
Quote:

Originally posted by Ragnarok:

Here is some more for you.
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">code:</font><hr /><pre style="font-size:x-small; font-family: monospace;">0100110101100001011011100010110000
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1011100110010100100000011101110110000101
1011100111010001110011001000000111010001
1011110010000001100100011001010110001101
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1010000110100101110011001000000110001101
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1000000110100001100001011101100110010100
1000000110100001100101011100100110010100
1111110010000001001101011000010111100101
1000100110010100100000010010010010000001
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1101000111001001111001001000000110000101
1011100110111101110100011010000110010101
1100100010000001100011011011110110010001
1001010010000001110100011011110010000001
1100110110010101100101001000000110100101
1001100010000001110100011010000110000101
1101000010000001110111011011110111001001
1010110111001100101110001000000100100101
1001100010000001111001011011110111010100
1000000111011101100001011011100111010000
1000000110110101100101001000000111010001
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1001000010000001110100011010000110100101
1100110010111000100000010000100111010101
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1001010110000101100100001000000111010001
1010000110100101110011001000000110110101
1001010111001101110011011000010110011101
1001010010000001110100011010000110010101
1011100010000001111001011011110111010100
1000000110111101100010011101100110100101
1011110111010101110011011011000111100100
1000000110101101101110011011110111011100
1000000110100001101111011101110010000001
0010010010000001100100011010010110010000
1000000110100101110100001000000110000101
1011100110010000100000011010000110000101
1101100110010100100000011001100110100101
1001110111010101110010011001010110010000
1000000110111101110101011101000010000001
1010000110111101110111001000000111010001
1011110010000001100011011011110110111001
1101100110010101110010011101000010000001
1101000110100001100101001000000110001101
101111011001000110010100101110</pre><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Maybe you will like this more:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">code:</font><hr /><pre style="font-size:x-small; font-family: monospace;">%4D%61%6E%2C%20%6E%6F%20%6F%6E%65%
20%77%61%6E%74%73%20%74%6F%20%64%65%63%6
F%64%65%20%74%68%69%73%20%63%6F%64%65%20
%49%20%68%61%76%65%20%68%65%72%65%3F%20%
4D%61%79%62%65%20%49%20%77%69%6C%6C%20%7
4%72%79%20%61%6E%6F%74%68%65%72%20%63%6F
%64%65%20%74%6F%20%73%65%65%20%69%66%20%
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6%20%79%6F%75%20%77%61%6E%74%20%6D%65%20
%74%6F%20%49%20%63%61%6E%20%74%65%6C%6C%
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4%20%74%68%69%73%2E%20%42%75%74%20%69%66
%20%79%6F%75%20%72%65%61%64%20%74%68%69%
73%20%6D%65%73%73%61%67%65%20%74%68%65%6
E%20%79%6F%75%20%6F%62%76%69%6F%75%73%6C
%79%20%6B%6E%6F%77%20%68%6F%77%20%49%20%
64%69%64%20%69%74%20%61%6E%64%20%68%61%7
6%65%20%66%69%67%75%72%65%64%20%6F%75%74
%20%68%6F%77%20%74%6F%20%63%6F%6E%76%65%
72%74%20%74%68%65%20%63%6F%64%65%2E%00</pre><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I agreed with Fyron (WOW!) it probably isn't worth your time if you do it the hard way. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Simple once you have the idea, but definately not worth your time. And no thanks, I don't really want you reading it to me.

Here's one for you, Ragnarok:
00000000000011111111000000000
00000000000011100000000111000
00000000000001100000000000000
11000000000000010000000000000
00000100000000000100000000000
00000000010000000001000000000
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00000000000000000100000100000
00000000000001000000010000100
00100000000000010100000010001
00001010000000000100010000001
00100000100000000000100010000
00100100000000000000000100010
00000101000000000000000001000
00100000011000000000000011001
00001111100011000000000000100
10100010000010011000000000000
10010100100000001011000000000
00001100100100000001011000000
00000000000100100000001011000
00000000000000100010000010011
00000010000000000100001111100
01010000101000000000100000100
00010010000010000000000010001
00000010010000000000000000010
00100000010001000000000000000
01000100000100001000000000000
00000101000000100000100000000
00000000010000001000000010000
00000000000000000010000000010
00000000000000000001000000000
00100000000000000000010000000
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00000000000111000000001110000
00000000000000000111111110000
00000000

[ April 23, 2004, 20:58: Message edited by: Jack Simth ]

Puke April 23rd, 2004 09:38 PM

Re: Chernobyl
 
if you want a hard cypher to solve, try this:

http://www.bokler.com/pix/eapoe_crypto_ltr.jpg

Sure, its already been done - but it took 150 years!

Ragnarok April 23rd, 2004 09:50 PM

Re: Chernobyl
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Jack Simth:
Simple once you have the idea, but definately not worth your time. And no thanks, I don't really want you reading it to me.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Interesting that you say this, Jack. Because no where in my Messages did I say anything about reading it to anyone. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

So tell me, how did you come to the conclusion that I was going to read it to someone?

Slick April 23rd, 2004 09:56 PM

Re: Chernobyl
 
Guys, find another thread already...

Jack Simth April 23rd, 2004 09:59 PM

Re: Chernobyl
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Ragnarok:
Interesting that you say this, Jack. Because no where in my Messages did I say anything about reading it to anyone. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

So tell me, how did you come to the conclusion that I was going to read it to someone?

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">sorry - I picked that up from the "explain it" segment

Slick April 23rd, 2004 10:00 PM

Re: Chernobyl
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Slick:
Guys, find another thread already...
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">

PvK April 23rd, 2004 10:09 PM

Re: Chernobyl
 
Maybe Timstone should rename the thread "hijacked thread" and move the Chernobyl content to a new thread.

PvK

Ragnarok April 23rd, 2004 10:18 PM

Re: Chernobyl
 
First of all my apologies for hijacking the thread. Won't happen again. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Quote:

Originally posted by Atrocities:
Thank you for posting the link to this site. Thank you very much. I wonder why no one has done a documentary on what this lady has done. THAT would make a fine evening of television to be sure.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Back on topic...The reason no documentary has been made is probably for either lack of information regarding her, or people that would be responsible for a documentary do not know of this story. Or perhaps they just plainly do not want to do one. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

geoschmo April 24th, 2004 01:22 AM

Re: Chernobyl
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by primitive:
Why latin ? Wouldn't Mandarin be better, after all "he" could have spent 10 years in catholic school.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Not bloody likely. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Fyron spending his formative years around nuns and little girls in short plaid skirts.... You know that would explain a lot. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Timstone April 24th, 2004 07:27 PM

Re: Chernobyl
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Slick:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by Timstone:
All who goof around with translation fever: "Thread jackers!!" http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by Raging Deadstar:
Very thought Provoking site Timstone, thanks for sharing. The photos seems like they're from some sort of movie, but you see how they were taken (They aren't done by professional Photographers, they look like photos you and I would take, and that adds some integrity to it) Definitely a prominent warning we may be messing with things we're not ready for yet... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Believe me good RD, we're ready for more fusion and fission. The only thing that was an big error in Chernobyl was that the military was in control of the powerplant.
On order of the military the people of the powerplant shut off all the 50 different failsaves. This causes the reactor to produce more energy (thus more electrical output). The darkside of this was the gigantic risc of a meltdown. This meltdown doesn't always have to lead to a mushroom, this was averted by a clever maintenance worker who decided to drop the carbon rods into the reactor. Thus preventing a thermal overload.
The coolant of the reactor was often given the blame of the overload (because the West used water to cool things down and the Russians use a more efficient carbon based liquid (a little bit more dangerous than water, but far more efficient)), but this is not true. It was a plain and simple economic decision which created this accident. Stupid military guys. If those failsaves were in place the plant didn't produce as much output, but at least it would have still been in operation.
"No, we don't fail. So we don't need those pesky failsaves. We are the invincible Red Army." Tss... suckers.

Edit: Typo's, typo's, typo's...
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">No offense, but you should check your sources. None of this is true.

Here's a link to some facts.

http://www.world-nuclear.org/info/chernobyl/inf07.htm

Slick.
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Oh dear, seems there is a big mystery going on here...
*Twilight Zone theme tune playing in the background.*

Okay, please let me say that this is not something I made up or something. I'm not the only smart person around here. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif
I'm a mechanical enigneer and thus not a complete stranger to this field of science. I happen to work for a company which designs, produces, installs and maintains rather large industrial pumps, filter installations and generators. My hobby's also include an interest in anything that has to do with fission and fusion. I've read a few (not many) explanations about the Chernobyl accident and a few of them poke of the switching off of the failsaves and the other few spoke of a faulty reactor design. They contradict. Then I saw a nice documentary on Discovery (around 1996 I think (centenial maybe)). That documentary spoke of the failsaves and the alleged coolant. Even when I went to school to study for mechanical enigneer I was taught a few contradictory causes, even the books we had to buy for those classes weren't in agreement. So I ended up with three Versions.
1) Faulty reactor design.
2) Wrong coolant and switching off failsaves.
3) Swithching off failsaves.
Because most of the reports spoke of the failsaves and the military involvement, I thought that this was the cause of the accident.Back in those days I didn't have internet, so there was no way for me to check.

When I received this link I didn't check the internet because I thought I knew the cause.
It wasn't me, it was the one-armed man!


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